That example is literally 50 years old. china's atrocities are being carried on as we type.
Are you old enough to remember Tiananmen Square? If not watch Hong Kong closely for the sequel.
Sorry the last thing I would buy is a vehicle made in china.
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Are you old enough to remember Tiananmen Square? If not watch Hong Kong closely for the sequel.
Sorry the last thing I would buy is a vehicle made in china.
Get off my lawn!!
We aren't going to change China's domination by changing our shopping practices. But jumping on board with a business opportunity and invest in China?
Really?
bigpoppa
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technically you already have, look at all those Chinese companies!(thats the canadian pension fund btw):
Private Equity | Our Investments | CPP Investments
Explore CPP Investments' private equity strategies and comparative advantages to acquire, manage and grow high-quality private companies worldwide.
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Nothing new there. You said learn Mandarin and jump onto the gravy train. That's child labour and all the atrocities that China dishes out with not a second thought.technically you already have, look at all those Chinese companies!(thats the canadian pension fund btw):
Private Equity | Our Investments | CPP Investments
Explore CPP Investments' private equity strategies and comparative advantages to acquire, manage and grow high-quality private companies worldwide.
boyoboy
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this article is from 2020.
Folks are fighting for justice to this day. MK ultra was evil, nothing less.
The canadian government recently settled (~10years ago) for at least one case. The lawyers made more than the brain erased victim...
MK ultra continued into the 1980's and later...
People involved in the MK ultra crimes in Canada, belong in prison. Its was pure unadultered evil.
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Some research studies that went off the rails and ended, ok 30 years ago is different from gunning people down in the public square. If you want to argue it's not then I'm out.
boyoboy
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research studies? seriously? lmao.
pure evil better describes it in all ways...
the west is no better than china - how many civillians have been murdered in the middle east in the last 20 years? all based on BS info and lies. thousands and thousands killed...no different than gunning them down in the streets of china...
pure evil better describes it in all ways...
the west is no better than china - how many civillians have been murdered in the middle east in the last 20 years? all based on BS info and lies. thousands and thousands killed...no different than gunning them down in the streets of china...
So your point is that because "the West" did bad things in the past, China gets a bunch of free-passes to even things up?
There's also a difference between having a bad outcome and doing something with bad intentions.
boyoboy
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as for good intentions ...is lying about the weapons of mass destruction one of the middle east "good intentions" ?
Mad Mike
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You can't compare conflict to brutal authoritarianism. For a while, many parts of the middle east were unstable, lead by totalitarian regimes that both oppressed their people and maliciously toyed with other nations. Do you think all those folks that rose up to overthrow strongmen in Tunisia, Libya, Bahrain, Egypt, Yemen, Syria (etc) were western casualties?
From what I recall, the only middle easterners targeted for gunning down in the streets were Isis or Taliban (stateless terrorists). I don't recall the west torturing families, ethnic cleansing, or carrying out political assassinations.
If you think it's all BS and lies, go talk to a Syrian, or Afghan refugee... see it through their eyes.
It just doesn't make Western news. In the 1990s and 2000s the local news outlets were the only ones showing pure unfiltered footage from the wars in the Middle East. The human suffering in the civilian population was immense - really brutal stuff - as with all wars. And that's just during the wars - recall that the sanctions in the 90s also caused massive suffering - if you starve a population, they're more incentivized to overthrow their government. Remember the UN's "Oil for Food Programme"? Other examples from Iraq that come to mind are the Amiriyah shelter bombing, use of chemical weapons in the siege of Fallujah and subsequent birth defects/deformities in newborns, Wikileaks Iraq War logs, Abu Ghraib, and so many more.
It's complex in every case. In Bahrain, the majority of the population is Shi'ite with strong religious ties to the Islamic Republic of Iran. So, with a pure democracy, the vote goes to Iran. Not going to happen - this is where the US Navy's Fifth Fleet is stationed and patrols traffic in the Persian Gulf, right next door to where Saudi oil gets refined and exported to the rest of the world. In this particular example, it's in the West's best interest to maintain the status quo. The West won't do the torturing, it's handled internally, and very effectively.
It's complex in every case. In Bahrain, the majority of the population is Shi'ite with strong religious ties to the Islamic Republic of Iran. So, with a pure democracy, the vote goes to Iran. Not going to happen - this is where the US Navy's Fifth Fleet is stationed and patrols traffic in the Persian Gulf, right next door to where Saudi oil gets refined and exported to the rest of the world. In this particular example, it's in the West's best interest to maintain the status quo. The West won't do the torturing, it's handled internally, and very effectively.
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You are clearly ignoring the dire reality of being non-white in North America and especially an illegal immigrant in the previous administration in the US or an indigenie in Canada, or a Roma in Europe.
Did you forget this?
2 years after the U.S. killed Iran's Qasem Soleimani, tensions remain
NPR's Mary Louise Kelly talks with Karim Sadjadpour, senior fellow at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, about the impact of the U.S.'s assassination of Iranian Gen. Qasem Soleimani.
www.npr.org
or this
That's not per capita BTW.
or this
How does the assignation of a general in the military of an enemy state, mass for-profit incarceration, and racism/bigotry in a regional police force support an equivalence argument of an authoritarian Communist regime (China) and a democracy (USA)?You are clearly ignoring the dire reality of being non-white in North America and especially an illegal immigrant in the previous administration in the US or an indigenie in Canada, or a Roma in Europe.
Did you forget this?
2 years after the U.S. killed Iran's Qasem Soleimani, tensions remain
NPR's Mary Louise Kelly talks with Karim Sadjadpour, senior fellow at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, about the impact of the U.S.'s assassination of Iranian Gen. Qasem Soleimani.
or this
That's not per capita BTW.
or this
As for the assassinated general, beyond the part about embarrassing Trump your link notes that he was instrumental in Iran’s regional military activities fomenting instability, or if someone is sympathetic to their cause – resistance.
“So the killing of Soleimani, I think it certainly constrained Iran's capabilities. He was the tip of Iran's spear in the Middle East and the places where Iran wields enormous influence - in Iraq, Syria, Lebanon and Yemen. So his absence has certainly been felt. So on one hand, it's constrained Iran's capabilities, but it hasn't constrained Iran's will and influence. Up until now, Iran hasn't changed any of its regional policies. It continues to be deeply opposed to the United States, to Israel's existence, and it continues to cultivate these regional militias, which, you know, wield enormous power in those countries.”
America’s incarceration rates are a disgrace, but it’s decent into urban decay and regional poverty are its national shame and the 2 are related. There is widespread belief that this has been exacerbated by the departure of arguably low value/modestly skilled manufacturing to primarily China.
Racism exists everywhere, including your island paradise. The cops in Saskatchewan were moving a perceived problem out of their view as opposed to correctly dealing with it through social intervention. It isn’t proof of an ongoing plan to exterminate a local or national population.
As for the bike this thread was ostensibly created about, a 400cc. inline 4 which was copied from a Kawasaki design. TK4 is correct, it will never land on North American shores, probably won’t get to Europe either and is unlikely to be sold anywhere else in the world.
So regarding the news about its existence, B__ F_____’ D___!
boyoboy
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here's some numbers.
watson.brown.edu
Human Costs | Costs of War
The Costs of War Project is a team of 35 scholars, legal experts, human rights practitioners, and physicians, which began its work in 2011. We use research and a public website to facilitate debate about the costs of the post-9/11 wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Pakistan.
watson.brown.edu
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