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Suzuki DRZ400 SM
- Thread starter rinomato1
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matt365
Well-known member
After a quick kijiji search, the ones listed are way overpriced.
I was looking for a small displacement enduro as a second bike for the last few months.
My brother owned a 2005 drz400sm (I probably rode it more than he did), so one was on my potentials list. A set of 400s rims with decent dirt tires and it can do double duty (heavy for a dirtbike, but alright for woods and single trail).
Carbed. Almost unchanged from 1999.
Indestructible.
Look over the next few months, hope to spend between $3-4 grand (or they are $7,200 new)
I decided on a fuel injected yamaha wr250r/x. 30lbs lighter. Slightly less horsepower (but it needs to be wrung out), similarly indestructible. Cheap on insurance.
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I was looking for a small displacement enduro as a second bike for the last few months.
My brother owned a 2005 drz400sm (I probably rode it more than he did), so one was on my potentials list. A set of 400s rims with decent dirt tires and it can do double duty (heavy for a dirtbike, but alright for woods and single trail).
Carbed. Almost unchanged from 1999.
Indestructible.
Look over the next few months, hope to spend between $3-4 grand (or they are $7,200 new)
I decided on a fuel injected yamaha wr250r/x. 30lbs lighter. Slightly less horsepower (but it needs to be wrung out), similarly indestructible. Cheap on insurance.
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blackcamaro
Well-known member
Great bikes. It’s been 10 years since I had one so kind of going by memory.
Mine had a full yoshimura exhaust and FCR 39mm carb. Personally I wouldn’t look at one without these mods. I think power wise things went like this
Stock- 33-35hp
Carb, Full exhaust, 3x3 hole cut in the air box- about 40hp
Add cams to the above 42ish HP
Add 434 big bore - 44-45hp
After that their is a guy, not sure if he’s around anymore but his shop was sisneros speed works in Colorado and he was kind of the go to guy with these. With the above mods and headwork he was getting close to 50hp. Add a stroker crank to make it a 470 and he was getting like high 50’s hp out of them.
Very reliable. Add a manual cam chain adjuster and keep fresh oil in it. Replace the crush washer every time you change the oil. Back in the day some guys cracked their cases not replacing it. Oil is carried in the frame so if someone has powder coated the frame or done something else silly like that I wouldn’t even go look at the bike.
The seat sucks. The bike will go all day but I wouldn’t want to be on one much more then 2 hours. I feel the same about all supermotos though. I like them as a 2nd bike. I’ve had 3, DRZ, KTM 625 SMC and KTM 450 exc. Would be happy to have either a DRZ or EXC in my garage....those 625/640 KTM’s were junk though.
All years are good. 2007 had some minor updates like fat bars and axle sliders from the factory (reinstall them using threaded rod through the axle. Factory mounts suck)
Handled is a excellent. Easy to ride, doesn’t do anything weird and will hang with pretty much anything in the corners.
*Trials, I’m well aware your going to rant about changing the carb and exhaust and how it’s not street legal. I don’t care and will continue to ride modified bikes. We don’t need to have that conversation ?
Mine had a full yoshimura exhaust and FCR 39mm carb. Personally I wouldn’t look at one without these mods. I think power wise things went like this
Stock- 33-35hp
Carb, Full exhaust, 3x3 hole cut in the air box- about 40hp
Add cams to the above 42ish HP
Add 434 big bore - 44-45hp
After that their is a guy, not sure if he’s around anymore but his shop was sisneros speed works in Colorado and he was kind of the go to guy with these. With the above mods and headwork he was getting close to 50hp. Add a stroker crank to make it a 470 and he was getting like high 50’s hp out of them.
Very reliable. Add a manual cam chain adjuster and keep fresh oil in it. Replace the crush washer every time you change the oil. Back in the day some guys cracked their cases not replacing it. Oil is carried in the frame so if someone has powder coated the frame or done something else silly like that I wouldn’t even go look at the bike.
The seat sucks. The bike will go all day but I wouldn’t want to be on one much more then 2 hours. I feel the same about all supermotos though. I like them as a 2nd bike. I’ve had 3, DRZ, KTM 625 SMC and KTM 450 exc. Would be happy to have either a DRZ or EXC in my garage....those 625/640 KTM’s were junk though.
All years are good. 2007 had some minor updates like fat bars and axle sliders from the factory (reinstall them using threaded rod through the axle. Factory mounts suck)
Handled is a excellent. Easy to ride, doesn’t do anything weird and will hang with pretty much anything in the corners.
*Trials, I’m well aware your going to rant about changing the carb and exhaust and how it’s not street legal. I don’t care and will continue to ride modified bikes. We don’t need to have that conversation ?
rinomato1
Well-known member
Wow eh $7200 pretty pricey.... but I guess that's what it is. But I heard no complaints from people I spoke with who used to ride it. only hooligan fun times ????
matt365
Well-known member
Yeah, but why buy new. They have been virtually the same since 2005. Find one on kijiji that isn't priced to the moon... the right deal will pop up. Wait until the christmas bills start coming in... then try for a bit of a bargain.Wow eh $7200 pretty pricey.... but I guess that's what it is. But I heard no complaints from people I spoke with who used to ride it. only hooligan fun times
When you check out a used bike, bring a knowledgeable friend with you to talk you out of a bad deal; or pay off someone here with a 2-4 & gas money to accompany you. Even better if they have a truck.
