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Truck reverse parked over my bike. Wait for cash or go through insurance?!?

KingDavid

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Parked in a regular parking spot, at the back and across the spot as a bike should be. I watch in horror as this lady begins to reverse park into the spot my bike is in. I gave her the benefit of the doubt hoping she was aiming for one of the empty spots to either side of my bike. However, this was not the case, as she continued to back into my bike and pushed it over.

Damages include:
2 large cracks in my rear fairing
Rash on my Akrapovic carbon fibre exhaust
Rash on my right fairing
Rash on my mirror
Rash on my bar end and brake lever
And my handle bars are no longer straight
2 helmets were secured to the bike at the time, and both are now write offs

She asked if I would respectfully accept cash instead of going through her insurance, but I don't think she realizes how much money she is in for. Although I agreed to accept cash, if I am confronted with any form of hesitation in payment I will be contacting insurance.

Any opinions or insight would be appreciated.

Dave
 
I would offer her to pay at least 50% of my bike's value.
 
Depends how much she's willing to give you! My friend got cut off by a car and crashed. His bike was a write-off. He said going through insurance was a pain in the ***, and he barely got anything for it.
 
Parked in a regular parking spot, at the back and across the spot as a bike should be. I watch in horror as this lady begins to reverse park into the spot my bike is in. I gave her the benefit of the doubt hoping she was aiming for one of the empty spots to either side of my bike. However, this was not the case, as she continued to back into my bike and pushed it over.

Damages include:
2 large cracks in my rear fairing
Rash on my Akrapovic carbon fibre exhaust
Rash on my right fairing
Rash on my mirror
Rash on my bar end and brake lever
And my handle bars are no longer straight
2 helmets were secured to the bike at the time, and both are now write offs

She asked if I would respectfully accept cash instead of going through her insurance, but I don't think she realizes how much money she is in for. Although I agreed to accept cash, if I am confronted with any form of hesitation in payment I will be contacting insurance.

Any opinions or insight would be appreciated.

Dave

I have good and bad stories to share with you:

The bad: 1st accident I got into, woman cut me off, I went down. She agreed to pay, said sorry in front of witnesses. 2 hours later she called and changed her mind! I was young and just started riding and was too scared to report it to insurance. I absorbed the cost over the winter.

The good:
1) Woman reversed over my bike across the parking lot. I had just stepped away from it and didn't even get into the store. Turn around bike on its side, messed up, alarm going off, and her getting out of the car to inspect it. When I got to her, she claimed "you parked it that way, I didn't knock it over".

I exploded calling her every name in the book and threatened to f*ck her insurance sooooo bad unless she gave me cash as per my estimate immediately. There was a bank machine in site. She called he husband immediately and he calmed me down over the phone and gave me all his details. He instructed her to pay the maximum the machine would allow (£300). I told him the damage is likely to be £500. He said to bring him the receipt and he would pay the rest. He was true to his word and paid!

2) My wife hit a van. Van driver was upset with her. She called me and handed over the phone. He was not pleased and I promised I would be over right after work to pay him cash. Which I did. He was not thankful, he was expecting it, which was fair of him.

3) Cyclist ran a red in the night in the rain. I couldn't avoid him. I hit him. We both went down. I got up and grabbed him so he couldn't speed away. I threatened to sue him in small claims for causing the accident if he didn't pay. He promised he would pay and begged me not to tell his wife. He was straight up and paid me £1700 in damages in 2 instalments over 2 weeks.


The lesson I learned is that settling up is expected and the man-up thing to do, it is not extra! Nor is it the sweet thing to do. I am not happy if someone settles my costs, I am merely kept from exploding. There is also inconvenience costs and lucky that no one was physically injured. So for me, I don't go soft on them until they pay up in full.

I full on threaten and never show a soft nice side. That being said, in all those cases it was clearly 1 sided and both sides knew it! which is the case with you.

I advise not going soft or being patient. I advise being very angry and intimidating. Because the reality is, if she changes her mind, especially since you didn't report it to the police immediately (i'm assuming) and nor did you to the insurance company, she could easily back out now and you're screwed.

From the off I give them two choices: a) Money as per my estimate immediately (which is hit or miss depending on how good you are at estimating) or b) I screw their insurance.

If they agree on the spot, which is what I did with the cyclist and the lady who knocked over my bike, I make them write a letter on any piece of paper I can find, stating they will pay me with their signature, date and a witness signature. So if they punk out in the future I can take them to small claims for breach of contract.


