Unsaftied vs Safetied: Use buying

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Last year I purchased my GS500F where the guy safetied the bike for me before I came to purchase it, got me the UVP and delivered it to me for the listed price.

Last weekend I went around w/ my gf to go find her a bike. One of the guys selling was insistent on selling their bike w/o a safety (even though he was riding it), wanted to charge 3500, had a rusted chain, and wanted to charge additional money to deliver the bike. He kept telling me that a 'safety is optional' law wise. I know it is, but I was under the impression that most people don't sell cars without having them safetied first.

Is this a norm? As I've only purchased one bike, I don't know the standard practices. Just wondering what to expect in the future.
 
You can sell either way and there's no rule really. Some people just don't want or don't have money to dump into a safety and leave it to the buyer. Some people get a "safety" from some less than scrupulous mechanics and the bike isn't really "safe". It's sometimes easier to sell it with a safety cert because the buyer has some trust that someone neutral has looked at the bike and deemed it safe. It's able to be ridden right away. Personally, I wouldn't trust a safety on a vehicle done by the seller. It's not an indictment of the mechanics doing the safety really, but I'd prefer to look the vehicle over myself or with someone I know who will be more careful perhaps than the seller.

That's why uncertified vehicles are always cheaper than certified.

edit: If he's delivering the bike, you'd expect to pay I think. It's not part of the sale price, really, is it?
 
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It needs to be safetied to transfer the ownership... it's best to arrange it so the buyer gets it done, then you don't have to worry about any surprises when you go to get it safetied
 
油井緋色;1829973 said:
Last year I purchased my GS500F where the guy safetied the bike for me before I came to purchase it, got me the UVP and delivered it to me for the listed price.

Last weekend I went around w/ my gf to go find her a bike. One of the guys selling was insistent on selling their bike w/o a safety (even though he was riding it), wanted to charge 3500, had a rusted chain, and wanted to charge additional money to deliver the bike. He kept telling me that a 'safety is optional' law wise. I know it is, but I was under the impression that most people don't sell cars without having them safetied first.

Is this a norm? As I've only purchased one bike, I don't know the standard practices. Just wondering what to expect in the future.
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Yup sounds legit, i'd buy it
 
i would say its about 50/50 on the used market whether or not it is safetied. At least in my experience.

Personally, when buying used, id either have my own mechanic come look at it and buy it as - is, OR have the seller safety it at a location of my choosing that is convenient to the seller.. Letting them take it to their brothers girlfriends step dads army buddy for a 'safety' does no one any good.
 
when it's safetied, isn't the seller on the hook if there are any 'surprises'? i know the mechanic is putting his license on the line, but isn't there some sort of 30 day liability if anything pops up?
 
Just me personally, but I wouldn't buy a bike unless the seller was willing to safety it. The last thing I'd want to do is buy a bike just find out it needs XYZ in order to get safetied once I bring it in. I'm not overly mechanically inclined, so I don't want any surprises.

Having said that, it's not unusual that a seller would try and sell a bike without a safety. Sometimes people just don't have time, or they already know that work needs to be done. In this particular case, the seller probably already knows that the chain would need to be replaced....
 
Because he is riding the bike also does not mean it will pass safety. You only have to safety the bike once when you buy it. You can let it all go to hell after that and keep riding it around with bald tires, no breaks and all that (not recommended of course).

He probably just does not want to go through it all getting it fixed up to sell and forking the money out for that as well.

I sold my last car un safetied, the price reflected that, and will be selling my current car that way as well. Usually the price reflects what needs to be done to get the bike safetied, sometimes you can find a good deal as someone just wants to get rid of it, not wanting the hassle, so sell if significantly cheaper then a safetied bike.
 
I'd safety it myself! There's tons of car shops that see one bike a year for a safety, there cheaper for sure but you get what u pay for! I have a shop I trust and that's who I bring it to! Chances are most sellers will go to the cheapest shop they can get regardless of experience with bikes!!

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asking for free delievery is making an offer. Maybe they don't have the means to deliever it?

The asking price is $3500 as is. You give him $3500 and he gives you the bike and hopefully papers. any more it's up to him to accept. ie. delivery, wash/wax, etc,
 
tricky said:
It needs to be safetied to transfer the ownership... it's best to arrange it so the buyer gets it done, then you don't have to worry about any surprises when you go to get it safetied
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Transferring ownership has nothing to do with a safety
 
If you are legitimately concerned about a safety and have no clue of what you're looking for (in terms of the bike actually being safe), buy it at a discount and do it yourself (take it to a shop yourself).

Do you know how easy it is to get a safety done on a bike that isn't safe?

And lets' say for argument that the bike you bought is really unsafe even though you have a cert...what are you going to do? What happens after a garage certs your bike and the time you take it home is your own business. IE what's to say you didn't do something to it?

You'l be out of luck essentially.
 
its a cash grab, negotiate best price you can find.

all you need to worry about is minimum tire tread, brakes work, lights work done...

a "safety" doenst mean bike is safe...

a safety doesnt cost more than $50 if you go to the right shop.

many dealers and auto shops will charge more, thats a cash grab.

so dont fret it.

you can get your plate and Temp sticker and ride over and get it safetied.

I dont know why people think its such a big deal these days.

just sold a ninja 250 and was pulling my hair out with newbs asking my is it safetied, wont buy unless safetied.
im like take a $60 price drop and safety yourself...not good enough
 
djbordie said:
its a cash grab, negotiate best price you can find.

all you need to worry about is minimum tire tread, brakes work, lights work done...

a "safety" doenst mean bike is safe...

a safety doesnt cost more than $50 if you go to the right shop.

many dealers and auto shops will charge more, thats a cash grab.

so dont fret it.

you can get your plate and Temp sticker and ride over and get it safetied.

I dont know why people think its such a big deal these days.

just sold a ninja 250 and was pulling my hair out with newbs asking my is it safetied, wont buy unless safetied.
im like take a $60 price drop and safety yourself...not good enough
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If it's no big deal, why didn't you just safety it?? Just sayin..
 
Personally when a seller says 'safetied' it means more like, 'pay more'
How do I know that it wasn't his buddy from somewhere that did it without looking at the bike? I always safety it myself anyways.
And for this same reason I always sell unsafetied and uncertified. I'll take a bit of a price drop because of it. If you are worried about the mechanics being ****ed beyond the chain, bring a knowledgeable buddy with you to look at it.
 
invictus43 said:
If it's no big deal, why didn't you just safety it?? Just sayin..
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it's still your time to go get it done..and even more of an effort if it's no longer insured.

the ones that refuse the sale solely cuz it's not safetied really don't know what they're looking at or don't understand the safety certification itself.
 
JFD said:
it's still your time to go get it done..and even more of an effort if it's no longer insured.

the ones that refuse the sale solely cuz it's not safetied really don't know what they're looking at or don't understand the safety certification itself.
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That's my point..it DOES require effort..in this case, the effort of the buyer. So let's not say it's no big deal. If it were no big deal, the seller would do it.
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