Well, you have to be realistic when buying used. If you effort gets you a better price, that would be the goal. There are some guys on the perpetual hunt for a showroom perfect bike, which you can find, on showrooms, for MSRP.
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Well, you have to be realistic when buying used. If you effort gets you a better price, that would be the goal. There are some guys on the perpetual hunt for a showroom perfect bike, which you can find, on showrooms, for MSRP.
You can find showroom bikes used. The guy that used to own my GSXR clearly waxed and cleaned everything with a tooth brush. I visited somebody with an 08 CBR1000RR that had a similarly conditioned bike. Both, imo, were good deals.
I ask a lot of questions before I go visit though, if their response is illiterate (lik dis and if dey ask me to "jus cum c it"), I move on cause it will probably be ****.
frekeyguy
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You aren't a normal buyer.
Normal buys would rather have a sparking clean bike with junky internals, vs. dirty bike that's been kept up and runs like a top.
Now a days a motorcycle is a fashion statement, so buyers would rather buy a junk 'green kawi' bike vs. a mint silver kawi.
To me a dirty bike isn't one that's kept up. If I'm coming to buy your bike and it's filthy dirty but you have a stack of receipts for work that's been done it's just as bad as a perfectly clean bike that has no records. My bikes are clean with no records (except maybe a few receipts for parts) because I do the work. How can you spot an oil leak when you can't see the motor because it's coverd in **** and if you've had work done was the bike clean or do you just work on a dirty bike?
If the bike has over 25,000km and no valve clearance check, chain/sprockets/brake pads are worn, the fork seals leak and the motor knocks then look elsewhere but other than that it's pretty hard to just poke around a bike to see if there's going to be any katistrophic failures.
If the bike has over 25,000km and no valve clearance check, chain/sprockets/brake pads are worn, the fork seals leak and the motor knocks then look elsewhere but other than that it's pretty hard to just poke around a bike to see if there's going to be any katistrophic failures.
I am gonna go trow a bunch of mud on that pretty zx10 of yours - I see what you are saying but I assume that anyone selling their bike would at least wash it.
and please wait till my hose thaws out so I can immediately wash it after you look at it.
phil_si
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I wouldn't say cheap, lots of labour involved unless you're implying the average person is capable of doing all the work themselves, in which case new second gear(s) are roughly $200-300
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With a lot of work, more than one person.
Buy new trust me!
I've bought new and used, i'll never buy used again, specially considering the type of liers in GTA, everyone is a leing selfish crook. The same person who lies and makes stories up to sell it for a profit, the same person who then low balls the hell out of people to get something used.
At least with a dealer or shop i can sue them or get them in trouble if they act up. And from experience, the chances of you getting a bad bike or car from a dealership if you have done your work properly before buying in zero, like testing the bike out, looking it over and over asking questions about why is it this like that and this, you'll get an amazing machine.
This psycology of loosing 20% is CHEAP! of the typical Torontonian, its the same people who see the glass half empty.
You have to spend money to make money....and loosing 20% where did you get that number from? i see 2002 gsxr 600's selling for $5000 grand on kijiji..lol seems like the value actually increases every year.lol
Also the "unofficial" 20% depreciation you claim... is for CARS not for motorcycles and "TOYs"
the depreciation is over the first year of the vehicle based on the condition of the owners treatment of the vehicle and its maintainance.. not based on as soon as you take it off the lot.
The price depreciation when you BUY the vehicle is the difference between what you paid the dealer for your car and what the MSRP of the car is...so this myth about the instant depreciation is not the value of the car or bike, ITS THE AMOUNT YOU PAID ON TOP OF THE MSRP!!!! its the profit you paid to the dealer!!! they will give you the value of the bike back, not the EXTRA money "profit" their asking price you also paid for, you agreed to pay their asking price.
for example the MSRP is for honda cbr600rr 2014 $10,999 and dealer A has it for $12,999 and dealer B has it for $13,999. one guy buys it for $12,999 and the other $13,999 they both will only get $10,999 for their bikes sold on kijiji or back to the dealer, because the extra money on top you paid willing as profit or ASKING PRICE to the dealer...which you could have negotiated! is the price that cannot be had back as soon as you sing that paper, which probably says as soon as its off the lot the deal is done.
The car and bikes NEVER loose value off the lot.
This myth of instant value loss is the same one like when people think after 3 years their driving record goes clean.lol it dosent ever!
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OP just to give you an example.
I bought a 12 year old SS for $4000 in summer, bike looked MINT! even brand new tires etc. only had 19 thousand kms.
within one weeks the bike died, i had to put a stator $200 walked bike 4 hours home 6 kilometres, two months later died on the highway doin 129kmh " another $130 rectifier+$200 tow, two weeks later bike died again wasaga, $150 battery+ $200 tow. 3 months later stator dies again on the highway +$200 stator +$200 tow. Tires done in 4 months $500.
$2000 in just 5-6 months pluss the $4000 i paid = $6000, then i had to pay about $4000 the problem it cost me including the engine blowing up, new forks, brake pads, rotors, throttle body, bearings, clutch before the second engine.
plus $3000 in towing and tickets and lawyer fees.
i spent $10,000 on a POS 12 year old bike because of the troubles it brought in my life both lawfully and it's reliability wise.
a smart friend once told me....don't ever buy used, you're just buying another mans headache.
i would only recomend, buying new used which i always tell people o do sometimes, which is like a new bike one or two years old off a really rich guy who only rode the bike 1000kms to 5000 kms. anything higher im going to the dealer.
I bought a 12 year old SS for $4000 in summer, bike looked MINT! even brand new tires etc. only had 19 thousand kms.
within one weeks the bike died, i had to put a stator $200 walked bike 4 hours home 6 kilometres, two months later died on the highway doin 129kmh " another $130 rectifier+$200 tow, two weeks later bike died again wasaga, $150 battery+ $200 tow. 3 months later stator dies again on the highway +$200 stator +$200 tow. Tires done in 4 months $500.
$2000 in just 5-6 months pluss the $4000 i paid = $6000, then i had to pay about $4000 the problem it cost me including the engine blowing up, new forks, brake pads, rotors, throttle body, bearings, clutch before the second engine.
plus $3000 in towing and tickets and lawyer fees.
i spent $10,000 on a POS 12 year old bike because of the troubles it brought in my life both lawfully and it's reliability wise.
a smart friend once told me....don't ever buy used, you're just buying another mans headache.
i would only recomend, buying new used which i always tell people o do sometimes, which is like a new bike one or two years old off a really rich guy who only rode the bike 1000kms to 5000 kms. anything higher im going to the dealer.
That's a load of BS lol.
So you are saying a zero mileage machine on the dealership floor is worth the same as a used bike with say 50km in it.
Who in their right mind would pay 100% of the MSRP (plus freight and pdi,. You said a bike NEVER looses value) all to become the 2nd owner of a new bike.
It loses value the second you drive it off the lot because the next person will be a 2nd owner and would not pay full price as he would he wondering why it is being sold so soon.
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Roomie
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But but but...... His motor blew up so bad it broke the forks and he had to walk it home for 4 hours. I think he must smoke with the mayor. Definitely some of the worst advice about buying a bike I've ever read. If he bought a used bike that actually did all of that then you don't want to take any advice from him. Clearly he has no clue
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I hear ya got up at 630am and it was 2wet replies for the first six topics. At least he adds some pizazz to this site LOL
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