uh oh, time to get rid of Fido?

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Freestyle72 said:
Umm no. And even if this was correct we would need to manufacture that much more of it for pet use. So your point is moot.



I agree with you.

I don't get why pet owners get so bent out of shape about it. Not like I give a ****. I have fires in my backyard all the time. My tenant leaves her lights on 24 hours a day 7 days a week and I don't tell her a damn thing about it. I own two bikes and 3 cars. But what I don't understand is why people are so offended that someone would dare say their pet is a massive consumption of energy when they are in fact. The way I see it is if you are able to afford the energy (because that's what we are buying basically) then go for it. But don't try to play it off like leaving your dogs **** everywhere is good for the environment or something. Someone mentions about the dog **** being good fertilizer? Thats ****in rediculous, it does not make good fertilizer, you need to process any kind of **** before it can be used for that purpose (again more energy used there).
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Actually rmemedic is right. Any meds you give to your pet are pretty much the same ones they give to people but in much smaller doses. Pet pharmaceutical companies don't create new meds for animals they just figure out how to make people meds work on animals without killing them. But still a moot point because of the increase demand for said drugs, as you said.

Also, I think most sheep are raised for their wool, not as food.

But this whole convo does seems kind of hypocritical on a motorcycle forum. I personally would choose my dog over a motorcycle if I had to pick one toxic "carbon footprint" over another to own. It seems like a pretty silly article. They chose dogs as a target because people love dogs. I am sure they could have found similar results on carbon footprints for things like hard wood flooring or teflon pans :rolleyes:
 
True. For example heart medicine for cats is the exact same as for humans, but in a smaller dosage. You can just take human tablets and quarter them into smaller pieces if they are the right weight.
 
They can kiss my rear end and suck my exhaust if they think I'm going to stop owning a dog based on lame study.
A) My dog provides security rather than a home security system.
B) He provides peace of mind when i am out walking. Day or night, doesn't matter
C) If I had a hard day at work and I come home stressed, it's been clinically proven that petting a dog helps. (therapy dogs)
D) He encourages me to stay active during the year. He needs to be walked. Therefore I'm saving the governement on healthcare costs.

I know dogs will never be banned from being owned, but still. This study was a giant waste of time.
 
bboySushi said:
True. For example heart medicine for cats is the exact same as for humans, but in a smaller dosage. You can just take human tablets and quarter them into smaller pieces if they are the right weight.
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You can give benedryl to dogs for allergies. My dog gets it given to him for scratching.
 
ABadjusterrider_5 said:
I know dogs will never be banned from being owned, but still. This study was a giant waste of time.
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Your time wasn't wasted, why should you care what other people do with their time any more than they should care what pets people have?

It's funny how people get so defensive about their dogs. Maybe they are in denial that dogs are mostly a lifestyle choice rather than any of the security/companionship/fitness excuses you listed? The reality is that most people go "awwww what a cute/cool/neat dog that is, I want one!" And then they don't discipline them, when the novelty wears off they don't care for them properly and then we have one more irritating dog in the neighbourhood.

Let me know when you get bored with your dog, I'll bring over my barbeque.
 
fastar1 said:
Your time wasn't wasted, why should you care what other people do with their time any more than they should care what pets people have?

It's funny how people get so defensive about their dogs. Maybe they are in denial that dogs are mostly a lifestyle choice rather than any of the security/companionship/fitness excuses you listed? The reality is that most people go "awwww what a cute/cool/neat dog that is, I want one!" And then they don't discipline them, when the novelty wears off they don't care for them properly and then we have one more irritating dog in the neighbourhood.

Let me know when you get bored with your dog, I'll bring over my barbeque.
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I've had my dog 3 years, haven't been bored yet. I don't know where you come from, but my dog is as much family as I am.

As for being an irresponsable pet owner. I mention this, becase you mention it in your post. Prior to getting my dog I read 4 books, 3 magazines on proper pet ownership. After getting my dog I ensured he got all of his shots, properly registered with his vet and the local township. I attended obidence classes with him. Puppy, beginner and advanced. I ensured he was properly socialized having him meet all sorts of people and in different settings. Currently on Mondays my girlfriend and I attend classes in a high school field (outdoors, lots of distractions) and work with him on different commands (long range recalls off leash for example). My dog is crate trained. If you doubt how well my dog is trained, come over to my place and let me give you a demonstration. Oh, and I should also mention that I can bring my dog to work with me as the owners here love my dog. As do most of the staff.

