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The goat retires
- Thread starter bigpoppa
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This has been years coming, he hasn't been competitive for a long time.
Despite this, ticket sales and viewership will plummet after he leaves. He was and still is motorcycling's most marketable athlete.
Forza Vale!
Despite this, ticket sales and viewership will plummet after he leaves. He was and still is motorcycling's most marketable athlete.
Forza Vale!
He will wild card for Mugello or Misano next year is my guess.
Priller
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The Italians seem to think so. When I was trying to figure out accommodation for a now-abandoned Mugello trip next year, all the spots in nearby Scarperia were holding out booking in hopes of a farewell tour.
If he doesn't wild card, there will still be some kind of massive goodbye. It's hard to overstate the love for him in that part of the world...
Was a few races short of Ago's total wins record (117 vs 122), but that was a different time when it was entirely possible to compete in different classes during the same race weekend. Much much harder to do in the modern era.
I get the feeling Rossi was just holding on these past few years trying to bag those last five race wins to better Ago. He is a bit obsessive about records and stats.
As for MM93, IMO he is a better natural rider than Rossi. VR46 always needed a season to get used to a new bike/class before he started dominating. Marquez started winning right from the get-go between bikes and classes. If he hadn't injured himself, he probably would have surpassed all of Rossi's records, for sure.
As far as marketability though, Rossi will always be the GOAT. No doubt about it.
Was that the huge get off in practice or qualifying where the bike ended up w/o a rear tire? Seems like after that he struggled to be a front runner.
I doubt it's true but it was like he got spooked real good and just couldn't ride at 110% like he used to.
Talking about Jerez 2020 race when he broke his arm trying to scythe his way through the feel after falling down the order.
Marc Marquez Jerez 2020 Highside
He said that that the initial injury wasn't the main issue, it was trying to race 5 days later, which aggravated the original injury. The big problem was the infections and additional surgeries as a result of the second weekend. If he had allowed his original injuries to heal, he probably would have recovered a lot sooner.
Racers never go back to "fearless" mode after a serious injury. Rossi was never the same again after he broke his leg, which incidentally was his first major injury. Same with Lorenzo, he displayed PTSD every time it rained.
BigEvilDoer
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Well, I just looked back at 2010 and compared his pace to now...
To be honest, he's not really any slower. Everyone else has just picked the pace up. Next generation is all I can say.
He's been great to watch, lots of charisma... the MotoGP world will be lesser without him, but where-ever he goes, it will be a plus for them.
To be honest, he's not really any slower. Everyone else has just picked the pace up. Next generation is all I can say.
He's been great to watch, lots of charisma... the MotoGP world will be lesser without him, but where-ever he goes, it will be a plus for them.
That's down to the machinery though. A lot has improved in the last decade, suspension, tires, electronics, etc. It's a sign of age if you can't make the most of new technology when it becomes available to you - while everyone else around you is able to capitalize on it...
Priller
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Agostini was also on factory machinery while most of the competition were privateers running out of the back of a van on a shoestring budget. Different era indeed.
Despite not having nearly as many wins, I still think there's at least a case to be made for Doohan as GOAT, if only because his era of racing had so many injuries from those savage 500s. Nobody stayed healthy long enough to get anywhere near 100+ wins...
DownUnder
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The 500cc class in the 90s was awesome to watch. No traction control/wheelie control/latte machine built in, rubber technology not quite there, and bikes that actively tried to kill their riders. Whole fields of amazing riders, made watching races a nail-biting experience.
What's with the utube? My vid comes up as unavailable to me. Can others view it?
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