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Upgrading to R3 from a Ninja 250?

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No Joe it isn't cause your old. It is many different factors though. First being maturity, (and that is not directed at the OP), it is just human nature and regardless of the number that represents one age, it is something that "normally" comes from life experience. Although I know some 50 year olds that it never seems to have taken to..lol Second is experience, both life and riding. Your life experience taught you intially that you weren't "mastering your bike" in the first 2 weeks, then your riding experience told you to stick with your shadow and enjoy ridign it and getting the most of that bike. Some people can ride for decades and never truly "master" what ever bike they are riding, (or for that matter any bike they ride).

Plus of course your constant need to refill on ice cream, that is why you really don't put on many miles..lol

Moseso than the lack of attention span, I chaulk it up to our need in todays society for "instant gratification". People seem to think if they are riding a 250 then there is no way they are fully "enjoying" the riding experience. this is also contributed to by ads that show guys ona sexy 600 SS dragging their knee as they corner. People with minimal experience also seem to think OK I have hit the redline in top gear, time to move up to a bigger bike. Just because someone got their bike up to 180 on the 401, in a straight line with little to no traffic, then that is it, surely they now need a litre SS, otherwise they are just "wasting their time" on the smaller cc bike.

OP others in this thread have given you GOOD solid advice, take some courses, learn what the bike you currently have can really do in the hands of an expereinced rider. Go read the track sub forum you will see many of the riders talking about how guys on 125's are whipping guys on 600 cc machines. It isn't how many cc's you have but how you use them...lol

Keep the 250 take the courses recommended and ride your 250 the rest of this season. Then if next spring you REALLY still think you need an upgrade, sell your 250 then, (you will see more money for it in the spring then you will if you try to sell it now, for many novice riders the season is over half done. Also prepare for insurance sticker shock
Joe Bass said:
Someone help me out here, and no offence @Riding2theGym, as you are not the first to post these intentions in this time frame...now I'm going on my 5th season as a rider. I don't have a long commute, and with 2 kids, I don't get out as much as I would like, but I haven't even thought of getting a different ride. Yes, it's a 750, but it's a Shadow -- 42~hp. I'd be willing to bet those 250's will leave me in the dust all day, every day. Is it because I'm old? Because I ride a cruiser? Because IDGAF whether others think I'm cool? (which, btw, I am). Or is it because we live in such a fast paced world, where our attention spans have been all but eliminated, that we get bored of things, like 250's, after 2 months?
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conundrum said:
I felt the same actually when sitting on it (Ninja 650R) or a FZ6R. I like a bit of a forwards lean -- Not fetal position, but not bolt upright either. CBR650F has a bit more of a forwards lean than my CBR250RA did, and a little less than the VFR800F. Makes me feel more like-one with the bike, vs balanced on top of it.
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I wish my bandit was more up right.

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Yeah, I wouldn't go 250 to 300. If you can wing it a CBR500R is a nice interim step. A CBR650F gets you into a different realm of speed and power while still being comfortable and reasonably insurable.

Ultimately it's up to you. Only you know your skill & competence, comfort level and bank balance.
 
Blackfin said:
Yeah, I wouldn't go 250 to 300. If you can wing it a CBR500R is a nice interim step. A CBR650F gets you into a different realm of speed and power while still being comfortable and reasonably insurable.

Ultimately it's up to you. Only you know your skill & competence, comfort level and bank balance.
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Agreed
 
Ridin2TheGym said:
Is the r3 a good upgrade over a ninja 250? Ive been riding my 09 ninja for 2 weeks now (first bike) and have racked up about 1100km (yes my gyms pretty far lol) I was wondering if the R3 would be a noticeable upgrade over the 250 because I sat on many bikes today at SnowCity and I feel like the R3 was the most comfortable. The ZX6r was too aggressive and the 650 was too upright.
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No.


Aside from the fact there isn't a substantial difference, I would save your money and garnish some more experience. Next season if you still feel the urge to "upgrade" ... Take a look at the 650's as mentioned previously.
Realistically you should wait until the demo days next year and test ride EVERYTHING you can get your hands on.
At this point you don't really know what you want, and have no experience with different types of bikes.

Why are you mentioning upgrades? Does the bike feel too slow? Are you uncomfortable? Issues 2UP? etc etc...
 
Chasem said:
No.


Aside from the fact there isn't a substantial difference, I would save your money and garnish some more experience. Next season if you still feel the urge to "upgrade" ... Take a look at the 650's as mentioned previously.
Realistically you should wait until the demo days next year and test ride EVERYTHING you can get your hands on.
At this point you don't really know what you want, and have no experience with different types of bikes.

Why are you mentioning upgrades? Does the bike feel too slow? Are you uncomfortable? Issues 2UP? etc etc...
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I feel like OP may be mentioning upgrades because the bike is boring due to the lack of speed and power. Which is reasonable when riding city and straights, a 250 gets boring very quick.

@OP, def take advice from what other's have said here, keep the bike for this season at LEAST. There is so much to learn on that 250, take it out to the twisties and you will see that its more than enough to keep up with the bigger bikes, plus its more nimble and easier to throw around.