Now here is the scary part....in the case of the cyclist who ran the red light and caused the accident....I went to report the whole thing to the police station 2 hours later. The cop was busy dealing with shootings in the area, and I waited an hour. When I asked what I could do in small claims, the officer said "nothing, the cyclist didn't do anything wrong". I said "He ran a red light, while cycling on the road and he has to follow the rules of the road, either that or he was jaywalking then (as a pedestrian). Either way you look at it, it's his fault" The cop said "Weeeeeeell, the charge won't stick, it's no big deal to run the red light. You will be lucky to get anything out of the cyclist". This was in the UK by the way.

So go with threats and bluffs and anger and a commitment in writing super fast!
 
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Parked in a regular parking spot, at the back and across the spot as a bike should be. I watch in horror as this lady begins to reverse park into the spot my bike is in. I gave her the benefit of the doubt hoping she was aiming for one of the empty spots to either side of my bike. However, this was not the case, as she continued to back into my bike and pushed it over.

Damages include:
2 large cracks in my rear fairing
Rash on my Akrapovic carbon fibre exhaust
Rash on my right fairing
Rash on my mirror
Rash on my bar end and brake lever
And my handle bars are no longer straight
2 helmets were secured to the bike at the time, and both are now write offs

She asked if I would respectfully accept cash instead of going through her insurance, but I don't think she realizes how much money she is in for. Although I agreed to accept cash, if I am confronted with any form of hesitation in payment I will be contacting insurance.

Any opinions or insight would be appreciated.

Dave

I'm guessing the lady will have to spend $2000, if not more, to fix the damages to your bike. When you tell her the cost, she might decide to go through insurance.
 
lol seriously, a knocked bike costs $2,000? So that means I would probably walked away from one if I'm the one that knocks one over.
 
When someone does something this stupid I always go through insurance. Simple reason is they need to learn a lesson and not going through insurance just increases your (my) risk of not getting all the money.

The only time I give anyone a break anymore is if it was a total fluke accident and I have basically no damage. Any truck or SUV is pretty much an automatic insurance claim because they always do big damage.
 
lol seriously, a knocked bike costs $2,000? So that means I would probably walked away from one if I'm the one that knocks one over.

I had a brand new 2003 R6 that a lady backed over on the street. Repair cost to put back to new was over $5000. Was that necessary for the bike to operate? Not at all, but why shouldn't I have my new bike mint as it was before the accident.
 
A knocked over sport bike can be written off due to cost of replacing bodywork....not even having mech damage.

Did you get her ins. details just in case? If you have her info, and it comes down to it, your ins. will pay even if you only have liability....as long as she was at fault...as in this case. If she doesn't get the $ to you asap, go thru insurance.
 
I have good and bad stories to share with you:

The bad: 1st accident I got into, woman cut me off, I went down. She agreed to pay, said sorry in front of witnesses. 2 hours later she called and changed her mind! I was young and just started riding and was too scared to report it to insurance. I absorbed the cost over the winter.

The good:
1) Woman reversed over my bike across the parking lot. I had just stepped away from it and didn't even get into the store. Turn around bike on its side, messed up, alarm going off, and her getting out of the car to inspect it. When I got to her, she claimed "you parked it that way, I didn't knock it over".

I exploded calling her every name in the book and threatened to f*ck her insurance sooooo bad unless she gave me cash as per my estimate immediately. There was a bank machine in site. She called he husband immediately and he calmed me down over the phone and gave me all his details. He instructed her to pay the maximum the machine would allow (£300). I told him the damage is likely to be £500. He said to bring him the receipt and he would pay the rest. He was true to his word and paid!

2) My wife hit a van. Van driver was upset with her. She called me and handed over the phone. He was not pleased and I promised I would be over right after work to pay him cash. Which I did. He was not thankful, he was expecting it, which was fair of him.

3) Cyclist ran a red in the night in the rain. I couldn't avoid him. I hit him. We both went down. I got up and grabbed him so he couldn't speed away. I threatened to sue him in small claims for causing the accident if he didn't pay. He promised he would pay and begged me not to tell his wife. He was straight up and paid me £1700 in damages in 2 instalments over 2 weeks.


The lesson I learned is that settling up is expected and the man-up thing to do, it is not extra! Nor is it the sweet thing to do. I am not happy if someone settles my costs, I am merely kept from exploding. There is also inconvenience costs and lucky that no one was physically injured. So for me, I don't go soft on them until they pay up in full.

I full on threaten and never show a soft nice side. That being said, in all those cases it was clearly 1 sided and both sides knew it! which is the case with you.

I advise not going soft or being patient. I advise being very angry and intimidating. Because the reality is, if she changes her mind, especially since you didn't report it to the police immediately (i'm assuming) and nor did you to the insurance company, she could easily back out now and you're screwed.

From the off I give them two choices: a) Money as per my estimate immediately (which is hit or miss depending on how good you are at estimating) or b) I screw their insurance.

