Very sad for the dog but really blaming the TTC for it's death?

[JZ67]

http://www.torontosun.com/2015/12/17/dog-owner-wants-answers-from-ttc-after-track-tragedy

I feel awful for the dog but why should the TTC take accountability for this? The owner of the dog asks how it was possible that the dog got into an area that was supposed to be secure? Kind of like asking how long is a piece of string. Perhaps the dog jumped the fence. Not unusual for it's breed to scale a pretty high fence.

The way this story reads makes it look like another liberal looking to blame someone else for their mistake.

 

[Chaos]

This is 100% on the owner. How did the dog get loose in the first place?

 

[nfq]

This is 100% on the owner. How did the dog get loose in the first place?

There are no bad dogs, just bad/stupid owners. This was 100% preventable. If you don't have control over your dog, why let them run loose in a leash free park?

Then looking for a payday from the TTC? sorry, not going to happen.

 

[PLau]

This is 100% on the owner. How did the dog get loose in the first place?

"Spooked by the wind while off leash in a park"

Another person trying to put out their sad/horrific story in the media hoping people will pity her and take her side to sue...

It is sad, but the owner should take her responsibility as an owner admit that it's her own fault.

If the dog ran across the street (which likely did at some point) and got hit by a car, would she then blame the driver?

 

[meme]

Of course.

 

[nobbie48]

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If the dog ran across the street (which likely did at some point) and got hit by a car, would she then blame the driver?

Definitely would be drivers fault. The driver should swerve into oncoming traffic killing himself, his family and the family in the oncoming car to save a dog not under the owner's control.

Sarcasm font if not obvious.

As for the owner.......give your head a shake. YOU screwed up. YOU have to explain to your family that it was YOUR INABILITY to train your dog that led to its demise.

If a subway driver saw the dog and hammered the brakes would the dog owner willingly compensate any passengers that got injured by the sudden stop?

 

[raginduck]

I think their issue is that the dog was reported to be running around on tracks first thing and apparently the driver reported hitting the dog hours before it was found.

 

[Baggsy]

My old cottage neighbour, a farmer, used to shoot dogs on sight.
We were always very careful to keep our dogs under control.
My how things have changed.

 

[raginduck]

My old cottage neighbour, a farmer, used to shoot dogs on sight.
We were always very careful to keep our dogs under control.
My how things have changed.

Illegal, even on a farm unless person or animal is in immediate danger.

I wouldn't live next to someone like that... they would move.

 

[Red_Liner740]

When i was working at the airport, if a dog got out of the cage airside, the ASO (airside safety officers) had a shoot on sight rule. Many didnt enforce it obviously and we all tried our hardest to contakn the animal so it didnt run out on the runways, but a few did and were put down.

Thats the worst. Who do you blame then?

 

[matthew]

According to the City of Toronto's website, there are no off leash dog parks around Davisville subway station

 

[LiNK666]

It'll be settled. It's cheaper for ttc to pay them $10k than to pay $30k to lawyers.

 

[crankcall]

This is another Toronto idiot deflecting responsibility. Your dog was illegally? off leash at 5;30am, so in the dark. She got spooked/distracted/smelled something and ran.
Your bonehead lawyer says a video would answer our questions. TTC says we don't run video in the davisville yard, its a yard, there are no tapes. The lawyer says he'll make a formal request. Yeah , OK....
Did the lawyer find her or does she have one on speed dial? Idiot.

 

[Hardwrkr13]

It'll be settled. It's cheaper for ttc to pay them $10k than to pay $30k to lawyers.

Yeppers. And to those that ask whether the owner is stupid, well yes she is, but so is the idiot that spilled coffee on themself and sued because it was hot.

 

[Malks]

100% agree that this incident is in any way the fault of the TTC. By the way, the TTC has a complete legal department on staff, so there is no need to hire / retain a lawyer to defend against this lawsuit. The TTC will always defend against these sort of charges as a way to deter other frivolous lawsuits. When she looses, and I am sure she will, she better hope the TTC does not bring a counter-suit for all costs incurred to replace the subway with buses while they were attempting to catch her runaway dog.

 

[174Racing]

When i was working at the airport, if a dog got out of the cage airside, the ASO (airside safety officers) had a shoot on sight rule. Many didnt enforce it obviously and we all tried our hardest to contakn the animal so it didnt run out on the runways, but a few did and were put down.

Thats the worst. Who do you blame then?

ASOs are definitely not armed. PRP and Wildlife are the armed people at Pearson (along with other law enforcement agencies who are there in smaller numbers).

Neither of those agencies are told to shoot on sight. Actually, when traveling animals get loose there a rather large effort is made to retrieve the animal safely. After all, there is a passenger (AKA customer) who would prefer to receive their pet intact.

Now, wildlife like Coyote, Fox, Groundhog, Gulls etc don't enjoy the same comfort but it is still not "shoot on sight".

Edit: about the "few did and were put down", I've been working on the airfield for 17 years and can't remember a traveling animal getting put down. Lost maybe, died on route or during transfer sure... a loose Golden even jumped off the Briannia Road/T taxiway bridge running away from responders a couple years ago on my shift and as bad of shape it was in even that animal wasn't put down.

 

[Slim Jim]

ASOs are definitely not armed. PRP and Wildlife are the armed people at Pearson (along with other law enforcement agencies who are there in smaller numbers).

Neither of those agencies are told to shoot on sight. Actually, when traveling animals get loose there a rather large effort is made to retrieve the animal safely. After all, there is a passenger (AKA customer) who would prefer to receive their pet intact.

Glad you cleared that up, when I read his post I laughed.

 

[vociferous]

i dont know of any off leash parks at davisville. there is oriole, balliol, and the beltline, but none of those have off-leash areas.
i wouldnt be surprised if she was running him along the beltline, its the only one that goes near the tracks.

There are no bad dogs, just bad/stupid owners

thats such a crock of $#!t. theres are some dogs that are well bred/trained, etc. that are just plain ********.

 

[RetroGrouch]

Dog owner: I demand an explanation and apology. TTC: We're sorry you let your dog off leash and she got stuck under the tracks. Oh, and here's your bill for disrupting the subway system for several hours and inconveniencing thousands of passengers.

 

[crankcall]

ASOs are definitely not armed. PRP and Wildlife are the armed people at Pearson (along with other law enforcement agencies who are there in smaller numbers).

Neither of those agencies are told to shoot on sight. Actually, when traveling animals get loose there a rather large effort is made to retrieve the animal safely. After all, there is a passenger (AKA customer) who would prefer to receive their pet intact.

Now, wildlife like Coyote, Fox, Groundhog, Gulls etc don't enjoy the same comfort but it is still not "shoot on sight".

Edit: about the "few did and were put down", I've been working on the airfield for 17 years and can't remember a traveling animal getting put down. Lost maybe, died on route or during transfer sure... a loose Golden even jumped off the Briannia Road/T taxiway bridge running away from responders a couple years ago on my shift and as bad of shape it was in even that animal wasn't put down.

I have no idea how it works behind the scenes , but our 10yr old lab has more air miles than a lot of executives . If he got out of crate??? and had to be put down.... there would be lots of 'splaining to do.