Then the driver was going to fast for the road conditions.
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The Bad Drivers of Ontario Thread
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Then the driver was going to fast for the road conditions.
I've seen lots of such roads posted at 40-50 Kmh. If that's the posted limit and the driver is travelling at such a speed then it's valid for conditions and the cyclist is in the wrong. Moving slow? Keep to the right, as required. Again, see previous posts.
Replace bicycle with tractor. By your logic it's the tractor's fault if someone crests a hill and runs into it.
Everyone and their grandmother knows the posted limits don't apply to all conditions or on every part of an entire road.
Tractors generally travel off to the right anyway, in my experience, unless they are towing a piece of equipment that requires otherwise. They seem to be both more intelligent and less entitled than the sort of Tour de France cyclists I see on those roads. Also, most farm equipment travels on flat roads, since that's where the farms are.
Key word in that sentence: most. I see lots of farm equipment on this road daily. Only an idiot would try pass a cyclist here. A runner, pedestrian, dog walker, slow down to a crawl.
And back to posted limits. The limit here is 50kmh.
Only an idiot would go over that crest at anything more than 5kmh. It goes to one lane 20 feet past it, and if anything is coming the other way just over the crest, you will hit it head on, and you will be at fault (look up your highway traffic act you like to quote on the right of way at narrowing roads).
Every day I pass the same two women out power walking on Conc. #7. They walk two abreast. According to your precious HTA, they should fall into single file. They don't. I don't get bent out of shape. I go all the way over to the opposing lane. If there's someone coming the other way, I slow down and time it so I can do so. Guess what. They wave to me every day. Same with the 3 people I see walking their dogs every day. I go all the way over into the opposing lane, and they wave to me too. It's amazing what dropping the "I'm in a car, I'm the Alpha, and the HTA is on my side" attitude and adopting a bit of common sense/civility gets you in return.
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All of which doesn't apply to the stated situation in which a cyclist was riding down the middle of the main lane, when there was a bicycle lane.
There is no law that says you have to use a bicycle lane. There are a good majority of riders that won't use them. I have stated why previously. I'm not going to repeat it so you can be obtuse about it again.
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Actually, now that I think about it, I will. THIS is what passes for a bicycle lane in Aldershot. Ride in that @ 30kmh+ on 23mm tires at 110psi? Yeah, right.
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Actually, now that I think about it, I will. THIS is what passes for a bicycle lane in Aldershot. Ride in that @ 30kmh+ on 23mm tires at 110psi? Yeah, right.
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There is no law that says you have to use a bicycle lane. There are a good majority of riders that won't use them. I have stated why previously. I'm not going to repeat it so you can be obtuse about it again.
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Actually, now that I think about it, I will. THIS is what passes for a bicycle lane in Aldershot. Ride in that @ 30kmh+ on 23mm tires at 110psi? Yeah, right.
And yet you keep posting in such a way that I must repeatedly point you to HTA 147. Bicycles must turn out to the right, when approached from behind by faster moving vehicles. Where a bicycle lane is provided that is the safest place for them to be, as motor vehicles are barred from being in them. Where a danger exists, such as in the picture that you posted, they may move over to avoid it. It's not difficult.
Weave in and out of the bicycle lane in traffic? That has to be one of the worst pieces of advice I've seen in ages. You have absolutely no clue what you're talking about. With the added bonus of an air of (perceived) authority on the subject.
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Whatever. As you will.
Parking cars on top of trucks seems to be the new thing.
www.cp24.com
It happened shortly after 8:30 p.m. on the westbound ramp of Hwy. 407 at Derry Road. Police said the driver was speeding when the vehicle lost control on the ramp and rolled over. The vehicle then hit a hydro pole before hitting a concrete barrier and landing on top of a parked construction vehicle, police said
OPP investigating vehicle rollover on Hwy. 407 in Milton
The Ontario Provincial Police (OPP) is investigating after a vehicle rolled over on Highway 407 in Milton on Sunday night.
www.cp24.com
It happened shortly after 8:30 p.m. on the westbound ramp of Hwy. 407 at Derry Road. Police said the driver was speeding when the vehicle lost control on the ramp and rolled over. The vehicle then hit a hydro pole before hitting a concrete barrier and landing on top of a parked construction vehicle, police said
Parking cars on top of trucks seems to be the new thing.
OPP investigating vehicle rollover on Hwy. 407 in Milton
The Ontario Provincial Police (OPP) is investigating after a vehicle rolled over on Highway 407 in Milton on Sunday night.
It happened shortly after 8:30 p.m. on the westbound ramp of Hwy. 407 at Derry Road. Police said the driver was speeding when the vehicle lost control on the ramp and rolled over. The vehicle then hit a hydro pole before hitting a concrete barrier and landing on top of a parked construction vehicle, police said
Thankfully no one was hurt. Wondering how insurance works with this? If he is personally liable for the damage he caused or will his insurance cover the bill, especially because he was speeding.
Assuming there are no criminal charges (DUI or dangerous would be the most likely options), insurance should pick up the bill (which will be high for property damage with two vehicles, power work and barrier damage). If insurance didn't pay every time someone was over the speed limit, I doubt any crash would be covered.
Mad Mike
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You need to chill. I used to let cyclists get to me, now I just figure there are a few nutbar zealots who like motorcycling, ruin it for the rest.
We share the roads, we share the responsibility for safety. If you want drivers to follow the rules, then set a good example yourself. Cycling has some inherent dangers, cyclists exacerbate the problem with risky operation. Stop at stop signs and red lights. When bike lanes are moving slow, be a little patient and continue in the bike lane. Move right when being overtaken. Don't ride on sidewalks.
Mad Mike
Well-known member
Actually there is, Section 148 of the HTA applies to both cyclists and cars. It requires cyclists to turn out to the right to allow faster moving vehicles to overtake them. I could easily negotiate the 1/2meter space between the grate and the lane -- I'd give you a pass on using the road around the grate if your cycling skills would otherwise jeopardize your safety.There is no law that says you have to use a bicycle lane. There are a good majority of riders that won't use them. I have stated why previously. I'm not going to repeat it so you can be obtuse about it again.
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Actually, now that I think about it, I will. THIS is what passes for a bicycle lane in Aldershot. Ride in that @ 30kmh+ on 23mm tires at 110psi? Yeah, right.
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