Racer5 BYOB for the intro program?

If you wreck their bike do you have to pay a penalty? I'd rather learn on a bike I'm paying to rent but don't have to worry if I drop it. Kind of like the first RTI course I took. I would not have wanted to have my own bike at that unless it was a beat up old dirtbike or something.

Yes but there's a cap. These numbers may change but when I highsided the 125, I had to pay the maximum ($500). On the flip side, if I had highsided my GSXR the same way, I'd have to buy a new bike. So in some ways, it is actually far cheaper.
 
Noob question...but what is highsiding your bike?

油井緋色;2475822 said:
Yes but there's a cap. These numbers may change but when I highsided the 125, I had to pay the maximum ($500). On the flip side, if I had highsided my GSXR the same way, I'd have to buy a new bike. So in some ways, it is actually far cheaper.
 
Noob question...but what is highsiding your bike?
Leaned over during a turn and rear starts sliding out. If it suddenly grips again the bike will flip over and catapult you into the air and then go flipping all over the place. Generally the bike is destroyed and the rider isn't doing so well.

Probably tons of videos of it on YouTube.
 
Noob question...but what is highsiding your bike?

Simple explanation:

High side = when you go down by being thrown off the motorcycle into the air
Low side = when you go down and you slide on the ground without being ejected off the bike

This is a (bad) highside:

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Simple explanation:

High side = when you go down by being thrown off the motorcycle into the air
Low side = when you go down and you slide on the ground without being ejected off the bike

This is a (bad) highside:

Also....

Low side = slide across the ground and usually don't get hurt. Feels like a mild hockey check against the boards.
High side = broken bones and have to go to hospital.
 
Oh wow...I look at this and my brain wonders...am I crazy?? Then the heart just steps in and says...just be careful and enjoy!

Thx everyone for the detailed explanation of a high side and a low side.
 
So I spoke to Fawaz from Racer5 today. Details below:-
Stages 1 - 3 cost $899.00 + HST = $1015.87 total (this INCLUDES the bike rental, so I was worrying for nought)
Gear rental = $50 / day + HST = $150 (for three days) + HST = $169.50 (you will need this unless you have one piece leather or two piece w/360 zipper, with CE level rated armour, CE level rated back protector, proper racing boots, gauntlet style gloves)
February 28th is the cut off date to get the $899 deal (but Fawaz told me that they are already sold out for June, and they only have 8 or 10 can't remember, spots available for May 12-14. I wanted this so I just registered today.
You don't have to pay the full amount up front...you can pay 50% of the entire amount as a deposit (in my case $1015.87 + $169.50 divide by 2).

Fawaz also said that they offer the rental money ($150) back as a credit to purchase the actual riding gear from them.

Disclaimer:- This is how I understood it, please confirm everything I have said with Fawaz at Racer5.

Hope this helps everyone!

Thanks it was great speaking with you Aqueeb, sorry we don't follow this site as much as I we could and I apologize for the delay in contacting you.

If you wreck their bike do you have to pay a penalty? I'd rather learn on a bike I'm paying to rent but don't have to worry if I drop it. Kind of like the first RTI course I took. I would not have wanted to have my own bike at that unless it was a beat up old dirtbike or something.

We understand that when you are learning a whole new skillset you run the risk of dropping the bike. We actually think its a great learning experience when this happens as if it happens on the track it was bound to happen on the street once you got pushed to that limit (ie, unexpected decreasing radius turn, etc).
This way we are able to assess what caused the incident, and tune that out of your riding.
The biggest street riding habits we combat at the beginning are target fixation and abrupt "safety" braking in the middle of a turn.
Both of these are very easy to read about and convince yourself that you won't do, but to be able to put it into play when you are in a life or death situation is a totally different matter.
We are able to put you in this situation in a controlled environment, with guidance of a pro instructor that will be focusing your riding for 8 hours a day for 3 days.
We understand that there is a chance you may drop the bike, and its welcomed as that means we have a better chance of training you to not make that mistake on the street and potentially save your life.
This is why we never charge an additional fee for insurance, all of our bikes come with insurance and a reasonable deductible.
We don't think it would be fair for us to profit - either by charging "insurance" or putting students on the hook for what could be exorbitant repair costs when they are trying to learn a skill which may save their life.
The bikes (125) come with a $500 deductible, anything beyond this is not a students responsibility.
Its also not very common for a student to actually hit the max deductible on one of our bikes (less than 10 students out of 7 years of operating this program), average repair costs usually range in the $0-$220 range.
On average less than 5% of students drop their bikes over the course of a weekend.
the bikes are made to be very forgiving in terms of repair costs. We have an breakdown of repair costs on the sign up tab of our page.
This is also why we have a graduated program and pre-requisites to move on to bigger and faster bikes.

