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Too much front brake

Holy ****!!! , that bastard ran right infront of him! he's lucky he was wearing gear and wasnt going that fast.
 
Must have had the ABS disabled. I didn't even see the pedestrian, the first time I watched it.
 
lol looks like the asymmetrical headlights REALLY balanced the bike. can't tip it even if you stoppie it onto the roof :eek:
 
The front brakes work.

Nice of everyone to let him lay there with a bike laying on top of him.
 
damn, that could be a crushed pelvis... dangerous
 
kickstartt said:
damn, that could be a crushed pelvis... dangerous
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Yeah, the rider looked a bit messed up to me... ouch.

Apparently one of the many vehicular problems Russia has are people jumping in front of vehicles to fake an injury, somehow enabling an extortion scheme. The pedestrian was nearly awarded an actual faceful of motorcycle.
 
I agree he must have turned the ABS off because if it was on that should not have happened.
 
Even if the ABS is on, couldn't this still happen? As long as the front tire doesn't skid you should still get full braking force, as long as the computer doesn't take pitch of the bike in to account.
 
rmemedic said:
Even if the ABS is on, couldn't this still happen? As long as the front tire doesn't skid you should still get full braking force, as long as the computer doesn't take pitch of the bike in to account.
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It likely has a race mode, but should also be comparing the front and rear tires' speeds.
 
Poor BMW :(

Gixxer6 said:
The front brakes work.

Nice of everyone to let him lay there with a bike laying on top of him.
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If you aren't properly trained and don't know what you're doing or aren't even confident in helping..... don't touch me.

I would rather have a 350lb bike sit on me (it's not like the full weight was on him since it was pretty much standing up on its own) than have one nincompoop pull me out and injure me further or push the bike on top of me and break something else.
 
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Gixxer6 said:
Nice of everyone to let him lay there with a bike laying on top of him.
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I'd rather have the casual, paced assistance they seem to give in Russia over the panicked frantic type we get here, where most people seem to think that the best thing to do if you fall down is to stand yourself up again as quickly as possible.
 
fastar1 said:
I'd rather have the casual, paced assistance they seem to give in Russia over the panicked frantic type we get here, where most people seem to think that the best thing to do if you fall down is to stand yourself up again as quickly as possible.
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But "walk it off" is right up there in North American cultural icons, along with "that'll buff right out"!
 
rmemedic said:
Even if the ABS is on, couldn't this still happen? As long as the front tire doesn't skid you should still get full braking force, as long as the computer doesn't take pitch of the bike in to account.
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Good point on the ABS.

For this to happen tho, you still have to disable/switch off something like some level of traction control. Otherwise, that bike has so much electronics - I think they call one of the buttons on the dash as 'wheelie button' and one other as 'stoppie'.
 
fastar1 said:
I'd rather have the casual, paced assistance they seem to give in Russia over the panicked frantic type we get here, where most people seem to think that the best thing to do if you fall down is to stand yourself up again as quickly as possible.
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We had a really scary, nasty looking crash a few weeks ago. Throttle of a bike got pinned WOT over the finish line jump, lost control, hit a bike and rider that were waiting to go in to the pits and then him and the bike continued in to the crowd. Bikes, parts, people were all over the place, but one woman took the bike full force.
I was the first person there to start my scene assessment and start doing care on the woman (pretty sad considering I had to cross the track and there were people right beside her). She was "ok" and I was just making sure everything was good, but this one woman was FREAKING out, and she was making the scene way more stressful than it needed to be. Looked up at her, said "You need to calm the F*%^& down or leave". She shut up and then the scene was calmer. People that freak out way too easy really bothers me.
 
Rob MacLennan said:
It would still monitor wheel speed and if there was a radical drop from speed, to stop, it would assume you were skidding.
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Well, I think the difference between the small angle stoppie and max breaking without stoppie is so small that the tracking of 'radical drop from speed' would be very complex for breaks at different speeds, ESPECIALLY if you consider that the curves of the 'radical drop from speed' graph would be greatly different with different tyres.

I would imagine that there is a gravity sensor type of thing, but then what do I know =) I didn't even complete Mechanical Eng 2nd year lol dropout here =)

edit: Thinking more, running a different diameter tire at explicitly front or back (I think they run bigger tires at the back on MotoGP) would f up all the calculations as well.
Also, just re-read your post, and it says at the end "skidding". Did you mean pulling a stoppie ?
 
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whetaus-tr said:
Well, I think the difference between the small angle stoppie and max breaking without stoppie is so small that the tracking of 'radical drop from speed' would be very complex for breaks at different speeds, ESPECIALLY if you consider that the curves of the 'radical drop from speed' graph would be greatly different with different tyres.

I would imagine that there is a gravity sensor type of thing, but then what do I know =) I didn't even complete Mechanical Eng 2nd year lol dropout here =)

edit: Thinking more, running a different diameter tire at explicitly front or back (I think they run bigger tires at the back on MotoGP) would f up all the calculations as well.
Also, just re-read your post, and it says at the end "skidding". Did you mean pulling a stoppie ?
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There would generally (though obviously not always) be some wheel slide in conjunction with a stoppie. That would mean the wheel goes from a few Kmh to zero, with no transition, which should trigger the ABS. In checking around I've found that wheel lift is detected in rain and power modes of the ABS, but not in race or slick modes. That's why this could happen. As I mentioned earlier, he was likely in race mode.
 
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