ticket for holding a cell phone while driving

gwelfmike said:
I have seen a lot of people using hands free devices and still not paying attention.
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This has more to with people's attention span/concentration rather then cell phone devices.
 
IF they are not on the cell phone, then they would not have an attention span/concentration problem, regardless of being hands free or not.

BLUE_KAWI said:
This has more to with people's attention span/concentration rather then cell phone devices.
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My wife was charged with with using a hand held device in Toronto last year. She went to court last week, cop didn't show, it got thrown out.

As far as the distracted driving, I don't buy it. I think these people are just poor drivers. I don"t blame the phone.
 
This law will be as effective as speed limits. No one follows them. It's just more revenue for the Govt and that's all the Govt cares about.
 
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Mekirker said:
My wife was charged with with using a hand held device in Toronto last year. She went to court last week, cop didn't show, it got thrown out.

As far as the distracted driving, I don't buy it. I think these people are just poor drivers. I don"t blame the phone.
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And I bet you believe in imaginary friends as well. Obviously proof has no effect on you.
 
Mekirker said:
My wife was charged with with using a hand held device in Toronto last year. She went to court last week, cop didn't show, it got thrown out.

As far as the distracted driving, I don't buy it. I think these people are just poor drivers. I don"t blame the phone.
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I guess looking down at your phone and texting or checking whos calling you isn't taking your eyes off the road then.
 
murf said:
I better not look down at the radio, or speedometer then!
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Actually I could show you what happens when you look at the radio. A quarter of my bumper missing from a chunk of ice that I could have avoided, had I seen it sooner.

And speedometer is hardly comparable to reading a text or dialing a number.
 
murf said:
I better not look down at the radio, or speedometer then!
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You can tell your speed at a glance to your speedometer. Can you type, or even read a sentence at a glance?
 
unfortunately most people are not good judges on when it's a really bad time to look at their phone and text. i see looking at a text no different than reading the info off of a gps

in traffic is obviously a bad time, i don't even look at my speedometer in heavy traffic, i'm going with the flow (which is usually slow), never mind my gps or a phone, they don't exist at that point. no traffic around me with good 20 seconds of sight and it's not as hazardous, i might glance at my phone to see who's calling to see if it's worth stopping if i don't have a headset on, though some people don't have the skill to pull even that off. thus we have a law for the lowest common denominator. talking on the phone is no more distracting than a person in the car with you, hell you might look over at the person as regular part of conversation (ever have a conversation with a toucher? how do they talk & drive?) some people can juggle, some can ride a unicycle, some can do both and some can do both at the same time, some can't walk and chew gum. we should be putting these revenues gained into better testing for licences to keep those that can not walk & chew gum out of the driver's seat.
 
Talking on a phone IS different than talking to a passenger. The person on the phone has NO idea what is going on around you, while the person in the car can SHUT UP if the need arises.
 
From the insurance standpoint, any ticket that ends up on your MVR is rated for - regardless of demerit points, or how much, if anything, you paid for the fine. In most cases, having one or two of these minors on your record (they stay on for 3 years after the settlement date) doesn't do a whole lot of damage to the rates - you're still considered a "low-risk" driver and can continue to get very competitive rates. However, as soon as you cross over that line of 3+ minors, you suddenly become a "high-risk" driver, and most competitive insurance companies will not insure you. You have to go to a sub-standard market and pay considerably more until the your driving record clears up. I've seen (and insured) some unfortunate cases where an individual had 3+ minor tickets, all being something the general public would consider insignificant (cell phone, fail to carry slips), and yet the premiums ended up being double the normal rates. Other issues can also arise when you have one or two minors, coupled with an at-fault accident in the last 6years, or coupled with a cancellation for non-payment.

What I am trying to say is, these tickets can negatively impact your insurance rates and coverages and yet they are so easily preventable.
 
I got a ticket for this.. Insurance didn't care.. I specifically asked them about it.. They said its no different to them than a parking ticket.

This is with state farm
 
BLUE_KAWI said:
This has more to with people's attention span/concentration rather then cell phone devices.
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BINGO!!! I can't have a conversation with a passenger (let alone a phone conversation) because I'm focused on the conditions and drivers around me.

Mekirker is right, many of these drivers are outright horrible whether or not they're on the phone.
 
I hate people who think they're above the law and that they're so important the law doesn't apply to them.

Get off you darn cell phones when driving! Regardless whether you think you are a great driver who can talk and drive at the same time.
 
geoff-9 said:
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They also mentioned they'll nab you if you're eating since it counts as distracted driving...
How am I gonna finish my lunch tacos? Seriously...soup isn't a distraction, it's a culinary delight!



theres no offence for this. distracted driving s.78 is very specific about what it covers.
the only thing they could charge you with is careless driving - but that wouldnt last 5 minutes in court.
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Out of curiosity, is there a law to keep both hands on the steering wheel in Canada (unless changing gears on standard, turning lights on etc)?
 
DownUnder said:
Out of curiosity, is there a law to keep both hands on the steering wheel in Canada (unless changing gears on standard, turning lights on etc)?
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I think the law would probably fall under the careless/dangerous driving charge if you're driving with no hands. There would be too many exceptions if there were a law to have both hands on the wheel.
 
imnothng said:
Talking on a phone IS different than talking to a passenger. The person on the phone has NO idea what is going on around you, while the person in the car can SHUT UP if the need arises.
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If talking doesn't take away from one's concentration then why not give your favourite throttle jockey a ring as he enters turn three? Do chess masters chat a bit on the side? Golfers about to tee off don't mind some chit chat much do they?

Bottom line is that a quick "Hi honey I'll be home in a half hour" is totally different than an in depth financial or technical discussion where one has to mentally envision being in a different location.
 
CruisnGrrl said:
unfortunately most people are not good judges on when it's a really bad time to look at their phone and text. i see looking at a text no different than reading the info off of a gps

in traffic is obviously a bad time, i don't even look at my speedometer in heavy traffic, i'm going with the flow (which is usually slow), never mind my gps or a phone, they don't exist at that point. no traffic around me with good 20 seconds of sight and it's not as hazardous, i might glance at my phone to see who's calling to see if it's worth stopping if i don't have a headset on, though some people don't have the skill to pull even that off. thus we have a law for the lowest common denominator. talking on the phone is no more distracting than a person in the car with you, hell you might look over at the person as regular part of conversation (ever have a conversation with a toucher? how do they talk & drive?) some people can juggle, some can ride a unicycle, some can do both and some can do both at the same time, some can't walk and chew gum. we should be putting these revenues gained into better testing for licences to keep those that can not walk & chew gum out of the driver's seat.
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Heavy Traffic? In Trenton?!? :confused:

Did the other car stop in the middle of the road?
 
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