I have 4 friends taking the racer 5 course in may and 3 that took it last year

You can only ride the 125 they provide over the course of the 3 days... But it's more than enough

Racer 5 will be at the motorcycle show next week... Great opportunity to sit on the bike and ask any questions you may have

Gear rental is $50/day.... You bring your own helmet

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Due to some prior commitments we will not be at this upcoming bike show.
We will be having a sale/open house at our Speedworx location in Markham that we will advertise on here, our website, and our facebook page shortly.
 
Looked all over the website and cant really find a location for their school/track
 
It's at the Grand Bend Motorplex. The course is amazing and you will learn a ton. Fawaz and his crew are exceptional people. Careful though, once I finished my 3 day course I signed up for a weekend of endurance racing and before I could even do the endurance race I had picked up my own SV650 to take to the track this year.

You won't regret doing the 3 days, great for any rider at any level!
 
Just so I understand it's $900 for all three stages? Or $900/stage for a total of $2700?
 
It's at the Grand Bend Motorplex. The course is amazing and you will learn a ton. Fawaz and his crew are exceptional people. Careful though, once I finished my 3 day course I signed up for a weekend of endurance racing and before I could even do the endurance race I had picked up my own SV650 to take to the track this year.

You won't regret doing the 3 days, great for any rider at any level!

Who did you sign up with for the endurance racing?

[edit] Nevermind, just checked Racer5 website
 
Heads up for anyone looking at taking the 3 day course, get a group of friends and book a cottage ASAP.

We had a group of 4, ended up inviting 2 randoms over from Racer5, but finding a place with AC was difficult.

We all agreed it was the absolute best $1200 (food + course + cottage + fuel) we spent in our lives. We got to learn great techniques, race each other, taunt/smack one another as we're passing on the back straight, then drink some beers and laugh/cheer each other on watching our footage over dinner (we had two cameras in the crew).
 
油井緋色;2475974 said:
We got to learn great techniques, race each other, taunt/smack one another as we're passing on the back straight....

Oh so much fail... sigh... somehow it doesn't surprise me though.

To be honest, I'm surprised you weren't tossed out of the program on your ear for that - marshal/instructor obviously didn't see it. Racer5 runs a tight ship, with utmost professionalism, and I know they wouldn't stand for that at all.
 
Oh so much fail... sigh... somehow it doesn't surprise me though.

To be honest, I'm surprised you weren't tossed out of the program on your ear for that - marshal/instructor obviously didn't see it. Racer5 runs a tight ship, with utmost professionalism, and I know they wouldn't stand for that at all.

My buddy rammed into my ex on the back straight (accident obviously). No one was hurt or crashed. Does that make you mad too? Every single time you post quoting me, you'll find someway to take offense in what I say, then insult me. I already apologized for ****ing up everyone's track day 2 years ago as I had no clue the track day would be halted for 3-4 hours if I took the ambulance. If somebody had told me, I would've opted my gf drive me. But once again: that crash really ****ing hurt and I couldn't stand. So if you still have a problem with me, say it to my face next time we're at a track day together.
 
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油井緋色;2476011 said:
But once again: that crash really ****ing hurt and I couldn't stand. So if you still have a problem with me, say it to my face next time we're at a track day together.

No worries. I have zero issues bringing it up with you, personally if you so wish. I've broken my collar bone at a track day and dealt with it. Big whoopee. EVERY time I have quoted you previously is simply due to something you've said that has been grossly inappropriate or dangerous in negligent fashion. Please point out any time I have done anything contrary to what I just said.

My other post was simply in reference to smacking each other down the back straight. It's simply not smart and could easily cause serious injury or damage (to rider and/or bike). Not safe nor appropriate on the track.
The incident with your ex-gf was an accident as you specifically mentioned.

Apologies to Aqueeb and all others for getting off topic.
 
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No worries. I have zero issues bringing it up with you, personally if you so wish. I've broken my collar bone at a track day and dealt with it. Big whoopee.

I honestly don't understand why my break hurt so badly. I've fractured my skull before and felt nothing before passing out into a coma. Anyway, I've apologized to you, three times now, and everyone else publicly for inconveniencing their day. If you want to think you're a better person than me for walking away after breaking your clavicle, kudos to you. With regard to the smacking, we were told to leave room during passes after. With how close my friends and I were in skill level, familiarity with each other's riding styles, and how long (4-5 seconds) it would take to pass each other, there was obviously no danger.
 
油井緋色;2476022 said:
With regard to the smacking, we were told to leave room during passes after. With how close my friends and I were in skill level, familiarity with each other's riding styles, and how long (4-5 seconds) it would take to pass each other, there was obviously no danger.

If you think it's safe and or appropriate to do that at a race track... wow....

And, again, apologies for being off topic, everyone. Done! Please return to your regularly scheduled programming.
 
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