While I won't dispute there are owners out there who do exactly as you mention and don't care for theirs, I am not one of them. And your comment of bringing your bbq I interpret as a direct attack on me.
 
The fairly new adopted sensitivity to 'carbon footprints' in general is really ridiculous. Dog owners, pay no attention to this.
 
ABadjusterrider_5 said:
While I won't dispute there are owners out there who do exactly as you mention and don't care for theirs, I am not one of them. And your comment of bringing your bbq I interpret as a direct attack on me.
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I thought you might get upset, but I didn't mean to offend! Was hoping you'd see the humour actually. Oh well what can you do.

Just to be clear, I never suggested you were one of the bad owners. It's that thing about being all defensive popping up again. Do I have to love your car too?
 
fastar1 said:
I thought you might get upset, but I didn't mean to offend! Was hoping you'd see the humour actually. Oh well what can you do.

Just to be clear, I never suggested you were one of the bad owners. It's that thing about being all defensive popping up again. Do I have to love your car too?
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Pick-up truck actually and as long as you use a good wax.
 
Best not to do anything pleasurable. That will make you live longer in general and you know what type of footprint humans have.

Has the general IQ gone down so much, that they think people will buy this book?
 
Time to rig a big hamster wheel and generator for my pooches= free electricity :)
 
djez said:
Time to rig a big hamster wheel and generator for my pooches= free electricity :)
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And feed them snouts and entrails, which people don't normally eat. Oh snap!
 
Baggsy said:
And feed them snouts and entrails, which people don't normally eat. Oh snap!
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That's another very good point.. the study accounted for land used to farm food to feed the dogs. I would imagine the meats and grains processed into dog food are bought when they are passed their prime for human consumption or parts of the meats humans don't generally eat, and would otherwise go to waste, thus providing income to farmers who would have had to simply throw it out. I don't have a source on this, but something tells me even though I make sure to buy dog food where the first ingredient is meat, it's not made with filet mignon or cordon blue choice cutlets..
 
just_luc said:
That's another very good point.. the study accounted for land used to farm food to feed the dogs. I would imagine the meats and grains processed into dog food are bought when they are passed their prime for human consumption or parts of the meats humans don't generally eat, and would otherwise go to waste, thus providing income to farmers who would have had to simply throw it out. I don't have a source on this, but something tells me even though I make sure to buy dog food where the first ingredient is meat, it's not made with filet mignon or cordon blue choice cutlets..
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I've raised dogs feeding from my leftovers. I think its still healthier than the crap I buy
 
The study raises a point though, that it's not exactly the dog that leaves the carbon footprint but rather the mass produced food that owners use to feed them. I'm not a dog owner so I can't speak from experience, but there are alternate diets out there for pets. It's funny to use the term 'alternative', assuming that feeding a carnivorous animal dry kibble is somehow the natural diet for their species. The wife and I have seriously considered forgoing the cat kibble and switching our cats to a raw food diet.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/consumers/pet-food-alternatives.html
 
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Dogs are the fruit of the household. You can barbecue 'em, boil 'em, broil 'em, bake 'em, sautee 'em.

There's, um, dog kebabs, dog creole, dog gumbo, pan fried, deep fried, stir fried. There's pineapple dog and lemon dog, coconut dog, pepper dog, dog soup, dog stew, dog salad, dog and potatoes, dog burger, dog sandwich...

That's, that's about it.
 
fastar1 said:
Dogs are the fruit of the household. You can barbecue 'em, boil 'em, broil 'em, bake 'em, sautee 'em.

There's, um, dog kebabs, dog creole, dog gumbo, pan fried, deep fried, stir fried. There's pineapple dog and lemon dog, coconut dog, pepper dog, dog soup, dog stew, dog salad, dog and potatoes, dog burger, dog sandwich...

That's, that's about it.
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Are you Asian?
 
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