Shell/Gas Station Rant

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I always fill up to the metal part and then slowly top it off with about half the metal piece under gas and the rest above. This usually ends up with the tank being full when its off the stand. How much you need to drown the piece would depend on the lean angle of your bike while on a kick stand.
 
Don't get me wrong guys, I do understand the validity of the "get off bike while filling" policy, there is some sense in it. It's the fact that the guy cut off my fuel mid-fillup and refused to let me continue despite obviously not having a safe way of moving with the pump still in the bike.

The guy argued that he "hadn't seen me" until I was already filling up, which isn't my problem. I also explained to him that if I were somewhere on the highway and this happened, if I didn't have the means to make a 2nd payment (I had no cash on me, and let's pretend my credit card would've been maxed or wouldn't allow a 2nd transaction as some would flag it as suspicious), he would potentially have caused someone in that situation to become stranded without enough gas to get where they were going.

THAT is where I see the biggest problem with this "policy". But second to that is, again, the fact this guy wanted me to move the bike with an open gas tank, and the pump dangling out of it. He could have just let me spend the extra 30-60 seconds it'd have taken me to fill up, since I was already doing so without causing some kind Michael Bay gas-station-explosion scene...

FWIW, I sent an email to their head office regarding the matter/incident, and as part of that recommended that if this is truly a policy, it should be clearly stated at all pumps for the benefit of future motorcycle-riding customers (and their staff.) Of course, much like their phone line, the email box is not working (full/bouncing emails...) Go figure. Snail-mail it is then.
 
Frankly the gas station attendant was right, and you should follow his instruction. You should get off the bike and fill it, just in case fire starts or fuel spill, you panic, dump the bike and fuel inside the tank and cause more fire hazard, and burn yourself to death. So it is a safety precaution, prevention is better than cure.

and correct me if i am wrong, you should never fill gas to the top, you need to leave room for the vapor to go, because newer bike as EVAP system with a charcoal canister, so if you filled all the way up, liquid gas might get into the canister and ended up needing a new one.
 
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Sorry, but your right to do stupid stuff, doesn't trump their right to disallow your doing it with their equipment.

The fact that you are not embarrassed enough to not post this thread, shows something as well.


TekNinja81 said:
... moron ....
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TekNinja81 said:
... any shred of common sense ...

... stupid of an idea that is,... ****tard **** ...stupid ... Captain Clueless ... glass shroud of stupidity ... I have NEVER had to get off my bike to fill up. ... people get their logic from. ... dangerous... risk ...the pump fell over while I try to juggle everything,....

/rant.
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I extracted the especially funny parts. lol

p.s. That's not why they call them crotch rockets. Yer doin' it wrong.
 
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The attendant did a good job.
Leave him alone.
It's just too bad that he didn't get to your sooner.
Sucks to be you. Learn the rules, then fill up your tank.
I leave gas cans in my trunk when I fill them. Any attendant could tell me to remove them to fill them. But they never do. The day the tell me is the day I know that the attendant gives a damn about the rules and I will praise him for doing so.
I'm just a lazy f_ _ _ _.
But at least I know the rules, and I know I am breaking them.
You my friend should learn, and then criticize. Not the other way around.

If a cop gives you a ticket for making a u-turn where law prohibits doing so, what recourse do you have?
None. You should have known the law before you set foot on your bike.

Same thing applies here.
 
Last season I always filled up while sitting on the bike. After talking with a few other people who had similar issues like the OP I changed my fill-up routine on the new bike this year and get off and fill it up. The plus side is that I get to stretch my legs, the SS seating position makes fill-ups a nice break. Also from a health & safety point of view it is the gas stations choice to determine what is safe and what is not. I'm on my work's H&S committee and went since last year got certified so I get the reason why they don't allow this at some places.

Rant all you want, in this case they (gas stations) have the right to not allow you do some unsafe on their property.
 
Low rider said:
If a cop gives you a ticket for making a u-turn where law prohibits doing so, what recourse do you have?.
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Probably chew the cop out. Don't you know that I went past where I need to go? A u-turn is the only way to get back there. Stupid clueless cop and moronic rules.

;) ;) ;)

I'm not sure that the OP gets the irony of the situation.
 
AL3RT said:
Sheppard & Kingston?? Bad area to begin with :D
Try filling up in Woodbridge for once. They couldn't care less if you are doing a burnout while filling up, as long as you pay.
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Actually this is one of the only nice areas of scarborough, West Rouge.

And op, the gas station attendant there is retarded I have had issues before. If I'm in a pinch I go to the esso down thr street but usually thr Petro at whites or Morningside. Shell has a cleaner washroom.

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It is my observation that Canadians love rules, even stupid, banal and inconsequential ones. I sit on my bike while filling up, have yet to be reprimanded.
 
I've filled the bike once by leaning it up to see where the fuel level was but I was going on a long trip.

In the city I say kickstand down is fine for 2 reasons. 1 being the more weight you have in liquid the slower you are and the more fuel that is burnt to move it. The other being with a EFI bike you know the difference. On mine I have a 12 L tank, the low light comes on at 2.5 L and yesterday fuelling it on the kickstand I put in 8.3 L. So that tells me there is 1 litre of available space left if I stand up the bike. I think that I can live with that. 11L vs 12L is still pretty full with fuel.
 
I have been riding for over a decade (including touring ALL over North America) -- and not once have I got off my bike to fill her. Can't fill her full if she is on the side stand (and when touring I do like to get as much in there as possible as one of the few things my ZX14 can't pass on the road is a gas station). Spillage has never been an issue. I have never been asked to do otherwise. And frankly, the bike is far less likely to tip over if I stay on it (risk of side stand failure is higher than both of my legs).

The policy only makes sense to me as a loss prevention strategy -- to avoid gas'n'go theft -- but this is only an issue where it is not prepay -- and I always pay at the pump (kinda implied by not wanting to waste time getting off bike). I suspect loss prevention strategy may have been rebranded as safety policy in order to increase enforcement rate and simplify things for employees (one policy for all versus by method of payment). Not a customer-centric approach though -- and in my view not only inconvenient for customers, but also less safe.
 
betcha he wishes he didnt start this thread now....lol

whats really bad, is that everyone on here has said you were wrong, for yelling at the kid for doing his job
You tried to call/email but its not working. then you mention using snail mail instead.
so you plan on sending one, but havent mailed it yet.
all this after the fact knowing what YOU did was wrong.

snitches are ******* and liars catch fire
 
I always pay at the pump and sit on my bike to fill up, I just don't go to Shell stations since a couple years ago I was told to get off in Peterborough. I just prefer filling it up while the bike is level, I find it more awkward when I'm standing to the side and the bike is leaned over
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