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There is little doubt that China is a big problem area concerning CO2 emissions.

They're also strongly pushing for electric vehicles and non-CO2-emitting power generation.
 
There is little doubt that China is a big problem area concerning CO2 emissions.

They're also strongly pushing for electric vehicles and non-CO2-emitting power generation.
Fantastic way to keep positve . They will build more coal fired power plants to power the electric cars .
 
I don't know how the local populace (in China) will manage if there are sudden changes to the way they do things...
Don't the poor outnumber the middle and upper class in society there?

Things are bad enough for them as it is...maybe its a good thing birth rates have fallen in the US and China lately..?



Curious to see what the ramifications are over the next few years...
 
I don't know how the local populace (in China) will manage if there are sudden changes to the way they do things...
Don't the poor outnumber the middle and upper class in society there?

Things are bad enough for them as it is...maybe its a good thing birth rates have fallen in the US and China lately..?



Curious to see what the ramifications are over the next few years...
I wondered if the opposite could have happened. With a few other shorter term disasters there were birth spikes. The Mississauga rail disaster and one of the big blackout were two. I can understand the blackout as there was no TV.
 
Same people fit these three....
  • Cry over and over that we cannot change the way we do things environmentally too quickly (or maybe not at all) because it will have some economic impact or at least require adjustments.
  • Cry that the world's largest country population wise (China) is not changing the way they do things environmentally fast enough.
  • Then cry the rest of the world should not do anything at all because of China....
Sums this one up.

BTW China has a decent plan and they totally understand that they cannot continue to scale like they do but they also need to keep their economy going. Like EVERYONE else they cannot flip an energy switch over night, they need to transition. China has been trending up over the last couple of decades tracking with their strong economic growth and much of China is still developing... The REAL risk the western world has is China may end up owning and being the most technologically advanced when it comes to clean energy if we can't get our act together, held back because of people that fit into the three points above.

2019 CO2 emissions per capita, (not posting numbers for everyone, filtered for somewhat interesting economies):

CountryPer capita CO2 emissions
United Arab Emirates19.515204
Saudi Arabia16.987645
Australia16.308204
United States16.059735
Canada15.413929
South Korea11.932908
Russia11.50575
Oceania11.206287
Taiwan11.047335
Iran9.401627
Netherlands9.055776
Japan8.72351
Belgium8.641033
Poland8.515269
Germany8.404937
South Africa8.173232
Norway7.890091
Austria7.648816
New Zealand7.639758
Finland7.529393
China7.096383
Hong Kong5.585846
Italy5.567072
Denmark5.557085
United Kingdom5.477246
Spain5.406492
France4.970784
World4.724384
Sweden4.261321
Mexico3.437148
Brazil2.206661

India, not in the above chart looks to be around 1.9t BTW.

Many reasons countries are low or high, developing world trends lower and are trending upwards over time, developed world has a mix or low and wasteful idiots. Critical thinking is required to see what is really going on and to have half a legit idea of the future.
 
I don't know how the local populace (in China) will manage if there are sudden changes to the way they do things...
Don't the poor outnumber the middle and upper class in society there?

Things are bad enough for them as it is...maybe its a good thing birth rates have fallen in the US and China lately..?



Curious to see what the ramifications are over the next few years...
Germany went the way of mass immigration to boost population . It backfired on them . Rather then them getting cheap labour . The people that emigrated chose instead to use their generous saftey net and not work .
 
unless you would be in the .01% , what sort of third world craphole would you have to be exiting if China was on your radar as a new home?
 

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