dieselxx
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He has an Aston not a 911
Ooops my bad. Even better lol.
But ya if the car gives OP the same thrills and enjoyment, and he doesn't see value for the money, then get rid of the bike
Ooops my bad. Even better lol.
But ya if the car gives OP the same thrills and enjoyment, and he doesn't see value for the money, then get rid of the bike
You asked us a question, you've gotten plenty of answers. If you don't want to ride anymore, that's fine. But you must be pretty stupid if you think you're gonna turn the tides here and have all of us trade in our bikes. Your ego-stroking garbage posts are gonna keep me laughing all the way until 5pm when I can hop on the duc again.
These points are quite valid.....to add to it, the title and poll should include using a bike for transportation (very affordable) compared to the enthusiast version (not so affordable). Plenty of bikes that are easy on insurance and maintenance, gear can be very affordable if you pay attention when shopping, and maybe get a bike that you saved up for instead of paying the bank lots of borrowing cost. You can easily do a sub-5 grand total start up cost, and drop down to a $1500 a year commuter vehicle. Ask me how I know, lol. If you want posing farkles or a higher performing bike, you get to pay for it. Having said that though, there are no shortage of bikes that perform far beyond what the street can offer anyway. It's just the riders that don't have the balls to acknowledge that
If you're losing sight of why you "loved it" then in my opinion you never were really into it in the first place. I don't say this to insult you or put you down im simply saying it from what ive seen over the years.
From my experience most riders stick around for about 2-3 years, then the cool factor wears off and the costs and dangers start to sink in. Some crash, others see their friends crash and get a reality check.
For those that truly love motorcycles nothing will stop them from riding. They'd eat kraft dinner and buy a 1000$ bike and make it work just to be able to ride. Meanwhile you ride a ducati and drive a high end sports car yet you're complaining about cost. You could easily downgrade bikes and make it work...but i think you're just looking for justification to quit, this is after all the second thread you've made about this at a time when everyone else is all giggly about the weather getting better.
If you doubt what im saying ask the guys who have been doing this for 10+ years...
As for the original question i don't keep track of what i spend. Im responsible with my money and obviously try to minimize costs but at the same time i realize that life isn't about having the biggest back account...
If cars make you happy drive a car, if its motorcycle ride a bike, whatever it is dont look for other people's approval just do your thing...
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TF3N
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Also, from a cost standpoint:
The vehicle cost(cash outlay), depreciation, maintenance(TIRES!), insurance, fuel costs, etc. of a car that would even be close to the enjoyment I get from riding, would seriously outweigh the cost of riding.
The cheapest car I could think of that would even come close is the C6Z.
The only positive I can see with a nice car is the added safety.
The vehicle cost(cash outlay), depreciation, maintenance(TIRES!), insurance, fuel costs, etc. of a car that would even be close to the enjoyment I get from riding, would seriously outweigh the cost of riding.
The cheapest car I could think of that would even come close is the C6Z.
The only positive I can see with a nice car is the added safety.
People are irrational animals and that keeps life interesting, if a little dangerous at times.
There's no denying the roads, insurance, weather, maintenance and new/used prices in Ontario suck royally. Yet here we are, strapping on helmets and thumbing the starter every lousy excuse for spring. I'd argue not only is it worth it, the hassles prove we love riding more than riders in sunnier climates. Even if our tires are squared off and there are regular crashes at the one hairpin turn in the whole province.
There's no denying the roads, insurance, weather, maintenance and new/used prices in Ontario suck royally. Yet here we are, strapping on helmets and thumbing the starter every lousy excuse for spring. I'd argue not only is it worth it, the hassles prove we love riding more than riders in sunnier climates. Even if our tires are squared off and there are regular crashes at the one hairpin turn in the whole province.
delfonic
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as a first time rider, i have been keeping track of the cost of this hobby.
m1 test = $20
m2 course and test = $475
shoei helmet and smoked shield= $360
5ive gloves = $100
teknic boots = $120
jacket = $0 hand me down (saving up and expecting to pay $700+ for my own leather jacket)
cbr250r = $3000
saftey = $80
plates, sticker and registration = $150
insurance = $865 yearly
gas = $???
so this year alone. just to start this, i would be spending roughly around $5170. is it worth it? yes. why? because i've asked myself knowing full well that i'd spend over $5k just to start a hobby, i'd do it all over again. that's just the start of it. that doesn't include my own leather jacket which would cost $700+, another set of gloves, a back up helmet, riding pants and whatever upgrades i would do on the bike.
i have stopped and sacrificed my other hobbies for the 1 reason, and it's to ride a motorcycle. so i know that i'm 100% sure it's worth it.
m1 test = $20
m2 course and test = $475
shoei helmet and smoked shield= $360
5ive gloves = $100
teknic boots = $120
jacket = $0 hand me down (saving up and expecting to pay $700+ for my own leather jacket)
cbr250r = $3000
saftey = $80
plates, sticker and registration = $150
insurance = $865 yearly
gas = $???
so this year alone. just to start this, i would be spending roughly around $5170. is it worth it? yes. why? because i've asked myself knowing full well that i'd spend over $5k just to start a hobby, i'd do it all over again. that's just the start of it. that doesn't include my own leather jacket which would cost $700+, another set of gloves, a back up helmet, riding pants and whatever upgrades i would do on the bike.
i have stopped and sacrificed my other hobbies for the 1 reason, and it's to ride a motorcycle. so i know that i'm 100% sure it's worth it.
