On the Honda 500r redline is 8500 and limiter is set at 9000ish. You can raise the rev limit, but power is still between those numbers. You can also remove the factory 6th gear speed limiter.
I haven't ridden a 500, my last experience on a Honda was maybe an NC750x (or 700, can't remember) with a 6500 rpm redline. Barf. Cars rev higher than that. 9000 isn't so bad.
My buddy rode a honda 300r to Pennsylvania with us last year....about 150k of it on 400 series or the equivalent...he was fine. But my other buddy on the Ninja 300 was much happier above 120k per hour in terms of power. Having said that he then bought an XSR so what do i know.
Every now and then I see a little ninja 250 hauling ass just zipping away with all shes got on the 400's
A sight to behold and a chuckle at the same time
If that was 3 years ago... might have been me! I used to beat that little horse from Markham to Pointe au Baril a few times each summer. When I stopped for a break, other bikers would come up to look at the tiny bike that blew past them. At 130kmh I could go 360km/tank, over 461km if I dialed her back below 90.
If that was 3 years ago... might have been me! I used to beat that little horse from Markham to Pointe au Baril a few times each summer. When I stopped for a break, other bikers would come up to look at the tiny bike that blew past them. At 130kmh I could go 360km/tank, over 461km if I dialed her back below 90.
My definition of more versatile: Being able to take it on trips (i.e to tobermory etc... 100% doable on a 125, but im 6'1 so after a few hours im feeling crunched up... also have to tuck to do over 90kmh). Additionally, being able to drive to my mums place in Midland, ON (about 200km from Toronto) so I Can stop taking the god damn GO Train.
Having a naked bike myself, I will say that if you plan to do highway driving, try and get a bike that comes with a windshield or get an after market one fitted atleast.
I'm 5'8 and despite tucking myself in as much as possible, the wind hitting my chest for 30+ mins at speeds 100kms+always took a toll on me.
With my aftermarket windshield, its not as bad as before - however I can feel the wind over the top of my helmet when I tuck in to pass other vehicles on the highway.
Oh, and hope you use a good pair of ear plugs!
I don't think you will regret this bike category..
Sounds like I may actually get what I need out of the 300r after all. Just debating on whether or not I can haggle dealers below the new price with $1k rebate, or if I should hunt around for used ones.
Sounds like I may actually get what I need out of the 300r after all. Just debating on whether or not I can haggle dealers below the new price with $1k rebate, or if I should hunt around for used ones.
Dont think about it too much. Push the dealer's and see where you get. If new pricing doesnt work, then looked for used. January credit card bills should bring some bikes on the market.
Come to think of it in my experience ... buying a brand new bike still in the crate beat all the normal deals I got from dealerships.
If you can buy one like that without the dealer doing his pre-delivery at your expense and stealing stuff out of the crate, that would be a bonus.
& good luck finding a deal that will do that with anything other then a competition bike.
Sounds like I may actually get what I need out of the 300r after all. Just debating on whether or not I can haggle dealers below the new price with $1k rebate, or if I should hunt around for used ones.
If it were me I'd look for a good used bike. Most 300s are interim bikes for developing riders, much like your 125 was for you. Master it then make a move so you can up the experience. It's rare to see these bikes worn out, lots have under 10K on the clock and will sell for $3K or just over. In addition if you feel like a change, you're not clobbered with a ton of depreciation on something you owned for a year.
I haven't ridden a 500, my last experience on a Honda was maybe an NC750x (or 700, can't remember) with a 6500 rpm redline. Barf. Cars rev higher than that. 9000 isn't so bad.
NC = new concept
was largely manufactured using parts they had on the shelf including it being based on 2 cylinders off a really small fuel efficient honda car motor.
The rear brake disc is made out of the centre of the front brake disc which was also a very clever cost saving measure.
Given the reaming you're already taking on the insurance, go with the smallest bike that you can be happy with. Paying $300/month for insurance is crazy, I know because I payed similar rates to what you're paying now back in my day (which would probably be the same as paying $300+/month now), but that was for an 1100cc! If you want to get away from the SS look then check out the CB300f. It should give you a noticeable bump in power, more room/comfort and still stay somewhat sane as far as insurance goes.
Given the reaming you're already taking on the insurance, go with the smallest bike that you can be happy with. Paying $300/month for insurance is crazy, I know because I payed similar rates to what you're paying now back in my day (which would probably be the same as paying $300+/month now), but that was for an 1100cc! If you want to get away from the SS look then check out the CB300f. It should give you a noticeable bump in power, more room/comfort and still stay somewhat sane as far as insurance goes.
If im going 300, ill get the 300r. Apparently its lighter and faster than the f that it replaced. Also aesthetically is spot on to what I want.
Found some 500f's within my budget. Getting M&W to contact me re quoting the 300r and 500f - that will be the deciding factor between those bikes likely. 500 would be nicer long run, 300r would be a good upgrade if thats all I can afford insurance wise.
If you end up going with the 300r that is a big chunk of change to spend on a bike, especially a 300. Very nice bike though. In a few years, someone is going to love you for taking the big hit on depreciation! I have a hard time paying for a brand new bike when so many well maintained and gently ridden used bikes are out there.
If you end up going with the 300r that is a big chunk of change to spend on a bike, especially a 300. Very nice bike though. In a few years, someone is going to love you for taking the big hit on depreciation! I have a hard time paying for a brand new bike when so many well maintained and gently ridden used bikes are out there.
True, full price on it is high ish, though theres a $1k rebate now, and its within my budget all things considered. Realistically if I have to get it new I will be holding onto it for a good long while. Something that good looking won't fall out of favor with me any time soon. Maybe I'll even be able to find a 300r used next spring and avoid getting it new.
Still hoping insurance on a 500f isn't gonna bite too hard as that would be the ideal long term choice.
True, full price on it is high ish, though theres a $1k rebate now, and its within my budget all things considered. Realistically if I have to get it new I will be holding onto it for a good long while. Something that good looking won't fall out of favor with me any time soon. Maybe I'll even be able to find a 300r used next spring and avoid getting it new.
Still hoping insurance on a 500f isn't gonna bite too hard as that would be the ideal long term choice.
The difference between insuring a 300 and 500 shouldn't be a whole lot. You might also consider the economics of the deal -- you can find low mileage CB500s in the sub $3500 range, then use the savings to fund insurance for a year or two. I'm with Morrisey on the depredation costs, there are always lots of low mile beginner bikes for sale. Honda's are bulletproof reliable so unless the bike has been abused, I'd expect 5 years and up to 100,000km of trouble free riding on a CB500.
The difference between insuring a 300 and 500 shouldn't be a whole lot. You might also consider the economics of the deal -- you can find low mileage CB500s in the sub $3500 range, then use the savings to fund insurance for a year or two. I'm with Morrisey on the depredation costs, there are always lots of low mile beginner bikes for sale. Honda's are bulletproof reliable so unless the bike has been abused, I'd expect 5 years and up to 100,000km of trouble free riding on a CB500.
Don't forget if you are going new, the freight and admin is extra...quick search on Kijiji shows dealers giving the 1k rebate then adding it back in fees...
This seems to be the cheapest new one on Kijiji in Ontario:
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If you don't want to go to Belleville use the ad to negotiate with a local dealer. It's winter, you might be surprised what they will take to sell a bike.
That's a nice bike, not the most powerful small bike but at only 315 lbs it doesn't need to be. I had one chasing me on the Forks one day on my vfr, watching him in the mirror he looked like he was having a blast, big stupid grin on his face lol.
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