Tank slapper - again... getting pretty ****** off now..

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e90 said:
It is definitely not lowered at all.. so I highly doubt it.. I'm the second owner and the previous owner wouldn't have messed with the suspension.
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e90 said:
So I took a ride down to Milton today to chill out with Adrian at Ace Moto Tech - he looked the bike up and down and found a variety of issues - issues at the triple tree, random fairing bolts falling off loose, issues with the chain - it was pretty much dragging on the ground and needed MAJOR adjustment, evidence that the front suspension was tampered with etc.
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Awesome.
 
crankcall said:
yes its the pins and holes wearing, but its called chain stretch. Easier to say chain stretch than " my pins and holes have elongated and thusly required an adjustment", kind of like "my tire has equilized pressures with the ambient atmosphere" "oh, you have a flat?"
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I've only read briefly about the pins, so that's good to know. I've never seen a chain so bad that is was visually obvious.

bobjohnson said:
Let me guess, you were the kid who always had to correct the teacher?
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Nope and if you're a teacher, I doubt you're a good one since you explained nothing except that chains wear out. Brilliant.
 
Flywheel said:
Nope and if you're a teacher, I doubt you're a good one since you explained nothing except that chains wear out. Brilliant.
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Because the guy had a dangerously unsafe idea that his chain wouldnt wear out or need adjustment if he lubed it often and bought a good chain. I am not going to give a physics lesson as to why this is incorrect, but I am going to tell him enough so that he doesnt get himself killed.
 
Geez - everyone chill out.

Just brought the bike into Adrian today to get new Pirelli Diablo Rosso Corsa II's put on... I can't tell you how great it is to know Adrian because he not only put the tyres on for me, he mentioned what a **** job I did on the lubing of the chain and adjusted the huge slack and re-lubed it and took care of most of my front end issues. We found the cause of my tankslappers... there was an INCREDIBLE amount of play in the front end.. the wheel could be rocked back and forth while the bike was on a lift. So we spent a good deal of time tightening the hell out of it.. the triple tree bolt did something like a half turn tight and the steering bolt underneath did another half turn and now the bike feels rock solid.

It was definitely dangerous the way it was before because the front end basically wasn't held on at all.. so the steering has become linear, transitional and tight and the chain feels completely new and has definitely made throttle response night and day. The new Pirelli's are absolutely fantastic.. a little wobbly on the highway at first due to the lack of break-in but definitely inspires a 1000% more confidence in my riding.

The combination of all these changes made an incredible difference on the bike. Feels brand new and it took me some time to actually have to get used to the new feel.

Oh.. and no more tankslappers....not even close..

Adrian's ****ing great.
 
ZX600 said:
My bet is on this.

I Bet is lose as hell, Ninja 250's are known for this.

OP sit on the bike while parked and push the steering up and down compressing your front forks, if you feel any play or a "tak" noise there might be your problem. Get the bearing changed or at least tightened by someone that knows what they are doing.
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e90 said:
We found the cause of my tankslappers... there was an INCREDIBLE amount of play in the front end.. the wheel could be rocked back and forth while the bike was on a lift. So we spent a good deal of time tightening the hell out of it.. the triple tree bolt did something like a half turn tight and the steering bolt underneath did another half turn and now the bike feels rock solid.

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Called it!

I want my cookie damn it
 
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crankcall said:
kind of like "my tire has equilized pressures with the ambient atmosphere" "oh, you have a flat?"
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Nearly fell out of my chair... :lmao:
 
e90- Glad you were able to get your bike sorted out. Did you learn anything while you were there? Try and do some small maintenance on your bike every once in a while, it's a handy skill to have.
 
Mean Machine said:
e90- Glad you were able to get your bike sorted out. Did you learn anything while you were there? Try and do some small maintenance on your bike every once in a while, it's a handy skill to have.
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Thanks man! I can't believe what a difference it makes... it's like I bought a new bike.

I always learn things when I'm watching Adrian. Just hanging out in his shop with a few friends teaches me an insane amount of stuff I never knew of. He's great for explaining every single small detail, showing you what it is and how to fix it etc.

The problem was that I didn't know what the bike was SUPPOSED to feel like as this is my first bike ever... so I had no comparisons of right and wrong.... now that I know what's right, I'll never go back to wrong.

I'm going to keep on top of cleaning/lubing the chain at the very least moving forward. It's weird because I just did a thorough cleaning job and lubed it not even a month ago, yet the chain seemed bone dry. I don't know how that happened - was very weird. Perhaps I didn't use enough lube :S
 
e90 said:
I'm going to keep on top of cleaning/lubing the chain at the very least moving forward. It's weird because I just did a thorough cleaning job and lubed it not even a month ago, yet the chain seemed bone dry. I don't know how that happened - was very weird. Perhaps I didn't use enough lube :S
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Chain lube really isn't a permanent install, a month is likely way too long depending on how far you have ridden. I do mine every tank of gas, which is frequently 1 day of riding.
 
mikbusa said:
Chain lube really isn't a permanent install, a month is likely way too long depending on how far you have ridden. I do mine every tank of gas, which is frequently 1 day of riding.
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Every 300-400 Kms, or after the bike is exposed to the rain, should be plenty. Using that schedule I've gotten 50K+ Kms out of a chain.
 
caboose483 said:
How many km have you put on it? Where was the safety cert done?
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If this was a new bike, they come from Factory already ****ed, I had to tighten one with about 2k on it.

If this was a used bike then that is an interesting question!
 
I bought it at 5K KM.. it was a dropped bike... which explains the issues. Whoever put the bike together didn't tighten things up..

The Safety doesn't really look for the kinds of problems that my bike has.. afaik the safety cert is just a check of tire tread, lights, signals, brakes etc. Nothing to do with forks analysis.
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