daught
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I didn't apply the updates and I never downloaded a single appthat's why it still works every bit as good as the day I bought it.
Except it's full of unpatched vulnerabilities.
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Phone woes
- Thread starter bigpoppa
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Except it's full of unpatched vulnerabilities.
Trials
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lol if somebody wants to steal my address book and motorcycle photos, go for it.
Trials
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I have a tiny little flip phone too has a bunch of hours left on it from when my mom was still alive. I take good care of my things and they last for a long time. The commodore calculator I bought in 1970 for high school still works good too, I was so ****** when they told me I couldn't use it in tests because only 2 students in the class of 32 had them, simple calculators were about a hundred bucks to buy in those days.
has a bunch of hours left on it from when my mom was still alive. I take good care of my things and they last for a long time. The commodore calculator I bought in 1970 for high school still works good too, I was so ****** when they told me I couldn't use it in tests because only 2 students in the class of 32 had them, simple calculators were about a hundred bucks to buy in those days.
Sorry, seems you've made up your mind about migrating away from iPhone (I know a few people who have done so and about 70% come back as they realize the grass isn't necessarily greener on the other side), but I have to ask....exactly HOW old is the iPhone you're using that it will no longer run the Audible app, of all things?
I just checked and I see the iPhone 6S (a nearly 5 year old phone) is still supported, so I'm guessing you're using a 6 or older?
If one of the things you're looking for is longevity (assuming you're using a 6+ year old phone right now that's still doing what you need it to do with few exceptions) you're going to struggle to get that sort of longevity with any Android manufacturer.
Also remember that software support so far as security and OS updates are extremely fragmented in the Android world. Accordingly, if you're going to go Android, seriously consider something in the Google lineup so that you'll get updates directly from Google in a timely fashion. The Android world is littered with 1 year old phones which have reached end of life with software support potentially leaving your phone vulnerable to security issues for years and years. If you're a user who keeps your phone for 6-8 years if the hardware keeps working, you absolutely do not want to end up with a piece of hardware that becomes a security nightmare, whether you realize it....or not.
I just checked and I see the iPhone 6S (a nearly 5 year old phone) is still supported, so I'm guessing you're using a 6 or older?
If one of the things you're looking for is longevity (assuming you're using a 6+ year old phone right now that's still doing what you need it to do with few exceptions) you're going to struggle to get that sort of longevity with any Android manufacturer.
Also remember that software support so far as security and OS updates are extremely fragmented in the Android world. Accordingly, if you're going to go Android, seriously consider something in the Google lineup so that you'll get updates directly from Google in a timely fashion. The Android world is littered with 1 year old phones which have reached end of life with software support potentially leaving your phone vulnerable to security issues for years and years. If you're a user who keeps your phone for 6-8 years if the hardware keeps working, you absolutely do not want to end up with a piece of hardware that becomes a security nightmare, whether you realize it....or not.
bigpoppa
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Ended up getting the new Samsung S20, the Iphone 6 I got for free, and the plan was a commercial plan with a deal too good to pass up
The phone itself I got maybe 2 years ago? The audible is just one of the reasons I dont like the Iphones anymore
daught
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So best phone is one you use as a point and shoot camera and an agenda. I am glad you brought that up.
Trials
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and a clock and for maps and gps and compass and calculator and calendar and everything else that already comes on it for free.
and to hot spot for your computer.
sometimes even to listen to music on u-tube.
It's pretty quaint that this is all you think someone can potentially do with an old unpatched device full of security holes.
or maybe a malicious phone attack! oh my, they are going to hijack my ring tone
Lets list off the things that a compromised cellphone can do:
- Turning on the video camera without any outward indication and filming you and your surroundings and sending it off to some remote destination possibly to be used to extract money from you later if it happens to catch anything compromising.
- Turning on the microphone without any outward indication and recording everything around it and sending it off to some remote destination possibly to be used to extract money from you later if it happens to catch anything compromising.
- Mining bitcoin on your phone causing your battery to die prematurely and using up your mobile data allotment.
- Hijacking your SMS app to (often covertly) send texts endlessly to premium cellphone services costing you big$ that suddenly start appearing on your next cellphone bill.
- Hijacking your phone app and covertly calling 1-900 numbers setup by the hacker (with the profits going to them) to the tune of big$ for every call.
- Turning your phone into an ad server endlessly and randomly popping up ads in all your apps, often for stuff like porn. Nothing like sitting with the grandkids or wife and suddenly some hardcore porn pops up on the screen.
- Installing a keylogger and capturing and sending off your login and password data so a hacker can hijack your accounts and using them for spam, or use them to extract some more money out of you when they offer to sell control of the accounts back to you when you've discovered you can't get them back any other way.
- Redirecting your web queries to phishing sites to skim passwords. Banking data, anyone?
