Premium gas vs. regular (CBC Marketplace)

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kickstartt said:
That's true I hve experienced the same by putting 87grade gas in turbo 2.0L engines and noticed significant change in engine response and turbo lag. Plus 87grade gas gave me less mileage than 91grade.
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That's because your turbo wasn't designed for the 87. It retarded timing to compensate for the 87,hence you feel less power, less performance.

Your engine will see an increase in performance using 91 only if the engine was designed for it ie high compression ratios.

You run a turbo with 87 for long & you might F it up
 
I82l8 said:
98 RON = 94 AKI which you can get at any old Sunoco now Petro Canada Station.
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Thanks for the info....

Just saw a comparison chart that showed PetroCan 94AKI is equal to 101.5RON... Will have to start filling up at PetroCan...
 
Now I'm wondering if Esso 93 is AKI. I just assumed it was RON. RON is used moreso in Europe... and AKI in Canada/USA. If Esso 93 is based on the AKI, then that's probably about right for the Duc.
 
When they kept saying regular cars, I was hoping they would touch on the performance cars bit and explain why premium fuel is an option.
 
caboose56 said:
Puregas.org to find ethanol free gas. Some stations offer ethanol free regular.
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http://pure-gas.org/index.jsp?stateprov=ON

Not a great list, just lists Shell 91

http://www.shell.ca/en/products-services/shell-for-drivers/fuels/shell-vpower/faq.html

11. Is Shell V-Power NiTRO+ premium gasoline safe for all vehicles?
  • Shell V-Power NiTRO+ premium gasoline in Canada does not contain ethanol.
The issue that I have is that they're using disclaimers "Where Available". Unless we actually test the fuel, can't really trust the labels.

http://www.arboristsite.com/community/threads/ethanol-test-kit-what-a-complete-ripoff.103716/

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jibbijib said:
When they kept saying regular cars, I was hoping they would touch on the performance cars bit and explain why premium fuel is an option.
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Yes... that would have been helpful...

Well, you know the old saying... Buyer Beware! Or... Buyer Educate Thyself before making the purchse. We have to do our homework first...
 
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Grandpa_Bambu said:
Thanks for the info....

Just saw a comparison chart that showed PetroCan 94AKI is equal to 101.5RON... Will have to start filling up at PetroCan...
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I have been wasting money using 94 Petro in my Shadow.

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Like others, I use premium in the bike due to the high compression and to avoid ethanol whenever possible. It always feels cheap to fill up compared to my other vehicle so I don't give it much though and automatically go for the premium. But now I may reconsider.

iFly55 said:
http://pure-gas.org/index.jsp?stateprov=ON

Not a great list, just lists Shell 91

http://www.shell.ca/en/products-services/shell-for-drivers/fuels/shell-vpower/faq.html

11. Is Shell V-Power NiTRO+ premium gasoline safe for all vehicles?
  • Shell V-Power NiTRO+ premium gasoline in Canada does not contain ethanol.
The issue that I have is that they're using disclaimers "Where Available". Unless we actually test the fuel, can't really trust the labels.

http://www.arboristsite.com/community/threads/ethanol-test-kit-what-a-complete-ripoff.103716/
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It looks like the fine print is only applicable to their "midgrade". I would interpret this to mean that the V-Power is indeed ethanol free.
 
When i got my bike... I was putting in 91 octane and getting around 245 kms/tank......After switching to 87 octane which the manual recommends I'm getting 210 kms/tank.

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Venom01 said:
Just follow your vehicles recommend grade folks. I'm sure it's been said already
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Unless you want ethanol free fuel and can't find 87 ethanol free fuel near you. I'm also sure it's been said already.
 
Grandpa_Bambu said:
Just saw a comparison chart that showed PetroCan 94AKI is equal to 101.5RON... Will have to start filling up at PetroCan...
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Nope Nope Nope.
Petrocan has ethanol. If you want your gas tank to swell, go for it.
Otherwise, Shell and Esso premiums are ethanol free.

Friends of mine have owned Multistradas as well -- it seems as though on several different European motorcycle manufacturers' forums they have discovered that the ethanol vapours cause the swelling more so than just the blended gasoline. If you fill up the tank just before you get home, the vapours don't appear to have the same swelling effect. This was tested by a friend of mine in Seattle. The first tank lasted almost a year before needing replacement due to swelling, never filling up before parking etc. The second tank lasted twice as long, after filling the tank before parking again etc.

My KTM RC8r is known to have tank swelling issues, just like the Ducati lineup. So I fill it whenever I get home from a ride, if no shell or esso premium is handy, I'll fill it with the mid grade I keep for my generator etc. (providing the last fill up was non Shell or Esso) Had the bike a year, no swelling issues to date.

Hope this helps.
 
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conundrum said:
AFAIK, Shell and Ultramar are the only ones who advertise 0% ethanol in their 91, when none of the others do. Remember this next time you fill up...especially with Sunoco 94....
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In Ontario, Costo, Shell, Ultramar, Canadian Tire and ESSO sell Ethanol free 91
 
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BigEvilDoer said:
Nope Nope Nope.
Petrocan has ethanol. If you want your gas tank to spwell, go for it. Otherwise, Shell and Esso premiums are ethanol free.
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Thanks for the heads-up... Much appreciated!
 
Splash said:
In Ontario, Costo, Shell, Ultramar, Canadian Tire and ESSO sell Ethanol free 91
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I need to see some proof of this. I've read that even Shell's 91 isn't always ethanol free.
 
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