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URGENT: need a mechanic to inspect a bike this Saturday at Cycle World Superstore!

Corsara

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Hello there,

Just getting ready to buy my first bike.. Anyone knows a mechanic that I can come with me to 4545 Sheppard Ave East, Toronto (Cycle World Superstore) this Saturday morning? I am a new rider, and although I've tried to educate myself as much as I could, I'd rather pay for some expert opinion than feel really sorry for missing apparent problems afterwards.

Please recommend someone! Also, what is a fair rate for such inspection?

Thanks in advance.
 
If you're getting someone to inspect your first bike anyway, buy used from Kijiji and save yourself the hassle of buying from Cycle World.
 
If you're getting someone to inspect your first bike anyway, buy used from Kijiji and save yourself the hassle of buying from Cycle World.

Do you mean I don't need to inspect the bike if I buy form Cycle World, or that Cycle World sell bad bikes, or that they are not nice to deal with?
 
I didn't have a problem with them selling my old bike or buying my wife's bike. They were fairly decent to deal with. If you have no problems with them so far don't worry too much.
 
Yea, I know you really really want the bike, and put a deposit...but if it isn't much, I'd take the punch in the pocket and walk.

*If you do take someone to inspect it with you, and want your deposit back, say your not happy with it from last time you saw it. I'll sue you guys for my deposit lol, I dont know. Probably not going to work.

Step 2 - Take many pictures from all angles, I'd print off that thread where the guy talks about getting the bike he bought with all the things taken off if the guy asks why you are taking pictures of the bike - say for my comfort I am getting what I paid for etc

Good Luck
 
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Call Cantire at McCowan/Sheppard. They have a motorcycle mechanic on a part-time basis. He rides an older black Suzuki. Ask if the guy is available on Saturday. It is not a far walk from the CanTire to the store.

After the last Motorcycle Superstore thread I really would dissuade people from buying from there. They need to be slapped down.
 
Hello there,

Just getting ready to buy my first bike.. Anyone knows a mechanic that I can come with me to 4545 Sheppard Ave East, Toronto (Cycle World Superstore) this Saturday morning? I am a new rider, and although I've tried to educate myself as much as I could, I'd rather pay for some expert opinion than feel really sorry for missing apparent problems afterwards.

Please recommend someone! Also, what is a fair rate for such inspection?

Thanks in advance.

Corsara
Glad to see you decided to join GTAM. This place is a plethora of knowledge on motorcycle shops, dealers, and mechanic's all over Ontario.
Is Cycle World's deposit non refundable? Contact Rosey Toes Motorcycle's ask for Ted Rose 4162412523. I do not know if he is willing to come Saturday morning, because he has a shop to run. He sometime's will offer a mobile safety service, if you talk dirty to him on the phone (j/k about the phone sex). Explain to him you want a detailed inspection, not just safety certification. Explain to him that you are a new rider and are very apprehensive about purchasing from Cycle World.

GTAM
If you want a little background on this thread, so you can fully advise our new friend over here; please check the link below.
http://www.fz6-forum.com/forum/main...ike-just-made-deposit-good-pics-included.html
 
Corsara
Glad to see you decided to join GTAM. This place is a plethora of knowledge on motorcycle shops, dealers, and mechanic's all over Ontario.
Is Cycle World's deposit non refundable? Contact Rosey Toes Motorcycle's ask for Ted Rose 4162412523. I do not know if he is willing to come Saturday morning, because he has a shop to run. He sometime's will offer a mobile safety service, if you talk dirty to him on the phone (j/k about the phone sex). Explain to him you want a detailed inspection, not just safety certification. Explain to him that you are a new rider and are very apprehensive about purchasing from Cycle World.

GTAM
If you want a little background on this thread, so you can fully advise our new friend over here; please check the link below.
http://www.fz6-forum.com/forum/main...ike-just-made-deposit-good-pics-included.html

Thanks. And yes, the link above points to my thread at the FZ6 forum.
 
