Random Kijiji Seller

If your interested I have on for sale. 2012 Black and Silver Honda CBR 250 ABS. Only 3k kms. I am the original owner.

It comes with all the fairings to make the bike complete black and tinted wind screen. All Original Honda Parts.

Also,

It comes with front and rear stand, Yoshimura TRC Carbon Exhaust, Yoshimura Fender Eliminator and My Favorite, Batman Tank Protector.

I am asking 4K. Pm me if your interested. Bike is in Scarborough.
 
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Given the amount of crappy replies you have to wade through on kijiji, I would have welcomed a reply like the OP's.
 
This is exactly why I have a template of responses. 99% of the kijiji time-waster's have the same questions.


"Is this still available?" (even though the ad clearly states that it is)

"Will you take $200, my right lung and rights to name my second kid?" (No, shooo)

"How many kms"

"do you have receipts for work done"

"I get my OSAP money next week.. can you wait till then?"


etc. etc.
 
Just putting it out there... Why email?

Serious buyers will call and serious sellers will put their phone numbers on the ad.
Having a conversation with the person will tell you so much more about the bike and and seller than endless email exchanges can.

I found a good deal a few months ago on a luxury SUV in London .. it was the right color, options, price, one owner etc. So I quickly called the guy asked him all the questions I needed to know and did a quick assesment of the type of person he seemed to be. I told him I was serious, would come down with cash and as long as the truck was what he said it was I would give him exactly what he wanted for it.

He had two guys coming to see the truck before me (it would take me 3 hours to get the cash from 3 different branches, grab someone to drive oen of the cars back, and drive there from the GTA). I offered to give him a deposit over interact to show him I was serious, he declined it saying he trusted me and as long as I wanted it I could have it.

3 hours later I drove the truck home. easy as that.
 
Well, I have something for sale on Kijiji at this time. I'll tell you, the idiot replies to my ad are more than bothersome. Low balling, asking questions that are already answered in the ad. The first person that made an offer and then emailed again to say he replied to the wrong ad....Come on, read the ad correctly. Eventually sellers get to the point were they go postal on some of the responders. That being said, you can advertise for free so I guess you just need to relax and deal with the morons.
 
Just putting it out there... Why email?

Serious buyers will call and serious sellers will put their phone numbers on the ad.
Having a conversation with the person will tell you so much more about the bike and and seller than endless email exchanges can.

I found a good deal a few months ago on a luxury SUV in London .. it was the right color, options, price, one owner etc. So I quickly called the guy asked him all the questions I needed to know and did a quick assesment of the type of person he seemed to be. I told him I was serious, would come down with cash and as long as the truck was what he said it was I would give him exactly what he wanted for it.

He had two guys coming to see the truck before me (it would take me 3 hours to get the cash from 3 different branches, grab someone to drive oen of the cars back, and drive there from the GTA). I offered to give him a deposit over interact to show him I was serious, he declined it saying he trusted me and as long as I wanted it I could have it.

3 hours later I drove the truck home. easy as that.

Not everyone is comfortable with talking over the phone. Also, emails give you time to do some more research/due diligence as oppose to having to respond on the spot and just saying some mumbo jumbo.

Some people don't understand that posting an ad on Kijiji,for example, doesn't mean you'll instantly have someone respond with "ill buy the bike now". It's a negotiation. Much like when you go to a dealership and you try to negotiate and get some information before you make the purchase. Even when you're getting a brand new bike, you'd still want some more information, right? And that's a brand new bike. Everything is listed on the brochure, yet you still want the salesperson to provide you with whatever information you are looking for. How would you feel if you went into a dealership, asked your questions and the salesperson just handed you a brochure and said "everything is listed there, let me know when you have the money"? It's part of selling. If you didn't want random email responses, don't post your ad in a online public marketplace. Make some signs or post in the newspaper classifieds and put your number and/or address if you think the only way to find out if the buyer is serious is if he gives you a ring or shows up at your doorstep.
 
"Will you take $200, my right lung and rights to name my second kid?" (No, shooo)
"I get my OSAP money next week.. can you wait till then?"

Kills me every time I read the osap comment. I don't know why it's so funny.
I'm not sure hy students are so stupid with their money. The interest after grad is going to be a heavy burden. I took osap, but invested all of it into securities.
 
I found this email from a while back... Seems like you can copy paste the text for almost any add.....

