Tesla Self-driving LIDARs dont' detect motorcycles!

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I was going with traffic in Left lane of 404 near Hwy 7, following the car ahead in the right tire track. A white Tesla 3 behind me passed me in my lane. I barely had time to move to the Right. The driver(?) hardly swerved. I get really nervous, then upset with a car next to me, in MY lane.
As I caught up to him, he motioned that he had no control. The car was self-driving. He then turned it off and dropped back.

See USA Today post: Tesla was in full self-driving mode when it fatally hit Seattle-area motorcyclist: Police
These Tesla Self-driving Lidars don't detect motorcycles! I need a rear dashcam and a Tesla Alarm.
 
The problem started when they marketed "self driving" cars as auto pilot.
Auto pilot in a plane requires two (at least) highly trained pilots, a host of aircraft controllers, and at least two handlers when rolling on the ground, backed by more computing power than god... to operate "autonomously"...mostly in empty sky
... and the Tesla 'tards think their idiot car can steer through a busy city, without monitoring
It's not the car's fault. Google gave up on the system as unworkable... then Elon buddy bought it and put it in his cars. This was less about "self driving" cars as much as musk trying to be a "disrupter"
 
Tesla Self-driving means after it clears the obstacle in the lane (Me), it will not stop or call 911, but will drive itself home!
Self-driving or not, one should never rear-end anyone at routine traffic speed. Tesla 3 are cheaper, so many can afford them. Load them up with lazy options and now they think they are snoozing King of the Road.
Tesla is now a Chinese car right? I tried my Chevy with Adaptive Cruise Control. It sensed a motorcycle and kept distance!
 
Nauticat said:
Self-driving or not, one should never rear-end anyone at routine traffic speed.
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And yet, it is one of the most popular collisions
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Tesla is now a Chinese car right?
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The ones we get in Canada are assembled in China, American ones are assembled in the US... at least for now. From what I have heard, the Chinese ones are better (less problems... not NONE, just less) than the US ones. It doesn't help Tesla that the folks working at the US Tesla plants and service centers are very vocal about how bad their cars are... and it doesn't help when Elon buddy goes on x (formally Twitter) and blows up on them, amplifying the media coverage tenfold
 
Nauticat said:
I was going with traffic in Left lane of 404 near Hwy 7, following the car ahead in the right tire track. A white Tesla 3 behind me passed me in my lane. I barely had time to move to the Right. The driver(?) hardly swerved. I get really nervous, then upset with a car next to me, in MY lane.
As I caught up to him, he motioned that he had no control. The car was self-driving. He then turned it off and dropped back.

See USA Today post: Tesla was in full self-driving mode when it fatally hit Seattle-area motorcyclist: Police
These Tesla Self-driving Lidars don't detect motorcycles! I need a rear dashcam and a Tesla Alarm.
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Tesla ditched the actual distance measuring sensors long ago and went to pure image processing. It doesn't work well in many scenarios but they don't gaf. It should never have been allowed in public. Beta-testing on the backs of dead people should be the end of Tesla but so far they have dodged that axe.
 
bitzz said:
The problem started when they marketed "self driving" cars as auto pilot.
Auto pilot in a plane requires two (at least) highly trained pilots, a host of aircraft controllers, and at least two handlers when rolling on the ground, backed by more computing power than god... to operate "autonomously"...mostly in empty sky
... and the Tesla 'tards think their idiot car can steer through a busy city, without monitoring
It's not the car's fault. Google gave up on the system as unworkable... then Elon buddy bought it and put it in his cars. This was less about "self driving" cars as much as musk trying to be a "disrupter"
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A friend bought a Tesla and it came with self drive free for a month trial. It was interesting, driving better than most humans. Do I trust it? Nope.
 
In my experience, 9 out of 10 times when a car tries to get me to race from a stop light, it's a Tesla.
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no one tries to get a 300cc Honda to race them off the light 😏 but I've also learned to pretend a little and that gives me a nice gap to pull into ahead of the second car ( we filter from the bike lanes ).
I think all the Tesla drivers like the rush and to show it off.
The Tesla3 Performance does zero to ticketing speed in under 3 seconds.(60mph which is slightly over 100kph...the highest legal speed here) ...there is simply no point for a bike to challenge. I think aside from the fuel savings, the crazy acceleration is the secret sauce for EVs
 
I went for a ride Saturday and met some guys at Tim Horton's. As we were about to leave, a minivan started backing out of the spot across from where we were parked. As it crept closer to us, it didn't look like it was going to stop. We had to run up to it and bang on the van to get it to stop, which by then ended up only a couple of inches away from one of the bikes. If that was a Tesla, I'm pretty sure it would have just kept going and mowed down all of the bikes.
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