So who's building a 300 track bike?

Dude, you realize we are taking time of our day to try and help you out right?

First of all I didn't tell you to sell your 300 and buy an CSBK bike, since you seemed hell bent on racing the 300 cup, I asked how much would it cost to buy the CSBK 300 if you would of sell yours.

Sorry we didn't have all the answers you wish and that we weren't helpful by copying and pasting information, I remember when I started racing, I went and got all information myself and didn't ***** at people that were trying to help me out even when their information wasn't complete.

Wanna know for sure, call Ken at SOAR or Chris at RACE .. there lol.


DaveTheCanuck said:
Seriously. I'm trying to gain interest in racing my 300 and so far I've basically been told to suck it up and pay big bucks to play in CSBK (and to sell my 300 I've already prepped and buy one of the cookie cutter bikes from Kawi) or to compete against bigger bikes in regional clubs.

Not looking for cheese with my whine but come on... Just telling me "SOAR", "RACE" and copy/pasting lacking bits of info from their respective sites doesn't exactly help a noobie.

There's no info about the 300 production classes on their sites and I had no idea they even existed until bakaboy mentioned them.



Your later posts were helpful, thank you :)
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doozerdave said:
I would imagine the problem there would be exposure for sponsors. If there's not enough return on sponsorship investment then it wouldn't even start. 20000+ people at Mosport yesterday, that's a lot more than come to watch SOAR and RACE.
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Invest in the regional series, Ontario/quebec east coast and west coast. Winners of each series compete at the mosport double header to claim national 300 champion .

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Jayv said:
Invest in the regional series, Ontario/quebec east coast and west coast. Winners of each series compete at the mosport double header to claim national 300 champion .

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Yeah, sounds doable.
 
bakaboy said:
Especially watching my 15 year old get the brush off when he personally asked for a ride.
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Brutal Dave.

Would have been better off giving a few rides to young kids and let Marcel irnie take the place of the print journalists. Nobody but old farts read magazines any more.

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Jayv said:
Invest in the regional series, Ontario/quebec east coast and west coast. Winners of each series compete at the mosport double header to claim national 300 champion .

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Invest in RACE and SOAR and championship at ON/QC Championship......

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ZX600 said:
Dude, you realize we are taking time of our day to try and help you out right?

First of all I didn't tell you to sell your 300 and buy an CSBK bike, since you seemed hell bent on racing the 300 cup, I asked how much would it cost to buy the CSBK 300 if you would of sell yours.

Sorry we didn't have all the answers you wish and that we weren't helpful by copying and pasting information, I remember when I started racing, I went and got all information myself and didn't ***** at people that were trying to help me out even when their information wasn't complete.

Wanna know for sure, call Ken at SOAR or Chris at RACE .. there lol.
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If there is no info on the websites of said orgs why would anyone bother to call them? if they want people to race in them ADVERTISE ON YOUR SITE ABOUT THE CLASS. Its not like he asked "Is there racing orgs in Ontario". Get off your high horse Paulo.
 
Either way I'm out. waste of money and time with *****.
 
QUE?

I wasn't even talking to her! oh boy. meh!
 
Benny! said:
Either way I'm out. waste of money and time with *****.
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If you put a seasoned veteran on a Ninja 300 and a noob on an identical Ninja 300 they'll be a lap down pretty quick too.

Reading your posts made me a little dumber.


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caboose56 said:
If you put a seasoned veteran on a Ninja 300 and a noob on an identical Ninja 300 they'll be a lap down pretty quick too.

Reading your posts made me a little dumber.


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Yes, but put a seasoned veteran on a 400cc 2S and watch the noob on a 300 get eaten up.

I'm not claiming to be good and I know that regardless of the class I'll likely be up against some skilled riders; which is why I'm interested in a 300 class, so that there's a relatively level playing field and the bikes aren't such a huge factor.

Personally, I have no interest in racing in a varied grid with two strokes, larger displacement, etc.

Put me up against R3s, CBR300s, RC390s and I'm in.
 
Many riders enter 600cc bikes in the Superbike class and do quite well.

Again, I don't mean to sound rude, but your concerns are ill founded. The bike does not matter as much as you think it does. Benny has never raced either so she's also speaking from ignorance.


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caboose56 said:
Many riders enter 600cc bikes in the Superbike class and do quite well.

Again, I don't mean to sound rude, but your concerns are ill founded. The bike does not matter as much as you think it does. Benny has never raced either so she's also speaking from ignorance.


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umm yes I have... Did two rounds before realizing everyone is nice to your face then talk behind your back. Not the kind of environment I enjoy being around. I prefer the track days where everyday Joes go and people are a little more humble.
 
Buddy of mine just posted up a 2:00 lap time at SMP Long on his GSX-R 750. I set a 1:57 at some point at the last 600 race on a bike that wouldn't rev over 10k rpm and wouldn't allow more than 1/2 throttle; it would cut power like someone cycled the kill switch. I'm not cutting him up (for starters, he's on street tires), I'm just saying that it's easy to prove that a racer on a bike with maybe 50hp can run a lap time that would be top dog, by a margin, in the advanced group at a track day. Surely, a good rider on a Ninja 300 could best that time. Seems like that's not such a bad bike to race? I think it'd be great.
 
If someone is looking for casual, fun, low pressure racing.... A national championship series probably isn't the right venue.


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caboose56 said:
If someone is looking for casual, fun, low pressure racing.... A national championship series probably isn't the right venue.


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It was the only option until Bakaboy revealed RACE holds a 300 series. Don't care about csbk now.
 
caboose56 said:
Many riders enter 600cc bikes in the Superbike class and do quite well.

Again, I don't mean to sound rude, but your concerns are ill founded. The bike does not matter as much as you think it does. Benny has never raced either so she's also speaking from ignorance.


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Even if that was the case, it doesn't invalidate the points she's making.

My concerns aren't ill founded, I'd say they're pretty damn realistic for any noobie looking to get into the sport. Honestly I think your argument only proves my point further; put a good racer on a slow bike and they'll do a good job, put a good racer on a faster bike and they'll do even better.
 
DaveTheCanuck said:
Even if that was the case, it doesn't invalidate the points she's making.

My concerns aren't ill founded, I'd say they're pretty damn realistic for any noobie looking to get into the sport. Honestly I think your argument only proves my point further; put a good racer on a slow bike and they'll do a good job, put a good racer on a faster bike and they'll do even better.
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So if you face any type of performance deficit (either perceived or real) you won't race? How much do you weight? How will you feel when a 90lb rider on another Ninja 300 motors past you like you're tied to a tree?

What most people are trying to tell you is that the performance difference between the bikes is insignificant.


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caboose56 said:
So if you face any type of performance deficit (either perceived or real) you won't race? How much do you weight? How will you feel when a 90lb rider on another Ninja 300 motors past you like you're tied to a tree?

What most people are trying to tell you is that the performance difference between the bikes is insignificant.


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if that's the case then why even have different classes if the bikes performance doesn't matter?
 
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