Royal Enfield

GreyGhost said:
@TK4 seems to have an inside line on RE. Maybe he can chime in.
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Has anyone heard from @TK4 recently? I haven't seen anything from him since I took an unplanned pause when GTAM stopped working on any of my browsers for a while...
 
Priller said:
Has anyone heard from @TK4 recently? I haven't seen anything from him since I took an unplanned pause when GTAM stopped working on any of my browsers for a while...
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He logged in on Friday. Hasn't posted since January though which I found surprising.
 
GreyGhost said:
He logged in on Friday. Hasn't posted since January though which I found surprising.
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Ah, maybe all the offseason political ranting has kept him quiet, and he needs some RE chat to coax him out of hiding...
 
85K100 said:
Why not a Triumph Bonneville instead?
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Agreed. I bought a used T120 for only $500 more than what I sold my Interceptor 650 for... Now I currently have about $600 worth of parts I took off that T120 up for sale, so basically they were the same price as far as I'm concerned, and the Interceptor wasn't half the bike the T120 is. Well, maybe in displacement, but not in quality.

Wingboy said:
Mostly money. But i really like the Mulder.
And OVC is the dealer for Ural and RE. Convenient.
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Can't remember the last time I took a motorcycle to it's dealership... but I guess these are things to consider....


...when buying from certain brands 😂


Kidding, just being an *******.

Well, maybe only half kidding, so only half an *******? An ass-half?
 
adri said:
RE can't even make their rear brakes not fail, repeatedly, even after dealer servicing, repeatedly. Maybe do a little searching on GTAM and you'll find my thread about the recurring rear brake failures that many owners have faced (scary). You'll also find on here a thread from another Toronto rider who's RE suffered a total failure and needed to be completed replaced within a couple days of buying it brand new.

I honestly can't recommend this brand since I found out about the recurring brake issues because I have this mental problem called integrity and it creates a psychological block that stops from me recommending people spend good money after bad and possibly put themselves at risk in the process. Motorcycling is inherently risky enough.

Did I like my INT 650? For sure! I found it very endearing. It is a fun! Did my RE INT 650's paint and aluminum pit prematurely? Absolutely!

Does @TK4 love his INT 650. For sure! Did he also literally have to take the OEM brake components off and replace with aftermarket components to finally have a rear brake that didn't fail? Absolutely!

Sure, it comes with a two year warranty if you're crazy enough to buy new... but if the dealers won't or can't fix the recurring problem, because RE shrugs it off, and the end user is stuck sourcing his own expensive parts and doing his own labor, the warranty is a joke.

But TK4 will probably still tell you it's a great motorcycle. A lot of Royal Enfield enthusiasts are fanatical like that. And I get it, because like I said, it's a very endearing bike. You can show them the problems and they'll shrug it off like "Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, it's juuuuuuuust brakes maaaan! Royal Enfield is great."

I like brakes that stop. I like bikes with paint, spokes, and engine cases that don't pit a few years after they're new. But some people just want a fun ride. If all you want is a fun ride, buy a Royal Enfield, I guess. You work hard for your money so you can set it on fire however you see fit and I'll still love you all the same.
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I haven't posted for a while because I got tired of all the political squabbling. GTA is for motorcycles, not politics.
Regarding the rear brake issues that @adri pointed out I have some theories:
1) The 2019 I have has had NO problems - it still has the original Bybre (stamped right on them) brakes. They are scheduled to be replaced because of a worldwide recall - they seize apparently in some markets (not North America that I can determine) because of corrosion through lack of proper maintenance. I'm in no rush.
2) The work I did on the 2021 involved repeated bleeding and replacement of the rear master cylinder which in hindsight was totally unnecessary. No aftermarket parts were ever used. Just bleed and repeat. Everything works fine now.
3) My suspicions are (with no way to confirm) is that when the rear calipers were changed out to the 'updated/unlabeled' Bybre units at factory or dealer the bleeding process was incomplete in some instances. Having been involved with a product update on the brakes of the very first generation EX300 Kawasakis I know what a PITA it is to get everything working properly again.
4) The same or similar components are used on the small bore BMWs and I believe Triumphs, so I don't think it's a design or engineering issue.
As with many issues brought up on various forums ( KTM soft cams anyone ?) there is an element of truth. Is it a huge problem that every owner must face ? I don't think so.
Your opinions may differ and that's fine, I'll go away again now.
 
TK4 said:
I haven't posted for a while because I got tired of all the political squabbling. GTA is for motorcycles, not politics.
Regarding the rear brake issues that @adri pointed out I have some theories:
1) The 2019 I have has had NO problems - it still has the original Bybre (stamped right on them) brakes. They are scheduled to be replaced because of a worldwide recall - they seize apparently in some markets (not North America that I can determine) because of corrosion through lack of proper maintenance. I'm in no rush.
2) The work I did on the 2021 involved repeated bleeding and replacement of the rear master cylinder which in hindsight was totally unnecessary. No aftermarket parts were ever used. Just bleed and repeat. Everything works fine now.
3) My suspicions are (with no way to confirm) is that when the rear calipers were changed out to the 'updated/unlabeled' Bybre units at factory or dealer the bleeding process was incomplete in some instances. Having been involved with a product update on the brakes of the very first generation EX300 Kawasakis I know what a PITA it is to get everything working properly again.
4) The same or similar components are used on the small bore BMWs and I believe Triumphs, so I don't think it's a design or engineering issue.
As with many issues brought up on various forums ( KTM soft cams anyone ?) there is an element of truth. Is it a huge problem that every owner must face ? I don't think so.
Your opinions may differ and that's fine, I'll go away again now.
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Thanks for the input. All the politics are stuffed into a sub forum now. It's a tiny bit better.
 
@TK4 Thanks for contribution to this thread and others. Really appreciate if you visit for the motorcycle threads and chime in. The political threads will die down and was the warmer weather approaches, there will be more discussion motorcycle related.


Cheers!
 
Wingboy said:
Thanks for the input. All the politics are stuffed into a sub forum now. It's a tiny bit better.
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As someone who sympathises with @TK4 in regards to the steady flow of political outrage threads, is there a way to mute that particular subforum from the 'What's New' feed? I know @PrivatePilot had asked for something similar a while back, but I understand it might not be possible depending on the forum software.

I say this as someone who still gets sucked in occasionally but almost always regrets it. I know it's good to keep folks engaged and checking in, so I understand the desire to allow it to continue, but it'd be nice to just have a feed of motorcycle and motorcycle-adjacent stuff...
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