Rad leak

[toysareforboys]

Well, I just found out that last Thurs my radiator froze in my bike When I started it up today it was pissing water out of 6 or 7 holes in the radiator

On the search for a new or used 07/08 R1 radiator

-Jamie M.

 

[carboncat]

Re: TMP lapping day Oct. 6-8

Jamie , bring it
To a rad shop for repair ! They can probably fix it for Sunday at least !

 

[toysareforboys]

Re: TMP lapping day Oct. 6-8

Jamie , bring it
To a rad shop for repair ! They can probably fix it for Sunday at least !

I talked to one guy, but he said he doesn't repair aluminum (which he thought mine was)?

I have a few rad repair places to call in the A.M.!

-Jamie M.

 

[Jayv]

Re: TMP lapping day Oct. 6-8

Try these guys Jamie.

http://www.brooklincycle.com/

 

[toysareforboys]

Re: TMP lapping day Oct. 6-8

Try these guys Jamie.

http://www.brooklincycle.com/

That's the best website I've ever seen! LOL!

I bought a YEC sprocket off them a few weeks ago, I'll give them a shout.

I found a brand new OEM radiator for $224 plus shipping, but unsure if a) it's in stock, b) if they ship to canada and c) if they could ship it so I get it before the weekend

I talked to a few people, they said impossible my radiator froze, said it hasn't got below 5 degrees C any night so far! They think it was corrosion!

I was running tap water (as per Asmoil's recommendation) with their Dominator Coolant Boost product (similar to water wetter): http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/rdcb.aspx

I put the tap water/amsoil stuff in it Sept 1st. Do you think it'd be possible that it corroded my radiator so quickly? My bike only has 15k km's on it!?

Hmmmmmmm.

-Jamie M.

 

[Jayv]

Re: TMP lapping day Oct. 6-8

Maybe you auto-tuned the bike so hard that the rad gave up

No idea with the amsoil, i'm also with the other 99% that use water wetter.

 

[toysareforboys]

Re: TMP lapping day Oct. 6-8

No idea with the amsoil, i'm also with the other 99% that use water wetter.

LOL Do you use distilled water?

-Jamie M.

 

[Jayv]

Re: TMP lapping day Oct. 6-8

LOL Do you use distilled water?

-Jamie M.

You can use tap water but distilled is preferred.

http://www.redlineoil.com/content/files/tech/WaterWetter%20Tech%20Info.pdf

 

[toysareforboys]

Re: TMP lapping day Oct. 6-8

You can use tap water but distilled is preferred.

I e-mailed Amsoil to confirm, before I ordered the Dominator Coolant Boost, here is their answer:

Amsoil recommends the use of tap or softened water if mixing ADCB (Amsoil Dominator Coolant Boost) in straight water applications.

Distilled or demineralized water should only be used if it is going to be mixed with at least a minimum of 35% coolant to 65% water ratio. The coolant is required to neutralize the aggressiveness of the mineral hungry water.

Passive surface films must be created to properly protect the soft metals in the cooling system. The passivation process requires heat and flow in the system using either glycol, and/or ADCB surfactant to effectively develop these surface films. ADCB will develop this protective layer with straight water at 1.5 ounce/ quart ratio, or with a water/ coolant combination with ADCB added at a 1 ounce/ quart ratio.

The key is to immediately run the vehicle once the radiator has been filled. Storing a new radiator, with only water, particularly distilled, and ADCB may allow for bacterial growth and/ or corrosion of the untreated surfaces, both of which may result in leaks, or damage to the radiator. Using distilled water will increase the radiator's susceptibility to damage as distilled water is not electrochemically balanced; it is stripped of impurities and therefore ionically hungry, which will cause it to attack soft metals more aggressively. Drinking, spring, or softened are the recommended water types for use in a radiator, particularly in racing applications.

They made it sound super horrible to use distilled water in my bike!?

I'm at a loss, no idea what happened to my radiator I guess I'll order up a new one and drop the old by a shop for forensic analysis and possible repair as a spare

-Jamie M.

 

[Jayv]

Re: TMP lapping day Oct. 6-8

I have a bottle of water wetter you can use after you get your rad situation sorted out

 

[toysareforboys]

Re: TMP lapping day Oct. 6-8

I have a bottle of water wetter you can use after you get your rad situation sorted out

You don't think it could possibly be a reaction between the Amsoil stuff and the aluminum, could you?!?! EEEEK!

-Jamie M.

 

[dossantos25]

Re: TMP lapping day Oct. 6-8

I assume only water is allowed in the cooling system ? just picked up track gear and would like to hit one before the season is out!

 

[caboose56]

I doubt it.

I use a Cox rad guard for my bike, used one on my last bike too. Sticky tires kick up a lot of debris. If you're following around other bikes at the track you will be taking rock strikes to the front of your bike. Under $100 from Tony at Bluestreak.

I would guess that your leaks are a result of a few rock strikes, not from corrosion. Aluminum is a pretty standard rad material, I'd be very surprised if the Amsoil additive is incompatible with aluminum.

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[toysareforboys]

Re: TMP lapping day Oct. 6-8

I assume only water is allowed in the cooling system ? just picked up track gear and would like to hit one before the season is out!

Yep, water + water wetter only, no coolant, no engine ice, etc. Full tech is here: http://www.torontomotorsportspark.com/images/File/Motorcycle-Tech-(2011)-OW.pdf

I doubt it.

I use a Cox rad guard for my bike, used one on my last bike too. Sticky tires kick up a lot of debris. If you're following around other bikes at the track you will be taking rock strikes to the front of your bike. Under $100 from Tony at Bluestreak.

I would guess that your leaks are a result of a few rock strikes, not from corrosion.

Yeah, after I get a new rad I'll get a radiator guard for sure. I've ridden on the street so much and never ever had a rock strike on the radiator, but I guess there's a first for everything

-Jamie M.

 

[silverbullet132]

Look into a fender extender too if one is made for your bike.

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[dossantos25]

Ideally use distilled water ?

 

[toysareforboys]

Does everyone use a Zip-tie to tie up the side stand ? what do you do when returning to the pit area ?

I use a zip-tie. Some people break them when they pull into the pits so they can use their kickstand, then re-zip for the next session. Some are good enough to hold their bike up and put it on the rear stand when they pull in.

I cheat and use the automatic ride-in wheel chocks Got mine from Royal Distributing on sale for $68: http://www.cerka.ca/comersus7f/store/comersus_viewItem.asp?idProduct=45

Works sweet!

Rear stand is only there cause I was lubing my chain and preppin it for the track.

-Jamie M.

 

[toysareforboys]

Ideally use distilled water ?

Tons of people do, Amsoil says never do it, so I dunno. I guess distilled water + water wetter is tried, tested, true.

-Jamie M.

 

[Jayv]

Ideally use distilled water ?

If you are using water wetter or Amsoil or something else, it's best to follow the instructions/directions on the bottle.

 

[toysareforboys]

Figure out anything for the rad jamie ?

Due to the infraction warning I received in the other thread, I'll reply to you here.

I was able to find a rad in Cambridge, hopefully everything will work out and I can get it on Friday. Shouldn't have a problem having it ready for my track day, I figure I'll just do the Sunday track day at TMP.

In other news my new steering damper arrived! Hopefully I get my rad installed so I can try it out on the weekend! WOOT!

-Jamie M.