Pet insurance-worth it? Recommendations?

jc100

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So I adopted two dogs, puppies. Looks like the little buggers are going to grow big though and I'm concerned about things like hip dysplasia etc. Looking into purchasing pet insurance for them but it's hard to find non-biased or planted reviews on companies.

Anyone got any experience with a particular company, any to stay away from etc?
 
What breed(s) of dogs?

I understand that a lot of stuff won't be covered for whatever reason. Pre-existing, etc... type denials.
I did have it on a cat that I used to have, but when it came to needing major surgeries, the insurance company won't cover any of it. I don't have insurance on any of my pets now, cancelled it on the pets that came from the shelters with insurance at first chance...
That said.... My vets bills total well over $25,000 over the past 12 years... probably closer to $30K... $15K US on one cat's surgery back when the our dollar was worth 60 cents US...
I spent a grand last week getting one of the little guys stitched up after a minor incident...
 
What breed(s) of dogs?

I understand that a lot of stuff won't be covered for whatever reason. Pre-existing, etc... type denials.
I did have it on a cat that I used to have, but when it came to needing major surgeries, the insurance company won't cover any of it. I don't have insurance on any of my pets now, cancelled it on the pets that came from the shelters with insurance at first chance...
That said.... My vets bills total well over $25,000 over the past 12 years... probably closer to $30K... $15K US on one cat's surgery back when the our dollar was worth 60 cents US...
I spent a grand last week getting one of the little guys stitched up after a minor incident...

Wow - $15g on one cat's surgery? You must like that cat.

re: insurance - I don't have it on my dog - I just set aside $150 / month into a high interest savings account as my form of insurance.
 
YES to dog insurance and get it soon.

Call your vet and ask which company is the best to deal with, he'll know
 
They are bouvier lab x with the emphasis on the bouvier. Here's what I've found from reading around. There's 5 or 6 different companies that have different levels of coverage ranging from premiums as low as 30 bucks up to around 90 per dog per month. The higher end gets me teeth cleaning, vaccinations, spay and neuter costs for puppies, preventative care etc. the lower end has higher deductibles and only covers accidents etc. what I've read about are wildly fluctuating premiums, copayments and deductibles once you start to claim with some companies. I'm just trying to decipher the real reviews from the planted ones. Some real world experience would be good. I know how high these bills can be, my last dog had cancer surgery before she died, 6 k and counting.
 
I ve always wondered about pet insurance myself ..

I checked into last year and it was like 40 + a month for full coverage.
 
I had pet insurance on my cat and when it needed dental surgery to remove an ulcer or something, it wouldn't cover it. My cat ended up dieing a few days later from the surgery (2 weeks ago) and I'm still stuck with the vet bill to pay. I'm not going to bother with insurance on any future pets.
 
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I had it for my dog go with trupanion, was about $22 a month including additional cover for hip issues. While I never used it I know what was covered and what is not. Given that these are puppies most likely they don't have any pre existing conditions unless it is congenital (which is not covered from what I understood) so take your pups to the vet and do a full checkup and if there are no issues get the insurance. You still have to pay for any diagnostics like x ray and lab work, but God forbid they ever need surgery you will pay only %20 I think and they will pay the rest with no maximum. Ospca also has insurance with everything covered but not sure how much it costs in comparison. I strongly recommend getting insurance so that you don't ever get to choose putting them to sleep or giving them away because you can't afford the $10k for surgery and recovery. I remember a guy I used to work with paid $3000 for 2 nights in the vet ER for some viral infections that hit the dogs before a certain age.
 
I had pet insurance on my cat and when it needed dental surgery to remove an ulcer or something, it wouldn't cover it. My cat ended up dieing a few days later from the surgery (2 weeks ago) and I'm still stuck with the vet bill to pay. I'm not going to bother with surgery on any future pets.

That sucks... sorry to hear about your cat.
 
I had pet insurance on my cat and when it needed dental surgery to remove an ulcer or something, it wouldn't cover it. My cat ended up dieing a few days later from the surgery (2 weeks ago) and I'm still stuck with the vet bill to pay. I'm not going to bother with insurance on any future pets.

Which company?
 
