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Mad Mike said:
Sure there are costs associated with running a website, a site like this should cost <$250/year in hosting costs. Software licences for web forums cost about $200 every 5 years.

I dont see problem with ads that are displayed as ads. Once you start injecting and intercepting content, a sites integrity becomes challenged.

For example, did this link get automatically inserted or did I put it there?
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Mad Mike said:
That's a bandaid. The real issue here is one of community vs commerce. I'm all for a community site tossing up a few sponsor ads to pay the bills -- community forums cost 20-30/month in hosting fees + a few hours a week to administer.

Once you start monetizing user content, you cross the like from community to commerce. That's OK, but there's also a risks once a site owner heads down that track.
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LOL... I see you have have never run or worked with a large user base forum. A large amount of users on at the same time uses too much processor resources so you cant use a shared hosting server. A dedicated server is a lot more than $20-30 a month.
 
Gnu said:
LOL... I see you have have never run or worked with a large user base forum. A large amount of users on at the same time uses too much processor resources so you cant use a shared hosting server. A dedicated server is a lot more than $20-30 a month.
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Yep.

Someone who's never done it before doesn't really understand it.

A forum is more processor and bandwidth intensive than many people really understand, particularly a big one. GTAM given it's very nature isn't a bohemoth, it's not tiny either. The biggest problem is almost certainly it's database size, something that grows every...single...day. Cheap shared hosting servers don't allow you to have massive SQL databases.

I just did a reverse DNS lookup on the server GTAM is running on and there's only one other tiny website (for a little trucking company I've never heard of, appears to be a very small outfit) running on the same server. Perhaps a friend of Pauls or something...but in short, for all intents and purposes, GTAM basically has it's own private server.

For comparison, I just looked at one of my own (seldom used anymore) domains that I pushed onto a common/cheap shared server just to placehold it...and there's no less than 31 other websites sharing the same server right now.

I just checked out the server farm that hosts GTAM and it would be my educated guess that the plan required to run GTAM is costing a minimum of $200/month.and depending on it's peak processor demands, perhaps north of $300/month.

That's the realities. Not a $20/month shared server. If that's what GTAM ran on, trust me, you all would have bigger complaints than some links being inserted in your posts.
 
Definition: " A computer virus is a type of computer program that, when executed, replicates itself by modifying other computer programs and inserting its own code."

Viglink = computer virus.

:unsure: Maybe they will remove virus if we ask nicely!

Dear management; please give serious consideration to removing the virus.
signed: just another non-paying customer
 
Gnu said:
LOL... I see you have have never run or worked with a large user base forum. A large amount of users on at the same time uses too much processor resources so you cant use a shared hosting server. A dedicated server is a lot more than $20-30 a month.
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As a matter of fact I have. I spent a few years designing high performance web servers, a forum this size runs a MYSQL database with this forum would run happily on a shared server at any decent webhost.
PrivatePilot said:
Yep.

Someone who's never done it before doesn't really understand it.

A forum is more processor and bandwidth intensive than many people really understand, particularly a big one. GTAM given it's very nature isn't a bohemoth, it's not tiny either. The biggest problem is almost certainly it's database size, something that grows every...single...day. Cheap shared hosting servers don't allow you to have massive SQL databases.

I just did a reverse DNS lookup on the server GTAM is running on and there's only one other tiny website (for a little trucking company I've never heard of, appears to be a very small outfit) running on the same server. Perhaps a friend of Pauls or something...but in short, for all intents and purposes, GTAM basically has it's own private server.

For comparison, I just looked at one of my own (seldom used anymore) domains that I pushed onto a common/cheap shared server just to placehold it...and there's no less than 31 other websites sharing the same server right now.

I just checked out the server farm that hosts GTAM and it would be my educated guess that the plan required to run GTAM is costing a minimum of $200/month.and depending on it's peak processor demands, perhaps north of $300/month.

That's the realities. Not a $20/month shared server. If that's what GTAM ran on, trust me, you all would have bigger complaints than some links being inserted in your posts.
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Disagree. I manage a few e-commerce servers with very large user bases -- one serves 60,000 registered user, serves on average 36 pages to more than 1000 unique users each day. It runs Magento, not a lightweight when it comes to processing power., it serves 26gb of data per day off a shared server that costs $25/mo. XENPRO is light on servers, sure the databases continually grow, but thee indexing is simple forums are stupidly simple -- there are no complex SQL operation to bog down the server and very few graphics to eat bandwidth and disk space.

I manage a few corporate intranets that run higher loads on Joomla. They run on Hostgator Baby Croc accounts.

This site might be on an expensive hosting plan -- it need not be. You could run sub-second performance on a shared server for $25/month.
 
As someone who’s been forced to move servers on a moments notice because a host found one of my forums in violation of their TOS under the “shall not cause what we determine to be excessive server load” clause and had our site kicked offline instantly by a sysadmin who .htaccess blocked us, I have to disagree.

Face it, shared hosting plans have so may CYA/grey area blanket clauses that they can throw up to anyone who they’d rather not host anymore (if your site hosted on a shared server is actually busy or experiences a surge) that it’s NOT a reliable solution for any serious outfit.

All it takes is for someone to post a link to a thread or your forum on a much bigger forum (*cough*, Reddit) attracting a sudden insurgence of traffic (to use but one example) to cause havoc on a cheap shared server....& next thing you know you’re kicked offline right when you least want.

Share some links to some forums you know of as big or bigger than GTAM running on a shared server, and one that actually has SQL size limits big enough to hold the years and years of post history here.
 
Mad Mike said:
Disagree. I manage a few e-commerce servers with very large user bases -- one serves 60,000 registered user, serves on average 36 pages to more than 1000 unique users each day. It runs Magento, not a lightweight when it comes to processing power., it serves 26gb of data per day off a shared server that costs $25/mo. XENPRO is light on servers, sure the databases continually grow, but thee indexing is simple forums are stupidly simple -- there are no complex SQL operation to bog down the server and very few graphics to eat bandwidth and disk space.

This site might be on an expensive hosting plan -- it need not be. You could run sub-second performance on a shared server for $25/month.
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Its not the forum software or the database that is the issue, it is the demands of PHP on the RAM and CPU with multiple users on at the same time. So if you're saying that you run Magento's PHP demands on a shared hosting server AND has the same amount of active users on it at the same time as this forum, then I call bull$hit.
 
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