HELLLO
SELLER,
*HOW R YOU DOING TODAY I HOPE ALL IS WELL WITH YOU THERE , AM SANDRA FROM CALIFORNIA .**
* AM INTERESTING IN YOUR ITEM LISTED ON CRAIGLIST , I WILL BE VERYY HAPPY IF YOU DONT MIND SELLING IT TO ME , ALSO I WILL LIKE TO KNOW THE LAST ASKING PRICE AND IT CONDITION SO THAT I CAN KNOW WHAT TO DO NEXT,** AM PAYING BY CHECK PLS LET ME KNOW IF YOU R OKAY WITH MY OPNION PAYMENT OKAY

Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
 
People on Kijiji are generally ********. Get used to it if you're shopping on it. Even if you get decent replies (and you're lucky if anyone even replies to an email) most of the vehicles don't match what they're saying or have a pile of problems. That said, I still sell all mine on there and buy them as well but it takes a lot of time and effort. Last time I bought on car on there I must've paid for safety inspections on at least 5 cars that were claimed to have already been inspected and passed that all failed and needed thousands of dollars of work. Plus driven thousands of kms looking at them usually just to turn and leave right away because the car was falling apart instead of being in "excellent condition", as advertised.

That said, I wouldn't care where it was bought. The UVIP is a valid question since it's supposed to be the seller's job to supply one for any used vehicle.
 
Kills me every time I read the osap comment. I don't know why it's so funny.
I'm not sure hy students are so stupid with their money. The interest after grad is going to be a heavy burden. I took osap, but invested all of it into securities.

What amazes me is I've met idiots that just thought it was free money. Then they say, "What did they expect when they gave an 18 year old all that money?!" Um... they probably expected that you weren't a moron.
 
Kills me every time I read the osap comment. I don't know why it's so funny.
I'm not sure hy students are so stupid with their money. The interest after grad is going to be a heavy burden. I took osap, but invested all of it into securities.

The sad part is, you and me will end up paying it back for them when they can't...

I died a little inside. :(
 
The UVIP is a valid question since it's supposed to be the seller's job to supply one for any used vehicle.

It's a valid question but as a seller I'd have to wonder why, of all the possible bike related questions, did that get asked right off the hop? Is that going to be a stumbling block going forward? The UVIP is cheap and can be acquired in due course. "Oh, sorry, I don't have the UVIP" Holy Hell, now what!?
 
It's a valid question but as a seller I'd have to wonder why, of all the possible bike related questions, did that get asked right off the hop? Is that going to be a stumbling block going forward? The UVIP is cheap and can be acquired in due course. "Oh, sorry, I don't have the UVIP" Holy Hell, now what!?

Then he should get it. If a seller doesn't have a UVIP I usually worry about liens owing. Last time I bought a vehicle I never asked about the UVIP. Seller never brought it when he dropped off the bike. Had to run to go get it. Sure enough there is a $5000 lien on a bike I'm paying $4500 for. We worked it out but if he had been a bigger dick and I had been less informed, I could've gotten screwed pretty bad.
 
3 grand, for a 250?!

Also, his reply was hilarious. What a ******.
A friend of mine just sold one for more than that easily

Lol at the response - Too many questions, can't read much, braiinnnnn hurrrttssss
 
To answer your question of why asking for the UVIP right away is that, you can tell a lot about the seller if they have everything they need to sell the bike. If he already has the UVIP, it tells me that they are meticulous and most likely care about selling the bike quickly. Also that they have taken care of that bike. And no liens etc.
 
Then he should get it. If a seller doesn't have a UVIP I usually worry about liens owing. Last time I bought a vehicle I never asked about the UVIP. Seller never brought it when he dropped off the bike. Had to run to go get it. Sure enough there is a $5000 lien on a bike I'm paying $4500 for. We worked it out but if he had been a bigger dick and I had been less informed, I could've gotten screwed pretty bad.

Yes, I get that. I'm just trying to get into the sellers headspace because we're trying to explore why he reacted that way. I'm not on the sellers side, if we're picking sides. So basically, as the seller, the buyer's asking me if I'm legit, am I hiding something? Depending on my mood after 10pm, that could go a number of different ways. Why not start with questions about the bike rather than the sellers legitimacy?
 
To answer your question of why asking for the UVIP right away is that, you can tell a lot about the seller if they have everything they need to sell the bike. If he already has the UVIP, it tells me that they are meticulous and most likely care about selling the bike quickly. Also that they have taken care of that bike. And no liens etc.

That makes sense. I'm looking for clues all the time. Some people advertise the bike as "certified" but it's not atm. They don't want to invested in the time and money until a sale is ensured. Same with UVIP.
 
Not everyone is comfortable with talking over the phone. Also, emails give you time to do some more research/due diligence as oppose to having to respond on the spot and just saying some mumbo jumbo.