El Cockblock
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Like farkle said, it's all relative.
I spend around 5-6k a year on my bike, and I work my *** off during and off school to make it happen, but it's 100% worth it. I can't imagine life without riding anymore. On the other hand if the girls I date get out of hand they're replaceablemy Daytona is not. My family has a cottage and the grandparents have told me when they pass on the property and house come to me. I've told them already it's getting sold off immediately as the yearly maintenance/operating costs exceed $8000 and that's bike money.
Don't tell them that, otherwise they'll leave the house to the neighbours' cat.
Lol they thought about giving it to my cousin after I told them that but they hate my aunt, so...what cha gonna do right
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El Cockblock
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I don't even want to make notes on what I've spent so far... I've been riding for a very short period of time and had wanted to do it my entire life.
I enjoy it tremendously and it's an escape from everyday life.
The pleasure of riding greatly overweights the cost.
I enjoy it tremendously and it's an escape from everyday life.
The pleasure of riding greatly overweights the cost.
Owen SS
Member
First year rider just putting out my thoughts.
I'm a young 20's rider, started with modifying my cobalt ss. It moves pretty good, but I'm done modifying unless i want to get a shop to help me. Figured a bike would give that excited feeling that the car at WOT does, at a lot less cost.
Haven't ridden yet, but I've got a 2002 Ninja 500R, and here are my costs:
$450 bike course
$2000 bike
$2000 insurance (goes to $750 next year)
$500 equipment.
Gas / parts I feel are negligible, as they would be twice the cost as if it were a car getting those kilometers.
so 5k first year riding, down to roughly $1000 the next. Can't wait to get out there. The "fear" part might force me back to a car, but I really hope not, it's too expensive.
I'm a young 20's rider, started with modifying my cobalt ss. It moves pretty good, but I'm done modifying unless i want to get a shop to help me. Figured a bike would give that excited feeling that the car at WOT does, at a lot less cost.
Haven't ridden yet, but I've got a 2002 Ninja 500R, and here are my costs:
$450 bike course
$2000 bike
$2000 insurance (goes to $750 next year)
$500 equipment.
Gas / parts I feel are negligible, as they would be twice the cost as if it were a car getting those kilometers.
so 5k first year riding, down to roughly $1000 the next. Can't wait to get out there. The "fear" part might force me back to a car, but I really hope not, it's too expensive.
daught
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I am reconsidering riding. Insurance costs me $1500ish for an F2. Thing is, I enjoy riding my mountain bike more and more. To get it places I have to drive. My biggest worry is speed and it's consequences. At the speeds I like to ride at in corners, if my bike lowsides chances are I hit the ditch at triple digit speeds. I travel a lot in the summer so I don't get to ride all summer. Yea... I have a life outside MCs. Anyways, considering the bike costs me at least $2000 a year, I find it hard to pay considering the danger I put myself in to really enjoy it. With those 2K I could ski in BC for a month, which is way more fun. If insurance was under $500, I would have no problem keeping my bike for some fun once in a while.
I been itching to get a fun car again. I am thinking a miata(no-homo) might be a fun replacement. I can put my mtb on it and go places with it and my gf.
I been itching to get a fun car again. I am thinking a miata(no-homo) might be a fun replacement. I can put my mtb on it and go places with it and my gf.
The OP has a legitimate point though. Every winter I have a month or so where I play around with the idea of how much I could save if I stopped riding. I do some pretty serious number crunching (as posted before) and the numbers worry me.
....then summer roles around and after the first ride I forget why I ever worried lol
Dave L
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buy a dual sport bike
daught
Well-known member
I had a SMC. Wasn't ideal around here. You need to get way out there with DS bikes. Anything thats good off road is small and it's a pain to ride to the trails out of TO. Bigger DS is pretty useless off roads. My F2 is not too shabby on gravel roads anyways. It's seen more dirt than many DS bikes.
I don't keep track at all, but I can guarantee it's over $5000. Insurance alone is just over $3000, I've spent well over $1000 in farkles already this year. Parts for maintenance are probably another couple hundred (that's if my stator doesn't go this year), and then my labour is probably an easy thousand all together. When it comes down to it, I'll bet most of us will be close if not over $5000/year.
Don't forget tires guys.
Don't forget tires guys.
Jeez, now I'm really depressed, according to my spreadsheet, having sex doesn't make financial sense either
Make kids and they give you money after you retire.
