Recovering from a false neutral..

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Have had it happen from time to time on the new bike. I'm assuming it's rider error and I'm not shifting up positively enough. I also think my pegs need adjustment because I find it uncomfortable sliding my boot under the shifter.

What's the best way to recover from this? The sound of the transmission jerking into gear after is heartbreaking. I'm guessing it's absolutely terrible for the box. Any tips?
 
What bike are you riding?

Just pull in the clutch and give it another go. Sounds like you are being to gentle on the shifter, or if your bike is junk you may have other problems so we're back to my first questions.

Cheers.
 
It's definitely not the bike - I am extremely gentle on the shifter because of the riding position. As I said - I'll need to adjust the pegs for better clearance (I'm shifting with the side of my boot now). I have a '07 gixxer.

Once I stop shifting with the side of my boot and am able to pop my foot in there it'll be fine.
 
As soon as you hear/feel something wrong just pull the clutch, you can usually save the bike from stalling.
 
jukon said:
As soon as you hear/feel something wrong just pull the clutch, you can usually save the bike from stalling.
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Yeah I do that - what's the best way to get it back into gear without stopping again? (highway)
 
e90 said:
Yeah I do that - what's the best way to get it back into gear without stopping again? (highway)
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You pull clutch, click up into gear, and release clutch -- just like you always do.

If you end up revving the crap out of it while in neutral, just let the RPM fall to where they should be before letting out the clutch. I've accidentally caused/done this on my bike more than a few times (going too easy when shifting), and I don't think I've ever stalled it/stopped once.

Also unless you are sitting in traffic, why would you be in 1st on the highway (unless you are merging maybe)?
 
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It's definitely not the bike - I am extremely gentle on the shifter because of the riding position. As I said - I'll need to adjust the pegs for better clearance (I'm shifting with the side of my boot now). I have a '07 gixxer.

Once I stop shifting with the side of my boot and am able to pop my foot in there it'll be fine.
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Don't adjust the footpegs, adjust the levers. Both the rear brake lever and shift lever can be adjusted up or down by screwing in or out their respective actuating rods.
 
Just give it another go, clutch in, shift up, clutch out. Its not that bad, it happens occasionally. You are right though, you need to be more aggressive with your shifting, this happens when you dont pull up hard enough on the shift lever (assuming the bike is in good working order). I would adjust the shifter as soon as possible.
 
-clutch in.
-kick into gear.
-snap the throttle open quickly(your trying to rev match here but you don't have to be right on the money)
-let the clutch out slowly as the rpm is just starting to fall(at this point you can feel if your getting too much engine braking'
If you are getting too much engine brake repeat these steps until you get into a gear that is suitable for the speed you are travelling.

^^^This should all be done in a second or two

Atleast that is how I do it...
 
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Only time I ever shift up and get into neutral instead of the next gear is when I'm being too gentle on shifter.
 
Quickshift instead lol

At around 6k rpm or higher, apply pressure to the shift lever (pushing up), drop the throttle a little, click up with foot, and back on throttle!
 
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Quickshift instead lol

At around 6k rpm or higher, apply pressure to the shift lever (pushing up), drop the throttle a little, click up with foot, and back on throttle!
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hahaha - that's an option.

But yeah I basically have been too easy on the gearshift coming from the 250... I'll be sure to be more aggressive with it and play around with the rearset positioning to find what's comfortable for me. I'm very good at blipping/rev matching (have had lots of practice at southern ontario tracks in the car).. Even when I revmatch it still makes an uncomfortable sound :S

Going to get in the practice of grabbing it by the scruff of it's neck and kicking it into gear.. unlike the 250 where I could gently upshift using poetry and subtle charm.

Thanks guys!

EDIT: I might actually be better off adjusting the shift lever instead to be honest and raise it a little bit so that I can get underneath it better..
 
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e90 said:
EDIT: I might actually be better off adjusting the shift lever instead to be honest and raise it a little bit so that I can get underneath it better..
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For sure. There's no reason the controls would happen to fit you just as they were when you bought the bike. They're adjustable because people are different. I wish someone had explained that too me before I spent a few years with the levers in the wrong position!
 
Suzuki TU250X. Some people have been able to fiddle with it but from what they said I get the impression it's not a documented procedure because it's all fiddly having to do it "just so". I never tried myself however.
 
e 90 you had a 250 and have upgraded to a gixxer right???

you still find false neutrals??

Going too easy on the shifter will do it...Falking done it so many times now meself but coming out of it...

now my new method of showing I'm a noob is to try and ride away with the kickstand down!:p
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