I think others are making you worry for nothing. I bought my bike from motorcycle superstore and did not have these kinds of issues. I negotiated a much cheaper price that put my bike on par of a good deal found on Craigslist or Kijiji. They are a dealership and as such operate like a dealership. Expect the person you are talking to is overworked and underpaid too. This goes a long way getting respect from dealers and will help when negotiating price. I got my bike the day it was scheduled for pickup, I also gave them a month knowing that they were super busy and backed up. As a precaution I snapped a few photos of the bike that I put a deposit on, never hurts.

When you hear about others issues, try to take them with a grain of salt. You're only getting one side of the story so you have to read it between the lines. In the thread posted above it sounds like the buyer could have done things differently for another outcome. The reason the guy didn't get some parts was because they have to safety the bike and make it legal. It sounds like he was impatient and was getting the run around about when the bike would be ready. Now from dealing with them, they tell you that they cannot truly tell until the day before, when a bike will be ready. It's how they line em up to be serviced. The mechanic just has a list of bikes, all in order.

When the guy picked up his bike it was hen that he should declare all things changed or wrong. He should have refused delivery of the bike till he talked to the owner (forget the mans name but has a long pony tail) and have the items resolved. Reading between the lines it sounds like they guy saw the bike, got super excited and happy, blinded by his new purchase he doesn't inspect it fully. They safety the bike to Ontario law and he picks it up not noticing anything wrong and finds later problems with it. To be truthful it may have happened that the things the buyer found were in fact correct. If that is the case then he missed the proper opportunity to have it all addressed. Had he taken pictures for example, he would have proof to back up claims.

Also to be truthful, the staff at the shop are a little rude and uncultured. But that's like every company and person I deal with these days. If you know a dog barks, you know how to handle the dog and keep it from barking. The shop isn't that bad provided you're on the ball. In regards to needing a mechanic to come with you, I think that's too much. If it will make you feel better then by all means, however the money you spend on a mechanic could go further in the price of the bike.
 
The bike I bought there was mechanically sound enough they just didn't make sure it was in good shape when I left. There was no warranty offered and sold in "Good Mechanical Condition" which can be taken a dozen ways in front of a lawer.... Not to mention the aftermarket stuff was missing when I got it. I think you really have to have everything in writing on the sales agreement when you sign. If you put a deposit on it I think you bought it, no slipping out (read the fine print) regardless of another mechanic looking at it, unless you specify that the sale is conditional based on an independent inspection.

Good luck.
 
I think others are making you worry for nothing. I bought my bike from motorcycle superstore and did not have these kinds of issues. I negotiated a much cheaper price that put my bike on par of a good deal found on Craigslist or Kijiji. They are a dealership and as such operate like a dealership. Expect the person you are talking to is overworked and underpaid too. This goes a long way getting respect from dealers and will help when negotiating price. I got my bike the day it was scheduled for pickup, I also gave them a month knowing that they were super busy and backed up. As a precaution I snapped a few photos of the bike that I put a deposit on, never hurts.

When you hear about others issues, try to take them with a grain of salt. You're only getting one side of the story so you have to read it between the lines. In the thread posted above it sounds like the buyer could have done things differently for another outcome. The reason the guy didn't get some parts was because they have to safety the bike and make it legal. It sounds like he was impatient and was getting the run around about when the bike would be ready. Now from dealing with them, they tell you that they cannot truly tell until the day before, when a bike will be ready. It's how they line em up to be serviced. The mechanic just has a list of bikes, all in order.

When the guy picked up his bike it was hen that he should declare all things changed or wrong. He should have refused delivery of the bike till he talked to the owner (forget the mans name but has a long pony tail) and have the items resolved. Reading between the lines it sounds like they guy saw the bike, got super excited and happy, blinded by his new purchase he doesn't inspect it fully. They safety the bike to Ontario law and he picks it up not noticing anything wrong and finds later problems with it. To be truthful it may have happened that the things the buyer found were in fact correct. If that is the case then he missed the proper opportunity to have it all addressed. Had he taken pictures for example, he would have proof to back up claims.