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rinomato1
Well-known member
for sure! I mean if the right deal pops up and the machine is clean I would pull the trigger. I usually buy new for the most part I feel more comfortable.
Be patient, there will be plenty of good deals posted as we get closer to spring. For whatever reason there seem to be more of the supermoto version on kijiji than the strait dual sport.
Contrary to the advice of black camaro, I'd look for a stone stock one with the OEM carb and exhaust. While he may have the skill and experience to make such changes, I've seen too many instances of some guy botching a simple job and creating an expensive repair for the next owner - in this case you.
Nice bike though, cheap to buy and run and fun and reliable.
Contrary to the advice of black camaro, I'd look for a stone stock one with the OEM carb and exhaust. While he may have the skill and experience to make such changes, I've seen too many instances of some guy botching a simple job and creating an expensive repair for the next owner - in this case you.
Nice bike though, cheap to buy and run and fun and reliable.
In defence of Trials, I am also a believer in the, "Less Sound; More Ground." edict.
From the perspective of going faster in single track or other environments - lower gearing, suspension setup and physical condition of the rider make more of a difference to overall speed over the terrain than ANY pipe/carb mod.
SeeThruHead
Member
I'm also thinking about getting one as well. It's the perfect tinkerers bike imo. So many mods of all skill levels. I'm particularly in love with Federal Moto's Big Suzie build
www.federalmoto.com
www.bikeexif.com
There's something for everyone on this bike.
I would also like to get one that runs well for under 5k this season.
FED-014 BIG SUZIE — Federal Moto
www.federalmoto.com
A DR-Z400 built for the streets of Chicago
Tough, agile and one-of-a-kind: is this the perfect 21st century urban custom?
www.bikeexif.com
There's something for everyone on this bike.
I would also like to get one that runs well for under 5k this season.
Dizzer
Well-known member
OP - before considering this bike... ask yourself what you truly want out of it. What are you going to use it for? They are not for everyone. Most people really enjoy them at first but if you find yourself wanting to cruise all day or doing any sort of long stretches of road/HWY you will miss being on a more street oriented bike. These things are best suited for shorter rides, twisty roads, around town where speeds are low, dual sport/gravel travel or parking lot shenanigans..
The gearing has you pretty wound out and buzzy feeling at 110km/h "indicated" - It will run 120 all day but it wont be pleasant - vibes and wind will beat you up. You can gear down the rear sprocket for better highway revs but it kind of makes the bike boring at lower speeds... which is the reason you buy one in the first place!
They are overpriced on kijiji.. and brand new if you consider how old the tech is - I was offered 5k for my 2008 with sub 10,000km earlier this year. Not selling though! Hell, the first one I ever owned way back was only a couple years old at the time - bone stock, mint with 3500km and I got it for $4k. Would be hard to find a similar deal these days for sure.
I am on my 3rd DRZ-sm so feel free to PM me with specific questions.
The gearing has you pretty wound out and buzzy feeling at 110km/h "indicated" - It will run 120 all day but it wont be pleasant - vibes and wind will beat you up. You can gear down the rear sprocket for better highway revs but it kind of makes the bike boring at lower speeds... which is the reason you buy one in the first place!
They are overpriced on kijiji.. and brand new if you consider how old the tech is - I was offered 5k for my 2008 with sub 10,000km earlier this year. Not selling though! Hell, the first one I ever owned way back was only a couple years old at the time - bone stock, mint with 3500km and I got it for $4k. Would be hard to find a similar deal these days for sure.
I am on my 3rd DRZ-sm so feel free to PM me with specific questions.
Yes, they are very overpriced on Kijiji. A proper deal comes around once and a while. As I told someone who messaged me, I sold my 2007 SM in 2018 with not a scratch on it for $4000 and it had 18,000km on it. Basically perfect condition. That is the same I paid for it a year earlier. I consider around $3500-$4000 be a proper deal on a SM in nice condition. The bike really hasn't changed so it comes to the individual examples and how they were maintained. A 2008 could bring the money of a 2013 easily if it's in better condition overall.
There is really not many good ones on the market right now, after looking just now. The $3500 SM converted one is fairly clapped with a swapped motor, aftermarket dash, jb welded repaired side case, rusty exhaust etc. Not many good options. Also everything else rubber and bearing related on the bike is due for replacement unless the owner has actually done that stuff.
King Zarkon
Member
I'm also thinking about getting one as well. It's the perfect tinkerers bike imo. So many mods of all skill levels. I'm particularly in love with Federal Moto's Big Suzie build
FED-014 BIG SUZIE — Federal Moto
A DR-Z400 built for the streets of Chicago
Tough, agile and one-of-a-kind: is this the perfect 21st century urban custom?
There's something for everyone on this bike.
I would also like to get one that runs well for under 5k this season.
good god how have I never seen this build before
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