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quebec arrogance

Hudson is an English community. There was an article in the globe about a month ago that Quebec is very concerned about the decline of French .
As you try to keep the French in French , your dealing with a growing younger workforce that realize the glass ceiling is mandated by the province, your not really employable outside your created box


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Evolution.

When a group splits off from the motherland the language and customs are subject to interpretation. Whether it's PQ from France, English Canada from the UK. I'm not sure is it's a good idear.

I need closed captions for some British TV shows and travelling in the southern USA is a challenge for directions.

I was forwarded a memo to meet a guy named Amir in Detroit. The pronunciation in my mind was "a mere" but there was a side note from someone in Oklahoma saying the name was pronounced A mirror. OK My bad.

The guy meets me in the lobby and before I could say anything he says "I'm Amir (a-mere)"

Then it dawned on me. In Oklahoma you look at yourself in a mirror, pronounced a-mere
 
nobbie48 said:
Evolution.

When a group splits off from the motherland the language and customs are subject to interpretation. Whether it's PQ from France, English Canada from the UK. I'm not sure is it's a good idear.
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Not necessarily.

My friend is Italian and he told me that a lot of immigrants who came from Italy in the 50s and 60s strove hard to preserve the culture and language to keep it as faithful to the homeland as possible over the years.

Family and friends who live in present-day Italy who visit their relatives in Canada are shocked to discover that the language and customs are severely outdated, as the culture in Italy has constantly evolved over the last 70-80 years. They said it was like visiting an Amish community, the words and phrases and the way they behaved were horribly archaic and old-fashioned.

My wife came over from Croatia in the 90s, and whenever she goes back to visit her friends and family, they tell her she speaks Croatian like a "nonna" (Granny).
 
I don't like the cigarette smoke here (Montreal). Seems to be what smells like American tobacco.

Cyclists are fing crazy here too
 
Was gone for a week, i see we're in the same position as when i left lol.

Once again, some parts of quebec just don't speak/understand english. It's not required. Several generations of their families have lived like that. They can spend their whole lives not speaking or understanding it, it's not a statement of "anti-English" or "we don't like it" that is just how life is led there and has been led for centuries. I don't think it's that hard to understand. My family had an ESL school right in Qc city (and summer camp) growing up and I'd see first hand what people and kids were taught in school was probably as good as what we get here for FSL. I was always too advanced for ESL programs, and then went to an English CEGEP to finally find some "challenge". It was more of a struggle for the those who hadn't gone to English schools (elementary/secondary) but they'd manage. That was the 1 English "college" out of like 5-6 in the city. So you can imagine that if you don't get any education above high school, you won't be positioned to learn the language unless you have to use it often.

In the middle of a labour shortage, asking for someone who can speak/understand both languages in the construction field to make sure the proper signs are on the road; I doubt it'll be a requirement. It would probably just delay (further) the construction more than anything else.
And yes, on the transcanada the majority of people you'll see will be locals once you step 1h outside of any city of note, and then chances of having them speak or understand english goes down with it unless maybe there's lots of tourism.
 
LePhillou said:
Was gone for a week, i see we're in the same position as when i left lol.

Once again, some parts of quebec just don't speak/understand english. It's not required. Several generations of their families have lived like that. They can spend their whole lives not speaking or understanding it, it's not a statement of "anti-English" or "we don't like it" that is just how life is led there and has been led for centuries. I don't think it's that hard to understand. My family had an ESL school right in Qc city (and summer camp) growing up and I'd see first hand what people and kids were taught in school was probably as good as what we get here for FSL. I was always too advanced for ESL programs, and then went to an English CEGEP to finally find some "challenge". It was more of a struggle for the those who hadn't gone to English schools (elementary/secondary) but they'd manage. That was the 1 English "college" out of like 5-6 in the city. So you can imagine that if you don't get any education above high school, you won't be positioned to learn the language unless you have to use it often.

