should i go with a liter

[RedDogDarren]

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who in their right mind would buy anything smaller is beyond me.

Someone who is a relatively new rider.
Someone who enjoys tracking a 600 over a 1000 (tire expense, easier to get more without a high side).
Someone with no self control to not do constant throttle wheelies.

I ride the liter bikes because I am lazy and I want my power RIGHT NOW! But not everyone is the same. Some riders are literally scared at such an abrupt explosion of wheel spinning power. Smaller bikes are easier to ride fast because there is less threat of the back wheel trying to pass the front tire when you apply throttle in a turn. Electronics are helping to keep alive a lot of riders that would have exited the gene pool many years ago on older bikes at least.

Who are we to tell anybody what they should be riding?

 

[inreb]

If you can afford a 1000, it's a no brainer, who in their right mind would buy anything smaller is beyond me. 1000's are way more everyday street friendly than 600's

If you have to ask why, give your head a serious shake.

A 1000SS is a class of bike, a 600SS is a class of bike, a 250/300 is a class of bike etc Have you seen the myriad of road race classes? Is Moto 3 bogus? Moto 2?

 

[dricked]

A 1000SS is a class of bike, a 600SS is a class of bike, a 250/300 is a class of bike etc Have you seen the myriad of road race classes? Is Moto 3 bogus? Moto 2?

No but the end goal of the riders in those classes is????

 

[RedDogDarren]

No but the end goal of the riders in those classes is????

Racing on a track for a prize. Which has absolutely zero to do with the question presented here.

 

[XenoVibe]

Obviously a litre bike can't be used to its potential on the street, highway maybe, but their are legal discrepancies Ultimately, it is really what you are comfortable with. You may be better off just buying another bike like a Dual Sport/SuperMoto, sport touring or Adventure bike for the street.

 

[mmmnaked]

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I value the opinion of this scooter rider.

 

[EaZ8]

Obviously a litre bike can't be used to its potential on the street, highway maybe, but their are legal discrepancies Ultimately, it is really what you are comfortable with. You may be better off just buying another bike like a Dual Sport/SuperMoto, sport touring or Adventure bike for the street.

im yet to come across a road my 600rr cant handle.....



Power Pilot 3's do suprisingly well on loose gravel, sand, and in the rain.

this pic im on a dirtbike(i think this is the KTM), but i ride this road to my cottage.
its about 20 min from the last section of pavement till you get to my cottage. up and down hills, washed out sections....all kinds of fun stuff.

 

[inreb]

Racing on a track for a prize. Which has absolutely zero to do with the question presented here.

I knew that was going to be the response. So I guess a 1000SS must be the only bike to ride on the street then because not race? Anything else is wasting your time? Anything else is not getting full pop? Every class has it's own unique purpose and feel and experience. "who in there right mind would buy anything smaller is beyond me" per Road Warrior, man that is limiting.

 

[RedDogDarren]

I knew that was going to be the response. So I guess a 1000SS must be the only bike to ride on the street then because not race? Anything else is wasting your time? Anything else is not getting full pop? Every class has it's own unique purpose and feel and experience. "who in there right mind would buy anything smaller is beyond me" per Road Warrior, man that is limiting.

I believe you meant to quote the person I quoted in my post.

 

[conundrum]

In the end people will get what they want/can afford, but I still shake my head at anyone who says a 600 SS is too slow for the street. Yes, a bike that can do highway speeds in 1st gear is too slow for the streets....

I guess I better sell my CBR650F and get a CBR1000RRA so I don't get run over. Probably should also replace my V6 Accord Coupe with a Ferrari for the same reason...

 

[veteq]

In the end people will get what they want/can afford, but I still shake my head at anyone who says a 600 SS is too slow for the street. Yes, a bike that can do highway speeds in 1st gear is too slow for the streets....

I guess I better sell my CBR650F and get a CBR1000RRA so I don't get run over. Probably should also replace my V6 Accord Coupe with a Ferrari for the same reason...

You completely missed the point, bikes don't need to be ridden to the limit in order to be fun. Do you drive your Accord V6 to the limit on the street? if not,why not get a smart car? that is all you will need if you are not fully "using" your car.
Litter bikes on the street are about torque and the ability to pick up speed at very low RPM, power is always there.

 

[ZX600]

Main reason why I got the FZ09, 55FT-lbs of torque across all RPM ranges.

Edit: I misspoke

55 is at lower RPM range
around 65 at higher RPM range

600s make peak torque (about 45ft-lbs) at almost 11,000rpm... that's basically 100 in first gear. For all intents and purposes, you're not getting the most out of the motor until you're breaking any speed limit in Ontario.

A modern liter bike on the other hand makes 45ft-lbs of torque by 3500rpm. That's well under 60kmh in 1st gear.

There's no comparison whatsoever. Liter bikes make more usable power at all revs, in all gears, at all speeds. That's why they're ****ing awesome. You have more power at 3500rpm puttering around 60kmh city streets than a 600cc supersport ever makes at its peak. Real power, felt every time you ride the bike.

The misconception that you never utilize the extra power of a 1000cc supersport is completely retarded. You'd have to have never ridden a 1k supersport to make such a dumb argument.

 

[-JERICHO-]

I decided I am going to get a 999cc this time around. I dropped the 600cc idea in favor of a new experience. I can't wait to see what its like.

 

[RedDogDarren]

I decided I am going to get a 999cc this time around. I dropped the 600cc idea in favor of a new experience. I can't wait to see what its like.

Excellent. You saved some of our members a lot of migraines when they try to fathom your choice and then fail miserably just to comprehend why you would choose what you want, rather than what they tell you to get.

 

[-JERICHO-]

Excellent. You saved some of our members a lot of migraines when they try to fathom your choice and then fail miserably just to comprehend why you would choose what you want, rather than what they tell you to get.

The most appealing part is the torque. I can't wait to see what its like to pass without shifting.. lol

 

[dricked]

Racing on a track for a prize. Which has absolutely zero to do with the question presented here.

No.

I knew that was going to be the response. So I guess a 1000SS must be the only bike to ride on the street then because not race? Anything else is wasting your time? Anything else is not getting full pop? Every class has it's own unique purpose and feel and experience. "who in there right mind would buy anything smaller is beyond me" per Road Warrior, man that is limiting.

I believe you meant to quote the person I quoted in my post.

And wtf are you two going on about?

 

[veteq]

The most appealing part is the torque. I can't wait to see what its like to pass without shifting.. lol

So, what are the bikes on your list?

 

[inreb]

Racing on a track for a prize. Which has absolutely zero to do with the question presented here.

I believe you meant to quote the person I quoted in my post.

No, I meant to quote you. The point I'm trying to make is that, like racing on the track, street riding is mostly a sport and hobby. Yes, litre bikes have a certain type of power and provide a certain experience. I can see why people would be fully in favour of them. But there are many ways to do the hobby even just in the realm of performance street riding. Have you noticed the overwhelming enthusiasm for RC390 yet nobody's ridden one yet or compared it to something much faster? And don't get me started on the weirdos running CBR125s.

 

[-JERICHO-]

so, what are the bikes on your list?

RSV4
ZX10R
r1
899
1050 speed

In that order..

 

[dricked]

RSV4
ZX10R
r1
899
1050 speed

In that order..

I can say that the new zx10 (2011+) isn't a great street bike. You really need to get the rpms up before it builds power. Now a 2004/05, that thing will spin the tire followed by a wheelie at 5-6000rpm

899? That's no litre bike.

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