There's usually a little empty space under the ledge of the platform, FYI. That's where I'd tuck into.
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There's usually a little empty space under the ledge of the platform, FYI. That's where I'd tuck into.
And the exposed 600V DC power shoes (train feeders, essentially unlimited amounts of DC current) will ride right in front of you. Also, there are tons of cables under that ledge, so it would be really hard to hide there, probably laying down may work.
The safest place is against the wall, on the other side (cat walk), just make sure not to touch the power rail when jumping on the cat walk. Many stations with center platform also now have refuge cages (painted yellow or brushed metal) against the wall, those cages are designed to protect a person when the train comes into the station. (Obviously, stations with side platforms have refuge cages in the middle).
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id run like hell in the opposite direction
AMEN!!! They were using that example to show how morally superior to the Chinese we are in North America... Then an example like this comes up and reminds us that we're all human
i wouldnt consider those standing around human
I would... That's a perfectly normal part of human nature.. Those who actually try to help their fellow man are outside the norms.
thats normal? geeze, where have you been brought up?
Location's irrelevant. What's relevant is my interest in history. Plenty of atrocities and injustices going on since day one. It's the pendejos who run the show. The only reason they allow for those capable of self-sacrifice to stick around is for those times when they can be of some use.
so cause sick people existed on this planet in the past its NORMAL to just watch another person die and not even make an effort to help?
The photographer's not fooling anybody. At the same time, I don't necessarily believe he just stood around to take photos while the guy was hanging there. I can believe that he did want to help him but that it wasn't his first or only priority. Perhaps warning the train driver with the flash was a secondary concern or sick justification for his actions. Anyway, this is all speculation. What I find fishy is this...
- NY Post photo is fairly clear and composed for a man who claimed to be running from a distance in a relatively low light environment. Camera features + editing may or may not explain this away. RAW photos would need to be analysed.
- Most people wave their arms and/or jump up and down when they're trying to get someone's attention quickly, especially when they're far away. They don't whip out a useless gadget, turn it on and use it.
- Typical flash recycle time for a SLR (time it takes to recharge) is around 5 seconds or so at full power. Now a flash can be used even when not charged to full power but it will be much dimmer. If he allowed it to fully recharge he might've been able to fire off 4 or 5 flashes max (not exactly a siren). At half power maybe, say, double that but half as bright. If he were hitting the shutter button at panic speed the light output would be negligible. More reason to believe his story is BS.
- He shifted blame and focus off of himself onto other bystanders. Doesn't prove anything at all but it's consistent with guilty behaviour IMO.
I don't think so. He got his money shot. If I had done something despicable like that (assuming it was intentional) I would've replayed what I had done in my mind by then and started thinking about damage control. Last thing I would do is snap photos over the corpse.
- NY Post photo is fairly clear and composed for a man who claimed to be running from a distance in a relatively low light environment. Camera features + editing may or may not explain this away. RAW photos would need to be analysed.
- Most people wave their arms and/or jump up and down when they're trying to get someone's attention quickly, especially when they're far away. They don't whip out a useless gadget, turn it on and use it.
- Typical flash recycle time for a SLR (time it takes to recharge) is around 5 seconds or so at full power. Now a flash can be used even when not charged to full power but it will be much dimmer. If he allowed it to fully recharge he might've been able to fire off 4 or 5 flashes max (not exactly a siren). At half power maybe, say, double that but half as bright. If he were hitting the shutter button at panic speed the light output would be negligible. More reason to believe his story is BS.
- He shifted blame and focus off of himself onto other bystanders. Doesn't prove anything at all but it's consistent with guilty behaviour IMO.
I don't think so. He got his money shot. If I had done something despicable like that (assuming it was intentional) I would've replayed what I had done in my mind by then and started thinking about damage control. Last thing I would do is snap photos over the corpse.
so cause sick people existed on this planet in the past its NORMAL to just watch another person die and not even make an effort to help?
They still exist and will exist in the future and those types gravitate to positions of power. In addition to that had it become known that someone who "tried to help" ended up ripping him off, I wouldn't be surprised on bit.
That is why it's up to those of us who don't stand for that behavior to encourage altruism whenever they see it and to show their appreciation for those who risked something to help a fellow human. They deserve a hell of a lot more media attention than the next drugged up teen star that just got knocked up by her boyfriend's dog.
Slightly pretentious "I'm a 3rd year Psych/Law major" post incoming:
It's very normal for average people to freeze when they're suddenly put into a situation outside their norm. The people on the platform likely are there at the same time, every day or weekday, and are used to the sights sounds and smells. Their lives are essentially a choreographed routine, and the second something out of the ordinary happens it's like jamming a lead pipe into bicycle forks. Dead stop and attempting to process the information at hand. Then once they realize what's just happened, the human instinct for self-preservation kicks in, then the bystander effect.
We've been taught to go to school, go to work, pay our taxes and carry on. We let people who have undesirable jobs do the real work. People have been taught to be sheep or just part of the herd for so long that it is in fact AGAINST our indoctrinated upbringing and nature to actually ACT decisively. Fortunately some people have been brought up differently and are willing to actually put life and limb on the line when the time comes (not a self plug).
People that do what the photographer did and what those pricks that we heard did, are in fact just bad people though. Their instinct for greed is obviously front and centre. Like I said, human without humanity. 22 seconds is a LONG time in that situation.
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so cause sick people existed on this planet in the past its NORMAL to just watch another person die and not even make an effort to help?
In the natural world, self-preservation is normal. Intentionally putting yourself in harm's way for no personal gain is not the norm. So people who do help in those situations are not the norm therefore few exist.
Reminds me of a video I saw on YouTube out of the US where a customer got stabbed during a robbery at a convenience store and instead of helping or even calling 911 the other customers just pulled out their phones and took pics/video or stepped over him to make their purchases.
And some people are still convinced that people in North America are for some reason different and better than people in other parts of the world lol
I can understand not everyone heroically putting themselves in danger a la Superman in order to save other people (I thinks Macs has a pretty good explanation). I get that. I think what gets me though, is that no one wants to assist a victim afterwards (when possible), and no one seems fazed by what's just happened. Just whip out their cell phone, as if they're being entertained by the whole thing, and then carry on with their day.
The bottom line is there is no empathy.
When Jane Creba was shot in the head on Yonge St. on Boxing Day, several or perhaps dozens of bystanders took cellphone photos while she laid on the sidewalk dying. Morbid fascination far outweighs empathy for a suffering victim. But that's the world we live in now.
And that's what makes me absolutely sick. People like that make me almost as angry as those who committed the actual crime.