I was looking into upgrading my 300 after 1 year of riding, however sky high insurance quotes kept me from doing so, and I am ever so glad I stayed with the 300, i've learned so much bore on that bike.
 
Bikerider said:
I wish my bandit was more up right.

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$35 for a set of risers at Royal Distributing. I did it to my bandit, 1" made a world of difference.
 
Iceman said:
$35 for a set of risers at Royal Distributing. I did it to my bandit, 1" made a world of difference.
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That's what she said ?
 
Bikerider said:
Do I need longer brake / clutch lines?

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Nope, not for an inch or so. The have two styles, 1" back, or 1"up and 1" back.
 
1100 km is hardly any riding. That's like 11 hours at 100km/h so given that you've done mostly commuting to your gym and back odd are you may have 20-25 hours riding in a commute. You haven't even begun to get a feel for your bike. Your bike is awesome for twisties, city riding, and gas mileage. Take some advanced courses and ride the wheels off it.
 
CruisnGrrl said:
1100 km is hardly any riding. That's like 11 hours at 100km/h so given that you've done mostly commuting to your gym and back odd are you may have 20-25 hours riding in a commute. You haven't even begun to get a feel for your bike. Your bike is awesome for twisties, city riding, and gas mileage. Take some advanced courses and ride the wheels off it.
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Don't actually ride the wheels off it. Just saying.
 
conundrum said:
That's part of the reason why I decided against a SS and got the CBR650F instead. Still more than enough power for our roads & limits, but cheaper and much more comfortable ergonomics. The hour might have been pessimistic, but I still remember after the demo rides I knew I could do maybe double and then would want off the RR. In contrast, I rode for 5hrs pretty much straight coming back from Ottawa a few weeks back, and only got off the bike for maybe a total of 10 mins (2 stops) essentially for gas and a drink of water.
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theres more than 1 bike model and design out there for a reason get what you like.
personally im not a fan of all these small CC bikes, all i see is people buying them riding for a couple weeks then wanting something bigger.
buy a 500cc or bigger, it will save you money in the longrun.

im sure i could get in just as much is not more trouble on one of those ninja 300s as i can on my 600rr. i dont think the insurance between the 600rr and the cbr 650f is different at all...actually the 600rr is probably less with state farm. bike only i pay 150 a month.
i dont see the jump from a 250 to a 300 worthwhile at all. as for the 600 to 636 comment, ive been thinking about this switch just because i like the 636 but i dont see myself doing this anytime soon if at all, i love my CBR600rr.
 
@BikeRider when I say too upright I mean it feels like im riding on a scooter..yes its comfortable, but the reason I ride a sports bike is the athletic position, it just feels good.

Thank you everyone else for the replies, I guess the reason i'm looking for an upgrade is because I do spend some time on the highway, living downtown its hard to find good roads near me. So I was thinking maybe an R3 would have enough power to ride the highways comfortablely
 
Why the hell can't a 250 do highways?

Someone is on crack. Save your money for the habit.
 
Ridin2TheGym said:
@BikeRider when I say too upright I mean it feels like im riding on a scooter..yes its comfortable, but the reason I ride a sports bike is the athletic position, it just feels good.

Thank you everyone else for the replies, I guess the reason i'm looking for an upgrade is because I do spend some time on the highway, living downtown its hard to find good roads near me. So I was thinking maybe an R3 would have enough power to ride the highways comfortablely
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You are confusing athletic with aerodynamic, unless you want to say motocross riders are not athletic (you'd be very wrong). Put a decent windscreen on a touring bike and you get some aerodynamic advantage back, plus you also get the most comfortable position for riding anyway. Unfortunately a lot of young people put form before function. I get that sport bikes look good to some people and some feel the need to pose with them, but to me after a few seasons I appreciate the form and function of a good adventure bike over a sports bike now as they are so much more useful for what I want to do. By the way...after a reasonable distance that position that feels good to you right now....isn't going to.
 
jc100 said:
You are confusing athletic with aerodynamic, unless you want to say motocross riders are not athletic (you'd be very wrong). Put a decent windscreen on a touring bike and you get some aerodynamic advantage back, plus you also get the most comfortable position for riding anyway. Unfortunately a lot of young people put form before function. I get that sport bikes look good to some people and some feel the need to pose with them, but to me after a few seasons I appreciate the form and function of a good adventure bike over a sports bike now as they are so much more useful for what I want to do. By the way...after a reasonable distance that position that feels good to you right now....isn't going to.
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All true. But to be fair I value function of purpose, which a sportbike gives in spades if you want a responsive scalpel for high speed sweeper riding. For 20 years I preferred the sport position. Only at around 36 did I even start to think about other types of bikes for street riding and only now (at almost 46) can I truly have fun riding a big cruiser. So let Gym-man enjoy what he likes while he likes it. And forget a 50cc boost as an upgrade all other things being the same. Enjoy what you have until a 600 or larger makes financial sense.
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