Turn down the volume on your sportbike exhaust - Brampton - Stop ruing a good thing

Take a look around, motorcycles have already made themselves unwelcome at kennedy commons, there is now a cop that comes by l&l and starts booting people as soon as they get noisy. Last time i was there it was some one on a sport bike bouncing it off the rev limiter. another time it was some one on a sport bike bouncing it off the rev limiter until the packing of his muffler blew out. yeah theres representation from the straight pipe crowd too but they aren't the ones sitting there bouncing off the rev limiter, they make noise when they come and when they go. asshats like that ruin it for everyone else.
 
Now I know for sure you don't ride. And BTW only Caledon (In Ontario) has chosen to do this. As well, the last time I checked I wasn't part of any "collective group". What I choose to do is my choice alone and I accept responsibility for it. I'm perfectly aware of the current "state of affairs". Law clerk and a socialist. I'm starting to understand your motivations.

As far as the approach that Caledon has taken, I suspect it will fail as the testing method will be tested in court time and time again. It will be found to be lacking and easily challenged. It will also result in a reduction of motorcycles in the Caledon area as people will not want to be detained, scrutinized and harassed. This in turn will result in less business for Caledon. Pure folly. But have it your way Dish. We know where your true feelings lie.

Actually I'm fairly certain that having motorcyclists stay away from Caledon is precisely what the authors of that bylaw truly wish to happen. In truth it will impact there businesses very little, apart from a very small minority (one or two) who choose to cater to motorcyclists. When Turner owned the Belfountain corner store he wasn't very popular with residents, for his pro motorcycle stance.

Motorcycles are really only around, in significant numbers, for 4 months of the year. During that time, they make a nuisance of themselves. Most go through, rather than stopping and spending any significant amount of money in the area. There aren't a lot of motorcyclists who ride away with an antique armoire bungie corded to the back seat.

Like it or not, we're seen as a group. Those who constantly say, "I'll do whatever the hell I want to." make life difficult for the rest of us.
 
Excuse me, is this where I post questions regarding why someone didn't wave to me? Opps! Sorry..............carry on.
 
i’ll start this post off with a fact which i feel is simple, accurate and the truth. If you do something which offends the majority of people you are looking to have the offensive thing restricted or removed. If you’ve heard about such things being restricted elsewhere you should be seeing the writing on the wall.


I’m talking your post op. (and forgive me if this gets “preachy”).


I like whining and nagging on forums too so i won’t be going to the mods or picking up the torch against you. I live between the here and there in markham along but not close highway 7 and have to tell you it is only a matter of time before opposition gets the e-mail of the local do good mod.


I’m not really sure how the naggers of these super loud posts put up with their posts, i’m sure it’s cool but after a half hour of typing – come on.


At my house in the early hours of the morning i’m left wondering if any of these whinny members have the conceptual ability to understand how needlessly long their posts are and how far the annoyance produced by their posts travels in the forums they post in. An intelligent person understands the forum are a part of and the effect they have in it.


Maybe if i put it another way… part of what makes bike forums so good is their members who own bikes and do not nag… none of the do goodies like you to do all those bad things you do with your posts and no matter what you think your annoyance costs reflect the many bad things done by your nagging and whining peers (you know who you are).

I won’t even mention the want to be’s with the accounts with very few posts i’ve seen around nagging/complaining. Uh!


Please stop ruining a good thing. If your tolerance for sport bike aftermarket exhausts is low, deal with it – certain cruisers come like that stock and may be louder...don't forget the ricers...and your post - it's too dumb.


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turbodish;1625543[B said:
]Why not? We don't seen to have a problem telling heavy trucks to piss off. Why should you have more rights than them?[/B]


Mode of transport is not a protected right under our Charter.

In any case, the answer seems pretty simple. Riders need to exercise restraint when it comes to both modifying their bikes to make more noise, and to using their bikes in a way that creates excessive noise. Like everything else in life, if people can't exercise restraint on their own to avoid inflicting unreasonable impact on others, the inevitable response will be more laws to deal with that impact.

A commercial truck is not a passenger vehicle, it can not be compared to a motorcycle or car!
 
I actually find the sound of a burping, farting, blaring cruiser far more offensive and annoying to the ears than I do a sportbike. But hey, that's just me. :rolleyes: And how many mistake a little import car with a screaming exhaust for a sportbike because they don't know any better? I'm going to say many. I've been fooled myself on occasion.

And before haters start chugging back the haterade, I have a dB Dawg in my exhaust and decided to leave it in after the track. Don't wanna upset all of those with sensitive hearing. My exhaust is now pretty damn quiet and exceeds noise restrictions.
 