If they agree on the spot, which is what I did with the cyclist and the lady who knocked over my bike, I make them write a letter on any piece of paper I can find, stating they will pay me with their signature, date and a witness signature. So if they punk out in the future I can take them to small claims for breach of contract.


Now here is the scary part....in the case of the cyclist who ran the red light and caused the accident....I went to report the whole thing to the police station 2 hours later. The cop was busy dealing with shootings in the area, and I waited an hour. When I asked what I could do in small claims, the officer said "nothing, the cyclist didn't do anything wrong". I said "He ran a red light, while cycling on the road and he has to follow the rules of the road, either that or he was jaywalking then (as a pedestrian). Either way you look at it, it's his fault" The cop said "Weeeeeeell, the charge won't stick, it's no big deal to run the red light. You will be lucky to get anything out of the cyclist". This was in the UK by the way.

So go with threats and bluffs and anger and a commitment in writing super fast!

Although the contract thing is a good idea they are notoriously fickle things in real life. All someone has to do is say that they signed under duress to nullify it (under the circumstances this could easily be claimed). I'm also wondering if the "back out" clause applies for all contracts too (like those for third party gas suppliers, etc).
 
lol seriously, a knocked bike costs $2,000? So that means I would probably walked away from one if I'm the one that knocks one over.

U.S. prices from powersportspro.com
2 large cracks in my rear fairing 333.60
Rash on my Akrapovic carbon fibre exhaust 549.99 (e-Bay)
Rash on my right fairing 467.88
Rash on my mirror 80.70
Rash on my bar end and brake lever 37.68 (12.80 + 24.88 )
And my handle bars are no longer straight
Not sure if you mean alignment of front end or
bent bars but if bent bars..............................111.33
2 helmets - Lets say 500.00 for the pair???
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Total for only those parts listed would be 2081.18
If this came into the shop for an insurance estimate you could very easily count on double +++. Any scratches where the car contacted the bike on the left side would also be covered, scratches on footpegs Etc + all labour.
Asking for $2000.00 cash is not unreasonable at all, but be quick about it. have her pay within 24 hours or report. My $.02

P.S. to O.P. I'm assuming all these prices based on a CBR600F4 as in your "about me"
 
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Although the contract thing is a good idea they are notoriously fickle things in real life. All someone has to do is say that they signed under duress to nullify it (under the circumstances this could easily be claimed). I'm also wondering if the "back out" clause applies for all contracts too (like those for third party gas suppliers, etc).

If that's the case then I got lucky.....and I recommend screwing their insurance!

And if you have a brand new bike that goes down, then you are within your rights to have a brand new bike restored!
 
Don't be dumb. go thru insurance. She can still file after she pays you some cash.... to get her paint fixed and down the road its your fault lol....
 
lol seriously, a knocked bike costs $2,000? So that means I would probably walked away from one if I'm the one that knocks one over.

Fifteen years ago I got hit from behind, at a stop light, and the bike went down on it's right side with a bit of a slide. That was over $3K in damage. I can't imagine that things have become any cheaper, since then.

My advice is to go through insurance. When the woman sees the bill, she isn't likely going to want to pay it. People, who don't ride, have absolutely no idea of how much things cost.
 
file accident report and go through insurance.

Once you take that cash you have little recourse if the damage is greater than you first believed.
 
I had a guy rear end me when I was at a dead stop hard enough to knock me down and push me forward a foot or two.The guy profusely appologised and promised to pay the damages.I called him later that day and his parents answered the phone and started with the "we dont speak english and we don't know where he" is ********.A day later I get a hold of the guy and tell him this is going to cost at least $3000(final repair bill from Snow City was $5300).He starts humming and hawing and asks me to get three estimates and he was too busy to tallk and will call me back in an hour.Three hours go buy and I don't hear from the guy so I did what I should have done in the first place and went to the accident reporting station to report it.My point is that if it isn't your fault you don't need the ******** and inconvenience and most people that say they will pay you will balk when they get the bill.By then you are screwed and have little to no recourse if they decide not to pay you.I've heard of it happening a thousand times to people I know.
 
i hope you got the other person's plate and insurance info. as a just in case ?
 
I advise not going soft or being patient. I advise being very angry and intimidating. Because the reality is, if she changes her mind, especially since you didn't report it to the police immediately (i'm assuming) and nor did you to the insurance company, she could easily back out now and you're screwed.

This is what I would worry about. In any case, you can still report it to the cops right? The insurance bit comes afterwards. I think its best to report it regardless as thats doing the sensible cover-your-**** thing to do. Once its been reported by you, its then up to you to handle it with insurance or off the books.
 

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