Permanent camera on bike

CruisnGrrl said:
wouldn't ride with out insurance, yet i don't expect to get hit every day.
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I have the XD1080 with me virtually everywhere I go now, whether on the bike or in the car. The only time I almost needed it was when I damned near T-boned some idiot who blew a stop sign and violated my right-of-way, and I didn't have the thing with me.
 
Rob MacLennan said:
I have the XD1080 with me virtually everywhere I go now, whether on the bike or in the car. The only time I almost needed it was when I damned near T-boned some idiot who blew a stop sign and violated my right-of-way, and I didn't have the thing with me.
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thats how it works.


i have my gps going all the time in track mode to save my butt
 
one thing to remember as well if you spent the money on a camera for you bike and the bike gets hit. 99% of the time the info stored on a SD card or hard drive will be destroyed or corrupted beyond use. Unless you have a way to transmit the video to another source.
 
Wild Bill said:
one thing to remember as well if you spent the money on a camera for you bike and the bike gets hit. 99% of the time the info stored on a SD card or hard drive will be destroyed or corrupted beyond use. Unless you have a way to transmit the video to another source.
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I'm not sure I buy that argument... A HDD perhaps as there are some moving parts, but for the SD card, its solid state. Most recording devices don't have massive buffer space and write video on the fly to the storage medium. I can see the file not being properly closed in terms of a sudden power loss but there are plenty of tools available online to recover files that are corrupted in this manner. Unless that SD card gets cracked in half, I'm willing to bet you can use your footage. If it is cracked in half or so damaged that its unuseable, I'm willing to bet the rider is in no condition to need the footage given he'll be embedded in a door or worse
 
I know of a case where a bike with forward and rear-mounted GoPro cameras went over a cliff (fortunately the rider was chucked off first, and didn't go over the edge - rider was fine). The rear-mounted one showed the crash. The front one had the file corrupted starting a few seconds before the crash - too bad, that would have been much more interesting footage. Bike hit a tree head-on on the way down ...

Also, there are plenty of videos on Youtube of folks who have had the recording going when a crash happened. Generally there's a lot less room for argument about who ran a red light or made an improper lane change when it's on video.
 
If let me say I hate seeing riders go down or getting hit.

I own a drift camera and it was mounted on my helmet when I got into the my accident. The footage was stored on the SD card no problem. Same camera I dropped in my living room and lost all the footage to a corrupt file. My friend who also owns a drift low sided his bike on gravel and his card became corrupt. He tried everything on the web and paid an outside company to try and restore it with no success. Other friends with the Go pro and Contour camera have had the same problems with them.

My whole point with this is that I agree if you were to get hit or hit someone it would be nice to have the footage to back you up, but lets face fact the chances of a camera mounted any where on your bike has a very slim chance of survival from a front, rear or side impact. So why spend the money on it if that is your only reason for recording. To much of a risk that the camera will catch it.
 
Wild Bill said:
one thing to remember as well if you spent the money on a camera for you bike and the bike gets hit. 99% of the time the info stored on a SD card or hard drive will be destroyed or corrupted beyond use. Unless you have a way to transmit the video to another source.
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There's a racer named Marcel Irnie, out in the Vancouver area, who has plenty of video of his get-offs on the track. He uses GoPro cameras. A lot of them. The odds of losing the video are significantly less than 99%. It's a chance to catch what happened through an impartial eye, which is something that no human observer is.

And there are other reasons to have video. Say you get pulled over for running a stop sign or red light, that you knew you fully stopped for. Suddenly you've got some pretty solid proof, that you didn't do what you were accused of. Maybe you're accused of one of the hundred and fifty different things, that can be construed as either 'racing' or 'stunting', under HTA 172. If you didn't do it, you've got proof. Then there are the times when it's nice to be able to provide someone else with that impartial witness.
 
Wild Bill said:
If let me say I hate seeing riders go down or getting hit.

I own a drift camera and it was mounted on my helmet when I got into the my accident. The footage was stored on the SD card no problem. Same camera I dropped in my living room and lost all the footage to a corrupt file. My friend who also owns a drift low sided his bike on gravel and his card became corrupt. He tried everything on the web and paid an outside company to try and restore it with no success. Other friends with the Go pro and Contour camera have had the same problems with them.
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I barrel rolled (360) my bike with a Drift attached to it and the video was fine. I've never had a problem with the Drift.


Rob MacLennan said:
There's a racer named Marcel Irnie, out in the Vancouver area, who has plenty of video of his get-offs on the track. He uses GoPro cameras. A lot of them. The odds of losing the video are significantly less than 99%. It's a chance to catch what happened through an impartial eye, which is something that no human observer is.
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Don't you mean "the odds of losing the video is significantly less the 1%" ? If it was 99% then there wouldn't be all those crash videos on YouTube.
 
Splash,
I think you'll find that the 99% is referring to Wild Bill's #24 post.

Wild Bill said:
one thing to remember as well if you spent the money on a camera for you bike and the bike gets hit. 99% of the time the info stored on a SD card or hard drive will be destroyed or corrupted beyond use. Unless you have a way to transmit the video to another source.
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Those saying these are unnecessary have clearly never been in an accident where the other driver accuses you causing it when it was obviously their fault or have not heard all the stories of insurance fraud going on in the GTA.

Why do you think YouTube is full of videos of crazy **** on the roads in places like Russia? Because scams are so common there almost everyone runs a camera to protect themselves. Or so I've heard anyway.

This thread will be greatly useful to me, as well, as I've been considering some of these options for my bike/car to protect myself from some of the retarded driving I see so many times a day, every day, in Toronto. Sometimes it feels like people are TRYING to cause accidents. I'm surprised there aren't even more in this city.
 
unL33T said:
Those saying these are unnecessary have clearly never been in an accident where the other driver accuses you causing it when it was obviously their fault or have not heard all the stories of insurance fraud going on in the GTA.

Why do you think YouTube is full of videos of crazy **** on the roads in places like Russia? Because scams are so common there almost everyone runs a camera to protect themselves. Or so I've heard anyway.

This thread will be greatly useful to me, as well, as I've been considering some of these options for my bike/car to protect myself from some of the retarded driving I see so many times a day, every day, in Toronto. Sometimes it feels like people are TRYING to cause accidents. I'm surprised there aren't even more in this city.
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The cameras that I run would certainly have been useful when I got broadsided in my truck by a taxi. When I protested the 50% fault finding by the insurance company they told me that I should have been completely at fault, for being broadsided by someone who was driving on the wrong side of the road and mounted the curb to hit me, but should consider myself fortunate that the Rules of Fault Determination specified that I could *only* be found 50% at fault. Video would have made it a much different story.
 
Rob MacLennan said:
The cameras that I run would certainly have been useful when I got broadsided in my truck by a taxi. When I protested the 50% fault finding by the insurance company they told me that I should have been completely at fault, for being broadsided by someone who was driving on the wrong side of the road and mounted the curb to hit me, but should consider myself fortunate that the Rules of Fault Determination specified that I could *only* be found 50% at fault. Video would have made it a much different story.
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I think I would do something I would regret very much if that bull happened to me. That is such a piss off.
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