- Hijacking your mail client to use your phone to send spam.
I could keep going and going. Your phone is basically a tiny computer and hackers can and will use it just as easily as your home computer to do their deeds if they can find easy paths in, which if you're using a device that hasn't received software updates for 4, 5, 6+ years is going to be easy pickings out there. It was common for unpatched versions of Windows XP (For example) to become infected by malware within an hour of being connected to the internet if patches weren't installed promptly.
And before you think I'm joking, you might want to do some Googling.
Trials
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Wow sure am glad I have a non-compromised cell phone. Dear chicken little the only thing on my phone is the apple software that came with it and that does not do any of the things you listed because everything you listed requires me to download **** before it can happen, Google it.
I already told you I don't send passwords on it for anything. <- you know like no e-mail. no banking, no surfing for porn, no pizza delivery apps, Nothing that did not come on it and in the last 7 years of its life it never experienced any of those problems. I'm still feeling pretty secure.
I already told you I don't send passwords on it for anything. <- you know like no e-mail. no banking, no surfing for porn, no pizza delivery apps, Nothing that did not come on it and in the last 7 years of its life it never experienced any of those problems. I'm still feeling pretty secure.
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The fact you're using an Apple device means you'll have automatic update support for 5+ years on that device and are inherently more secure.
But someone who has an old device that has been orphaned by it's manufacturer (a serious problem with Android) and isn't receiving software updates anymore can be infected quite easily by things such as drive by malware.
And you're kidding yourself (or just don't understand tech particularly well) if you think you need to install anything to fall prey to these sorts of things when the vulnerabilities are discovered - it's done at the core OS level and can have absolutely nothing to do with apps at all. You should Google it. Or just click here instead.
But someone who has an old device that has been orphaned by it's manufacturer (a serious problem with Android) and isn't receiving software updates anymore can be infected quite easily by things such as drive by malware.
And you're kidding yourself (or just don't understand tech particularly well) if you think you need to install anything to fall prey to these sorts of things when the vulnerabilities are discovered - it's done at the core OS level and can have absolutely nothing to do with apps at all. You should Google it. Or just click here instead.
I aint falling for that.
Touche.
It's actually just a harmless link to a google search for "Android drive by Malware", but in the terms of this discussion I could certainly understand the apprehension about clicking some random links in a post by a stranger.
Touche.
It's actually just a harmless link to a google search for "Android drive by Malware", but in the terms of this discussion I could certainly understand the apprehension about clicking some random links in a post by a stranger.
I know, i hovered over it but was half expecting a link to 'gotcha! you've been hacked.'
Trials
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Like you would not have heard about it loud and long if the box stock 5S OS was introduced with a built in wide open back door competitors would pay big money for that to be true.
If you want to know what the security patches actually do, read the documentation and make your own decision if it applies to your usage. Even better wait until somebody else loads it and then bitches it slowed the performance of their data downloads.
Oh ya btw, there is one thing I never get because it's old software, wireless public alert warnings.
competitors would pay big money for that to be true.If you want to know what the security patches actually do, read the documentation and make your own decision if it applies to your usage. Even better wait until somebody else loads it and then bitches it slowed the performance of their data downloads.
Oh ya btw, there is one thing I never get because it's old software, wireless public alert warnings.
I replace phones and other electronic gizmos when they actually break to the point of becoming no longer functional.
Samsung S7. It has been fine. Don't even know how long I've had it, I'm guessing 4 years. It replaced a Blackberry Z10 that I got when those first came out (before it became apparent that they weren't going to catch on).
Samsung S7. It has been fine. Don't even know how long I've had it, I'm guessing 4 years. It replaced a Blackberry Z10 that I got when those first came out (before it became apparent that they weren't going to catch on).
Like you would not have heard about it loud and long if the box stock 5S OS was introduced with a built in wide open back door
Oh for fucks sake....
"If it was introduced with a built in wide open back door"....like, oh, I don't know, the kinda big and serious one that the iPhone 5 shipped with out of the box, you know...that one that allowed anyone to bypass your passcode and access your phone and all it's contents in about 5 seconds flat?
Is that big enough for you?
Or a bug that allows a thief to put your phone into airplane mode from the lockscreen ensuring you never find it because that kills all the Find My IPhone security systems?
Or getting trustjacked through a public charging plug somewhere?
Shall I continue?
There's actually been 146 major flaws found in iOS since the iPhone came out, several of them considered critical, requiring a rushed update to patch. As it sounds like you're using a vanilla 5S running iOS7, you're potentially vulnerable to about 7 years worth of these vulnerabilities now.
Yay for you? ?
The S7 was a well supported phone but it just received it's final ever software update a month or two back in order to fix a pretty serious bug that could have allowed someone to completely takeover the phone and all it's contents. It is now end of life and any future discovered vulnerabilities will leave it wide open.
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