I hate when drivers roll in my neighbourhood late at night with their radios on full blast, lack of respect for neighbours (namely, one pick up with loud Mexican music - in Brampton!) I turn down my music when I roll in the neighbourhood in m car (and so when I turn it on in the mornings, it's not blasting and shocking me), and drop gears so I putter in and out in the mornings and nights.

I'm around the Gore and Queen, with a couple of sport/sport touring bikes, old and new, and me, on my SS (with kind of a loud aftermarket pipe). Occasionally my brother rides it, and while I'm still in bed, with my windows wide open, in a room that's next to the garage, the stock Rebel 2 doors down is louder than mine.

I rode through the Forks a couple of weeks ago, and didn't have any troubles.

There are plenty of sport bikes ripping up and down the Gore at night, I hear them as I fall asleep but they never wake me up. My house is probably 500m from it.
 
Actually I'm fairly certain that having motorcyclists stay away from Caledon is precisely what the authors of that bylaw truly wish to happen. In truth it will impact there businesses very little, apart from a very small minority (one or two) who choose to cater to motorcyclists. When Turner owned the Belfountain corner store he wasn't very popular with residents, for his pro motorcycle stance.

Motorcycles are really only around, in significant numbers, for 4 months of the year. During that time, they make a nuisance of themselves. Most go through, rather than stopping and spending any significant amount of money in the area. There aren't a lot of motorcyclists who ride away with an antique armoire bungie corded to the back seat.

Like it or not, we're seen as a group. Those who constantly say, "I'll do whatever the hell I want to." make life difficult for the rest of us.

While I appreciate what you're saying, my point about lost business in Caledon or whatever town chooses to make war on the motorcycle, however small it may be is real. I suspect other towns that may be considering such a bylaw could be hurt financially to a greater degree that the Township of Caledon. I also suspect that a large number of the people that pushed for this law are both retired and not active (or ever) motorcycle riders. There motivations were mostly selfish. I also think categorizing most of the guys who visit Caledon as "nuisances" is certainly a large generalization if not serious exaggeration. As a mid-forties sport bike and adventure bike rider I don't think I'm a nuisance and I used to spend money in Caledon. But no more.

BTW, I wasn't stating that "I'll do whatever I want." turbo attempted to shoehorn me into a collective. I'm not comfortable with that as I have free will. My riding reflects my personality and while I realize that some guys that ride motorcycles do it in a manner that could be seen as a nuisance, I don't fit this category and will continue to protect my individual rights in this regard. If I am pulled over and detained or harassed because some cop has categorized me as a threat because I ride a sport bike, I will protect my right to ride the bike I choose as the law gives me the right to do so.

I just won't do it in Caledon.
 
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We live in a valley, so anything that is loud at all echoes.
During the day it's all fine but at night it can be brutal.
Low flying airplanes and helicopters are the worst, but trucks that are engine braking, along with cars and bikes with modified exhausts are up there too, finally there are train horns when someone is on or near the tracks.

I don't understand people who don't chillax and go with the flow, instead they run out and buy these loud exhausts, and then get peeved calling others obnoxious, for pointing out that they are obnoxious, when they rip through neighborhoods on loud bikes.
If your bike comes that way stock then it's passed a test, if you've made a foolish purchase of a loud exhaust because you like it, then what kind of person are you going to be labelled as?
The best are the ones who then wear earplugs so that the loud exhaust doesn't affect them. What's with that?
 
CruisnGrrl said:
asshats like that ruin it for everyone else.

Exactly!

These are the same idiots who start the bike up and immediatley rev the piss out of it.

Numpties.
 
While I appreciate what you're saying, my point about lost business in Caledon or whatever town chooses to make war on the motorcycle, however small it may be is real. I suspect other towns that may be considering such a bylaw could be hurt financially to a greater degree that the Township of Caledon. I also suspect that a large number of the people that pushed for this law are both retired and not active (or ever) motorcycle riders. There motivations were mostly selfish. I also think categorizing most of the guys who visit Caledon as "nuisances" is certainly a large generalization if not serious exaggeration. As a mid-forties sport bike and adventure bike rider I don't think I'm a nuisance and I used to spend money in Caledon. But no more.

BTW, I wasn't stating that "I'll do whatever I want." turbo attempted to shoehorn me into a collective. I'm not comfortable with that as I have free will. My riding reflects my personality and while I realize that some guys that ride motorcycles do it in a manner that could be seen as a nuisance, I don't fit this category and will continue to protect my individual rights in this regard. If I am pulled over and detained or harassed because some cop has categorized me as a threat because I ride a sport bike, I will protect my right to ride the bike I choose as the law gives me the right to do so.

I just won't do it in Caledon.

I think that you've both misread and mis-characterized my comments, to which you responded. I made no comment indicating that I think most riders are nuisances. Quite the opposite, actually, if you take the time to re-read my post. The perception may be that we're all nuisances, which would be incorrect, but it is the perception that matters in such cases.