In the middle of a labour shortage, asking for someone who can speak/understand both languages in the construction field to make sure the proper signs are on the road; I doubt it'll be a requirement. It would probably just delay (further) the construction more than anything else.
And yes, on the transcanada the majority of people you'll see will be locals once you step 1h outside of any city of note, and then chances of having them speak or understand english goes down with it unless maybe there's lots of tourism.
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Stop being arrogant and learn the language you don’t need because we want the signs in it when we pass your village we don’t care about.
 
@LePhillou is quite right, there is a significant population , mostly east of Quebec city and really strong on the south side of the river that are considered Laine Pur , which translates into pure wool . They can trace ancestry back on both sides , 200ys or more , to french imigrants . They are very proud of this , and you can feel the resistance to anything English , leftover from the Nepolionic wars.

Sidebar , my son lives in the middle of Alberta , in Lac La Biche, the next town over in Plomondon , a completely french town with street signs, store signs and all conversation conducted in french. Been that way since the Hudson Bay comapny founded the place .
Working for the government he speaks French , some limited Cree now, Russian because of the huge community , while they mostly stay to themselves , are slowly assimilating into the larger community.

Our country is a really large melting pot , you will find arrogance on both sides . Also ignorance .

And then there are the Dutch.
 
Once again, entertaining and interesting read of this post.
I think many Canadians in the not to distant future will be talking about "Remember when Canada only had two official languages?"
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School in Hamilton where my friend is a speech pathologist, 34 different languages in that school


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LePhillou said:
And yes, on the transcanada the majority of people you'll see will be locals once you step 1h outside of any city of note, and then chances of having them speak or understand english goes down with it unless maybe there's lots of tourism.
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When I was riding up to JBR I stopped in La Sarre to get gas, and was surprised the cashier spoke to me in English. To be honest I completely forgot I was in Quebec and needed to use some French words, yeah dumb touristy of me. It still was a nice exchange without any hiccips
 
I was just in Atlanta last week and had a meeting that included people from Louisianna and the Mississippi delta area . It was a version of American English/French and southern trashtalk. I really wanted subtitles .
 
sburns said:
When I was riding up to JBR I stopped in La Sarre to get gas, and was surprised the cashier spoke to me in English. To be honest I completely forgot I was in Quebec and needed to use some French words, yeah dumb touristy of me. It still was a nice exchange without any hiccips
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counterstory - thinking of riding the Trans-Canada in late fall of 2008. I stopped for gas in I think what was western New Brunswick, and some older guy started speaking concerned French to me. I have to presume he was calling me an idiot, because it was lightly snowing* out

*disclaimer: very lightly
 
I have been lucky to meet great people in QC.

Today, I was driving up from New Richmond to Perce, when my steering began to shake, not vigorously but prominent enough that I could feel the wheel balance gone for a toss.

I was near the village of Chandler, and so I routed to the nearest mechanic shop and was directed to Point-S (Auto repair in Chandler | Les Pneus Clermont | Point S)

No one spoke English. Not a word. But we were able to communicate through hand signals. Those folks went out of the way to make us (me, my wife, a kid and a baby) comfortable, fixed the balancing issue in a jiffy and we were on our way within 45 mins of getting there. Really nice folks at Point-S.

And that has been my experience at most places in Quebec.

Just thought of sharing since we are on the topic of Quebecois.
 
kurtrules said:
I have been lucky to meet great people in QC.

Today, I was driving up from New Richmond to Perce, when my steering began to shake, not vigorously but prominent enough that I could feel the wheel balance gone for a toss.

I was near the village of Chandler, and so I routed to the nearest mechanic shop and was directed to Point-S (Auto repair in Chandler | Les Pneus Clermont | Point S)

No one spoke English. Not a word. But we were able to communicate through hand signals. Those folks went out of the way to make us (me, my wife, a kid and a baby) comfortable, fixed the balancing issue in a jiffy and we were on our way within 45 mins of getting there. Really nice folks at Point-S.

And that has been my experience at most places in Quebec.

Just thought of sharing since we are on the topic of Quebecois.
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But have they had signs in English?
 
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