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Protection when camping on tour up north?

Redrock

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Hey guys, just a question for you touring guys that camp out in bum-faack no where...
Do you guys carry anything legal in terms of protection from the wilderness or you just chance it with Winnie the pooh and his friends.

A friend and I were sitting around discussing this as he's camped in northern Ontario a few times while out for week long rides. His answer "close your eyes and just hope you wake up".
There has got to be a more reasonable solution when camping no?
 
My mind was clearly in the gutter. I was thinking what is wrong with condoms, they provide decent protection when not camping up north, why can't they provide the same protection when camping?
 
My mind was clearly in the gutter. I was thinking what is wrong with condoms, they provide decent protection when not camping up north, why can't they provide the same protection when camping?

Bears can get rough....lol seriously tho, I read all sorts of posts about the type of gear and tool kits blah blah blah but never hear anything about bear spray, taser, pellet guns yano ish like that.
Am I the only one worried about stuff like this?

What if you encounter the "luca magnotta" of bears?
What can you doooo??

"theshnizzle" you just completed a journey through heavy bear territory,
What did you do about protection?
 
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"close your eyes and just hope you wake up".

I ****ing laughed more than I should have when I read this.

Make a lean-to off your bike maybe? I mean, you are in a cruiser right? You can pack a small pup tent in your saddle bags I would think, so what's the issue?
 
As far as a gun only a shotgun will do.We used to always bring one along while hunting as you only get on shot in a bear or moose charge and unless you kill it a rifle wont stop it.Have you ever tried to level a gun on while being charged,not an easy thing to do.
In reality its not Winnie but Bullwinkle who will most likely kick your ***,moose are by far more dangerous than bear and have stomped many to death while sleeping or walking threw the bush for no apparent reason other than fun.A can of $40 bear spray from the gun shop is by far the best protection from both and is designed to stop a charge.Also bring a bear bell or make lots of noise as its surprising them that really pisses them off.They can smell you a mile away but if your down wind..........Don't screw around with bear spray it will put you in the hospital right quick.
 
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You have a far better chance of being killed by a real Luca Magnotta than a bear.
 
A small short barreled shotgun is the way to go. If you are not licensed, I suggest you take a firearms license course, get your license and you are good to go. A non restricted firearm is perfectly legal to have in your trunk or motorcycle luggage, provided that you follow certain rules/laws.
 
I ****ing laughed more than I should have when I read this.

Make a lean-to off your bike maybe? I mean, you are in a cruiser right? You can pack a small pup tent in your saddle bags I would think, so what's the issue?

Nope, I'm on a Supersport. Hmm wonder where I can mount the shot-gun. anyone ever have a close encounter while touring/camping in the boonies or am I just being paranoid?
 
I would love to see the look on the cops face.I bring a tarp and a Bibi.I put the tarp or 8mm poly on the ground roll the bike over it then pull it over the bike and stake it in the ground,takes 2minutes but make sure the bike isn't too hot, in gear and theres a rock under the stand.Less to pack,no one can mess with your bike and it stays dry.If you get cold you can start it and warm it up enough to get warm from the bike for an hour after you shut it down.Super easy.
 
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I would sleep upright on my bike with it up on it's center stand, that way the second i hear anything i can just push forward and get the hell outta there!

But seriously yeah, that is what i have always wondered. And not just bears, what about hillbillies with bad teeth and hardons? hasn't anyone ever seen Deliverance?
 
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Bear spray is apparently the most effective against bears. I've read guns are about 40's % effective and bear spray is 90 (something) % effective. Unless you have a hip holster, you most likely will have to store a gun somewhere on the bike. Then again maybe those that have guns sleep with them under their pillows. But if you're in column A, and a bear is attacking, perhaps if you ask nicely it will pause while you fumble around for your key to the top box and then look for your weapon.

So say you finally get the gun out and the bear resumes its charge, and lets just say for arguments sake that you are able to get a shot off, I assume you know exactly where to aim and that under such duress, you actually manage to aim at the most effective spot to kill a charging bear. In all likelihood, you'll just piss off an already angry animal. Good luck with this btw!

So just for the record you think that if I camped out at your house without permission and you decided to get all pissy about it, you think it's ok if I shoot you? Seriosuly, you're in the bears back yard - give it a little respect.

In reality, you are most likely to be injured getting to the campsite on a motorcycle than you are to be attacked by a bear. Most campers that have been attacked, have either surprised the bear when hiking around coming from down wind withouth making any sound - startling a 500lb bear is never a good idea btw, or they have left food out without properly storing it. Bears want nothing to do with people.

Personally I bring bear spray when travelling to a known bear area and I hang a bear bag or use something like an Opsak to store my food in. The more lethal threat in my experience has been the local mosquito. Seriously, there is an infinite supply of them, they are not afraid of people and have been know to kill - just sayin!
 
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QUOTE So just for the record you think that if I camped out at your house without permission and you decided to get all pissy about it, you think it's ok if I shoot you? Seriosuly, you're in the bears back yard - give it a little respect. QUOTE

All respect in the world given but when any said animal gets fiesty and decides you shouldnt be there, their not gonna ask nicely. Hypothetically speaking, say I found a nice comfy place to setup my nightly accommodations and I'm passed out. What then?....do I hang friggin cow bells around the campsite hoping to alert myself and the animal or do I just assume fetile position and hope for the best?

Trust me, I want as little to do with them as they do me...minus a picture or two which I am more than happy to take a great distance. lol
 
I understand what you're saying but please understand bears want nothing to do with you. Take the right precautions and eliminate any reason/invitation for the bear. Take anything scented, deodorants, toothpaste and brush, all food, absolutely anything with any scent and store it away from your sleeping area, preferably hanging 15 feet off the ground in a bear bag. Cook and eat away from your sleeping area. Be smart and learn how to protect yourself before going out there.

If you're still worried after that perhaps camping is not for you.

I went hiking on the Bruce earlier this year for a few days. I hung up my food and toiletries every night. I will tell you that the sound of howling coyotes all around me (in the distance) was quite unnerving during the night.

We just got back from a 9 day 2up ride to the Cabot Trail (amazing btw) and we camped 5 out of 8 days. Stored all our food and toiletries in Opsaks (purchased at MEC where incidentally you can get bear spray), scent free ziplock bags essentially. No issues with critters of any kind.

We actually came across a black bear and her cub last year on the BRP. They wanted nothing to do with us and the other vehicle that stopped.
 
Lots of good tips here on bears. I'd still be scared $hitless to encounter one and that fear alone would prevent me from ever doing a solo trip like theshnizzle did. She has balls! In her thread she has a pic from her trip where there is one in a field and it looks like it's not even 20 yards away from her while she's standing off behind her bike, scary! i would have been on that bike and blazing off down the road the second i saw that thing even if it meant leaving my gear behind lol.

BTW. do the same rules of bear evading apply to Sasquatches?
 
Thanks for the info guys. Some good advice :)
Clearly I'm very inexperienced in this field but I'm
Sure with some good advice and practice I'll be fine.
 
Redrock

I wouldn't sweat too much about bears.

My friends and I enjoy camping "rough", by that I mean pull down a gravel road or snowmobile trail and look for a good place to set up tents.

We did this up the James Bay road amongst other trips.

Our only bear defence was drinking beer, although one guy was a little nervous and always screwed his aeresol air horn together as soon as we stopped. We never even bothered to hang the food up.

Although we saw bear scat in places we camped we never encountered a bear.
 
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Just my fists and a pocket knife. I've been close to bears several times and they generally leave you alone or run away if they're not protecting their cubs. Brown bears anyway. Light a fire and relax.
 

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