I had it for my dog go with trupanion, was about $22 a month including additional cover for hip issues. While I never used it I know what was covered and what is not. Given that these are puppies most likely they don't have any pre existing conditions unless it is congenital (which is not covered from what I understood) so take your pups to the vet and do a full checkup and if there are no issues get the insurance. You still have to pay for any diagnostics like x ray and lab work, but God forbid they ever need surgery you will pay only I think and they will pay the rest with no maximum. Ospca also has insurance with everything covered but not sure how much it costs in comparison. I strongly recommend getting insurance so that you don't ever get to choose putting them to sleep or giving them away because you can't afford the $10k for surgery and recovery. I remember a guy I used to work with paid $3000 for 2 nights in the vet ER for some viral infections that hit the dogs before a certain age.

Trupanion is highly rated on the review sites. They cover (up to) 90% of costs I think and the premiums are lower and there are no bells and whistles. You can add a hip dysplasia rider for $10 a month I think. For my dogs it comes out to $40 a month for coverage plus hip dysplasia rider. Deductible is reasonably high if I remember, might be $400. I will report back if I get insurance.

Another thing you can do is take your pet to the US for treatment. I read quotes where an owner had dental work done on their dog for $128 at a US vet office (Ogdensburg) compared to a $600 quote in Ottawa. Vaccinations were $15 in the US compared to over $100 here. Spay and neuter $100ish in the US vs $300ish here. The differences might be big enough to outweigh the disadvantages at times (travel times etc).
 
The more mutt the less chance of genetic/breed related stuff like hip dysplasia. But that comment is too late as you've already got the dogs. Personally, I just set aside one of my 6 mm or 30-30 shells for issues like that. Sure I love my dog, but it's just a dog. They make more just like it every day that need rescuing. Flame suit on.
 
The more mutt the less chance of genetic/breed related stuff like hip dysplasia. But that comment is too late as you've already got the dogs. Personally, I just set aside one of my 6 mm or 30-30 shells for issues like that. Sure I love my dog, but it's just a dog. They make more just like it every day that need rescuing. Flame suit on.

Nice out look
 
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Great Dane owner here...have always had 'em, have 2 currently (male is 7 the female is 4). I've had insurance since day 1 on all these dogs, and let me tell you, it pays off (one of my former Dane's had the dreaded bloat, which would have been rather tough without insurance given the surgery was upwards of $5-6k at the time...).

Talk to your vet, find out which company they recommend (thankfully, I haven't had a claim in years...which at the moment means I forgot who the heck I'm dolling out almost $80 a month to for 2 dogs...).
 
I know, Inferno. As I said, Flame Suit on. In defence however, there is some justification in taking in a rescue dog from a bad situation and letting it enjoy life for a few years, running on my dad's 75 acres etc. and if something goes wrong, I don't line the vet's pocket. The dog was better off IMO than if I hadn't taken it in the first place.
 
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Nice out look

Keep in mind that this guy also is willing, and/or wanting, to shoot someone else's housepet type dog because it was chasing a deer.... Knowing full well the dog(s) probably could come close to catching the deer and likely would have been on the losing end if they did...
 
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The more mutt the less chance of genetic/breed related stuff like hip dysplasia. But that comment is too late as you've already got the dogs. Personally, I just set aside one of my 6 mm or 30-30 shells for issues like that. Sure I love my dog, but it's just a dog. They make more just like it every day that need rescuing. Flame suit on.

I'd like to apply the same logic to dumb people.
 
I would say definitely yes, I have a Pomeranian,got ins as soon as I got him. Three years later my wife wants to save us 30 bucks a month and decides to cut off his insurance cuz up until that time never needed it. I kid u not within two weeks of cutting it off, stupid dog starts pissing blood, lol, not that it's his fault, but I swear it was like he waited for the crappiest moment to have issues. Long story short got him back on insurance but because of coverage gap was required to pay 1400 bucks out of pocket to have bladder stones removed. I'll never make that mistake twice, but really shop around I'll ask my wife the name of our company and post it when I get out of this docs office.
 
Here's a response I got from one company. As for pets, sure they are just animals, but to be honest, I prefer them to people most times, so I'll do whatever I have to to make sure they have a good life. That's my responsibility as an owner and I understand that it's probably going to cost me but that's the least I can do for the companionship and joy they give me. I've spent thousands over the years on my pets, all of which were adopted or rescued and I don't regret a single thing.

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As our company provides coverage for all accidents and all illnesses with limits that renew annually, we must employ some form of Claims Risk Management. Other insurance providers may adjust the deductible or premiums permanently as a result of claims history, while others will place limitations on coverage. By adjusting the co-insurance, we can manage the risk while maintaining comprehensive coverage at affordable rates. We found that this is the softest method of risk management, as the adjustment would only affect policy holders if claims are made, rather than on an monthly basis (as opposed to an increase in monthly premium, for example).

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