Also to be truthful, the staff at the shop are a little rude and uncultured. But that's like every company and person I deal with these days. If you know a dog barks, you know how to handle the dog and keep it from barking. The shop isn't that bad provided you're on the ball. In regards to needing a mechanic to come with you, I think that's too much. If it will make you feel better then by all means, however the money you spend on a mechanic could go further in the price of the bike.

Thank you!
 
The bike I bought there was mechanically sound enough they just didn't make sure it was in good shape when I left. There was no warranty offered and sold in "Good Mechanical Condition" which can be taken a dozen ways in front of a lawer.... Not to mention the aftermarket stuff was missing when I got it. I think you really have to have everything in writing on the sales agreement when you sign. If you put a deposit on it I think you bought it, no slipping out (read the fine print) regardless of another mechanic looking at it, unless you specify that the sale is conditional based on an independent inspection.

Good luck.

I put the deposit on the phone, no papers signed, if that makes any difference.
 
I put the deposit on the phone, no papers signed, if that makes any difference.

Call up the dealer and tell them you're no longer interested in purchasing a bike if they refuse to refund your money then you can call the CC company and dispute the charge, since the slip is not signed, they can't hold your deposit.
It doesn't matter if it's 50$ or 1000$
 
Call up the dealer and tell them you're no longer interested in purchasing a bike if they refuse to refund your money then you can call the CC company and dispute the charge, since the slip is not signed, they can't hold your deposit.
It doesn't matter if it's 50$ or 1000$

Thanks. Thing is that I'm not necessarily not interested in the bike yet---I'll go tomorrow to see it, and I guess that's when I'll make the decision. But thanks for the "trick", I might use it if I have to..
 
TL;DR I Didn't have a problem at Cycleworld when I bought my bike a few weeks ago. But I think I would go to GP Bikes if I could do it over again.

Just wanted to chime in here since I purchased my 2005 M50 a few weeks ago from Paul at CWS. I went in on a Sunday and put a deposit down. We set the target delivery (pickup) date for one week later. Paul told me to just call the service dept. in advance to make sure the bike is ready.

So I called the service dept. on the following Saturday and spoke to Mark (I think). He said everything was done except the test ride and asked me to call back in a few hours. Called back later in the afternoon and everything was ready. Went in on Sunday to pick up as originally planned. So that's the good part.

But I will say that if I could do it again, I would probably go to GP Bikes. The difference being:
  1. Much cleaner and more professional environment at GP Bikes.
  2. I also went into GP Bikes on the first Sunday and saw a 2004 Volusia 800 with plenty of accessories that I really liked. Jeremy said they would have it ready by Tuesday (3 days!).
  3. GP Bikes gave a 2 month warranty whereas CWS gave a 1 month "mechanically in good condition". Not sure what that means exactly...
    Edit 2: Just called CWS, and their 30-day warranty is on the safety.
  4. CWS didn't really clean the bike for delivery. Jeremy at GPB said they would wash their bike and make it pretty before pickup.
  5. To extend on point 3 above, I just noticed some drops of oil collecting underneath where I park the bike. I'll need to call them and hope they can take a look at no charge under the "warranty".
  6. CWS's bike turnover policy seems to be: get a used bike, remove all aftermarket accessories (like saddlebags & supports, luggage racks, passenger backrests, engine guards / highway bars, etc.), then sell the bike and accessories separately).
  7. Edit: Just wanted to add as well, that GP Bikes' prices were much more competitive; especially considering that most, if not all, their cruisers had saddlebags and passenger backrests.
The only reason I went with CWS is because I really wanted and '05 or later M50/C50 and they had plenty of those. GP Bikes didn't have any in stock. And I was blinded by my impatience.
 
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