Of course their motivations are selfish. NIMBY, by definition, is selfish. That doesn't mean such people aren't entitled to having a reasonably quiet life on their rural, residential roads either. In such cases, as I indicated, the few ruin things for the many. A few selfish people, riders, behave in a stupid manner and have us all painted with a broad brush. Again, as I said, like it or not you're lumped into a larger group by those who are being effected. That isn't turbodish's doing; it's simple human nature. Unless you've got a banner on your bike that states "I'M NOT ONE OF THEM!", you'll be considered 'part of the collective.' Free will is immaterial, because you're not able to voluntarily remove yourself. As a result you must act to alter the behaviour of others, who also possess free will, in order to alter perception of non-riders.

As to the financial issue, it's up for grabs. How many people don't go to an area, because they're intimidated (rightly or wrongly) by the presence of motorcyclists? Would they return if the riders, who you must admit have a very limited input into the local economy, left? It might well be a net benefit, for local businesses.
 
I live off Hwy 7 in G-town and constantly get blamed for noise, even though I am sleeping same as everyone else. I see both points here. Loud pipes when treated correctly have merit as well as treating them correctly when in a quiet residential street. I think it's the Civics with the fart cans that make the most around here namely because the car is in need of a tune up.
 
People who think that the Caledon noise bylaws will adversely effect businesses in the town are probably the same ones that thought every bar in Ontario would go out of business when smoking ban was implemented. I'm still going to stop at the Shed for a coffee because I enjoy meeting and talking with other riders. Maybe next year conversations won't be interrupted by obnoxiously loud vehicles.
 
Take a look around, motorcycles have already made themselves unwelcome at kennedy commons, there is now a cop that comes by l&l and starts booting people as soon as they get noisy. Last time i was there it was some one on a sport bike bouncing it off the rev limiter. another time it was some one on a sport bike bouncing it off the rev limiter until the packing of his muffler blew out. yeah theres representation from the straight pipe crowd too but they aren't the ones sitting there bouncing off the rev limiter, they make noise when they come and when they go. asshats like that ruin it for everyone else.

I was there last week, cops rolled in, talked to some guys and then left. The number of douches coming in on stupid loud cruisers is crazy... Yes, the straight pipe crowd is there, but don't blame alllllll the **** on ss riders...
There are just as many idiot cruiser riders are there are ss riders..

Hey OP, you live in Brampton are you complaining about the jets landing and taking off at pearson? We do live in a city that is in the direct route for landing jets at pearson after all.
Are you going to start complaining about lawn mowers being used during the day?
Ever play the music in your car or house loud?
Ever scream loudly while cleaning the sand out of your vag?

Interesting enough I could point out numerous pipes on cruisers that are straight through, whereas I have never really seen straights on a ss.
 
I was there last week, cops rolled in, talked to some guys and then left. The number of ******* coming in on stupid loud cruisers is crazy... Yes, the straight pipe crowd is there, but don't blame alllllll the **** on ss riders...
There are just as many idiot cruiser riders are there are ss riders..

Hey OP, you live in Brampton are you complaining about the jets landing and taking off at pearson? We do live in a city that is in the direct route for landing jets at pearson after all.
Are you going to start complaining about lawn mowers being used during the day?
Ever play the music in your car or house loud?
Ever scream loudly while cleaning the sand out of your vag?

Interesting enough I could point out numerous pipes on cruisers that are straight through, whereas I have never really seen straights on a ss.

Do you live in Brampton? I've been there since 1972.
 
Ironically, I met a rider in Brampton on the weekend who claimed putting straight pipes sans baffles on his Shadow 750 gained him 15-20 HP. :rolleyes:
 
I'll be the first to admit that some of these cruisers are EXTREMELY loud....and no one should say that the noise issue is only from SS bikes....as it is from many different types of vehicles.

There's just something about picturing someone on a Bike looking at the revs in the upper 1/4 of the range and hearing the screaming exhaust and thinking: "naw. No need to shift just yet."

Same with fart cans on small displacement cars.
 
Of course both cruisers and sport bikes can be loud and obnoxious. But in this particular case, the OP is complaining about sport bikes. Are we not able to admit that sport bike riders can *also* act like jerkwads without getting all defensive and trying to shift the blame to loud cruiser pipes??

Edit: for the record, I have stock HD pipes and I currently sound like a lame, quiet tractor
 
Are we not able to admit that sport bike riders can *also* act like jerkwads without getting all defensive and trying to shift the blame to loud cruiser pipes??

Of course not....cause the sport bike riders who are rushing here to defend the loud revving Sport Bikes are the ones who themselves ride around in low gear and high revs...making them too immature to leave the blame o nthemselves, let alone shift to a higher gear.
 
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