Some people don't understand that posting an ad on Kijiji,for example, doesn't mean you'll instantly have someone respond with "ill buy the bike now". It's a negotiation. Much like when you go to a dealership and you try to negotiate and get some information before you make the purchase. Even when you're getting a brand new bike, you'd still want some more information, right? And that's a brand new bike. Everything is listed on the brochure, yet you still want the salesperson to provide you with whatever information you are looking for. How would you feel if you went into a dealership, asked your questions and the salesperson just handed you a brochure and said "everything is listed there, let me know when you have the money"? It's part of selling. If you didn't want random email responses, don't post your ad in a online public marketplace. Make some signs or post in the newspaper classifieds and put your number and/or address if you think the only way to find out if the buyer is serious is if he gives you a ring or shows up at your doorstep.

100% in agreement here. Couldn't have said it better myself.
 
That makes sense. I'm looking for clues all the time. Some people advertise the bike as "certified" but it's not atm. They don't want to invested in the time and money until a sale is ensured. Same with UVIP.

I'm probably selling the FZ6 this spring "certified"... Except I'll only take it in for the safety once I have a deal with someone. I'm not wasting the cash to have a piece of paper signed to not sell the bike in the time frame and have to spend that money again.
Of course, I can only do this knowing that the bike will pass safety.

I've sold enough things on kijiji I can weed out the bad "buyers" fairly quick... Sometimes I toy with them a bit. I had a guy ready to meet for my latest sale until I mentioned I would be armed (he offered me an insult of an offer so I played around a bit)... I didn't get a response lol.

Any time I've bought something I've either texted or called.
My last purchase I found by calling someone advertising a bunch of parts, I needed a transmission that isn't easy to find. So I called him out of curiosity, he didn't have one but his neighbour had what I wanted. You want a long trip for something? Petawawa to Grand Bend... yup. I talked with the dude on the phone like 30 minutes asking questions and getting a feel for the fella because of the distance. Transmission was what was expected when I showed up.
 
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Not everyone is comfortable with talking over the phone. Also, emails give you time to do some more research/due diligence as oppose to having to respond on the spot and just saying some mumbo jumbo.

Some people don't understand that posting an ad on Kijiji,for example, doesn't mean you'll instantly have someone respond with "ill buy the bike now". It's a negotiation. Much like when you go to a dealership and you try to negotiate and get some information before you make the purchase. Even when you're getting a brand new bike, you'd still want some more information, right? And that's a brand new bike. Everything is listed on the brochure, yet you still want the salesperson to provide you with whatever information you are looking for. How would you feel if you went into a dealership, asked your questions and the salesperson just handed you a brochure and said "everything is listed there, let me know when you have the money"? It's part of selling. If you didn't want random email responses, don't post your ad in a online public marketplace. Make some signs or post in the newspaper classifieds and put your number and/or address if you think the only way to find out if the buyer is serious is if he gives you a ring or shows up at your doorstep.


I'm not saying you have to call, but if you want a better interaction with the seller it's in your best interest.

I've bought and sold over a 150 cars/bikes/trucks in the last 20 years on kijiji/autotrder/buy&sell(remember that one?). Within the last year I think the spam, ignorant buyers/sellers have gotten exponentially worse.
90% of emails are guys offering offensive offers , ie : comps-$9500,asking-$8500, email offering-$3000!
There is a whole bunch of people that actually make a living scouring kijiji lowballing in mass and then seeing who emails them back, they then sell the item in kijiji for twice what they paid for it, sometimes even using the same pics from the original listing! That's why it can be so frustrating for a seller to deal with emails sometimes.

I promise you that you will have a more pleasant transaction if you muster up the courage to call the seller.
I know it can be a little nerve wracking at first but remember the seller wants you to call them, so don't feel nervous. Be polite when you call and treat the guy like a friend... Heck you both like the same bike, chances are you guys would probably get along anyways! :) (I'm friends with at least half the guys I've sold my vehicles too!)

Here are a few tips before you call:
1. Make sure you have the funds ready to close the deal if this turns out to be what you want.
2. Research the model thoroughly before, so you know exactly what to ask the guy and so you know if this is the bike for you. The seller isn't a professional salesman (this is a good thing) so don't expect him to be.
3. Write down all your questions you want to ask on an a pad of paper.
4. When you call write down the sellers name and phone number on top of the questions along with the make an model of the bike.
5. Ask the seller to tell you about the bike. This will let you get a feel for the seller.
6. Ask your questions and see I the seller was withholding any information from his initial description. This is a potential red-flag so just be aware of it.

Call all the bikes of that model that meet your Budget on kijiji and keep all your notes.
From there decide which ones you want to see.

This will make buying the right bike a MUCH quicker painless process, you will be able to negotiate a better deal, and maybe even make a friend in the process.

For the record the kijiji seller in the OP was just ignorant, if he was too frustrated with emailing he shouldn't have replied. There is never a good reason to be rude to someone. :)
 
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