And no its not. Tail light flashers is a clear ON OFF ON OFF ON OFF.
That one is more of a twinkle.
People in Whitby don't know how to drive!
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That one is more of a twinkle.
SweetOnion
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I guess you're right, that only applies to lights that are coloured RED. The speed of the light turning off and on is really not part of the debate, as that is what's happening. Either way it's lame.
Oh well. If you know that its the exact same modulator version and light from that manufacturer...then we'll see if i like or dislike it when i get it on the bike and go from there
SweetOnion
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Hold the phone...
LIGHTING EQUIPMENT PROHIBITED
Prohibited lamps38(1) Except as otherwise provided in this Act, the regulations or the Motor Vehicle Safety Act (Canada), or when authorized by permit under subsection 37(6) or (7), a motor vehicle on a highway shall not be equipped with(a) more than five lamps of over four candle power (of which not more than four are headlamps) on the front of, or visible from in front of, the vehicle; or(b) any search light or any lamp other than a stationary lamp; or(c) any lamp(i) that casts a light of a colour other than white, or(ii) that lights intermittently or in flashes; or(d) any lamp casting a light of over four mean spherical candle power unless it is so constructed, arranged, and adjusted, that no portion of the parallel beams of reflected light, when measured 25 metres or more ahead of the lamp, rises above 1.07 metres from the level surface on which the vehicle stands, as those heights are determined while the vehicle is fully loaded.Exactly, it's only 3 blocks! How is it possible to have that many bad drivers in 3 blocks. So shocked in Whitby, didn't know they were full of bad drivers.
This is the law they use for people flashing to warn of speed traps.
Is there any evidence flashing or twinkling lights make any real difference? Pod mods just slow done the refresh frequency of LEDS so that the flashing is evident.
Back to the OP: how fast were you going relative to traffic? People in cars scan at rates relative to speed or surrounding traffic, if you are going much faster, you are essentially invisible to them.
SweetOnion
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No no, that's technically legal still afaik ... this is for people that install this stupid thing: http://www.signaldynamics.com/backoffxp
pull the brake lever and the thing goes hog wild based upon your preferences.
That section does NOT apply to motorcycles. Go back to the HTA and look at the lighting requirements for motorcycles, there are different requirements for motor vehicles and motorcycles.
So you can now hang up the phone..lol
So you can now hang up the phone..lol
SweetOnion
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tail light flashers are legal.
SweetOnion
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Maybe if your tail lights are black
Intermittent red light restricted
(14) Subject to subsections (14.1) and (15), no person shall use a lamp, other than the vehicular hazard warning signal lamps commonly known as four way flashers, that produces intermittent flashes of red light. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 62 (14); 2007, c. 13, s. 17 (1).
Intermittent red light restricted
(14) Subject to subsections (14.1) and (15), no person shall use a lamp, other than the vehicular hazard warning signal lamps commonly known as four way flashers, that produces intermittent flashes of red light. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 62 (14); 2007, c. 13, s. 17 (1).
Again that section relates to motor vehicle NOT motorcycles as most most motorcycles do not come equipped with hazard warning lights.
keep trying.
Just for you sweet onion I will make your life easier here are ALL the relevant sections that pertain to MOTORCYCLE lamps under the current HTA, (part IV, Section 62 subsection 2 onward till the last subsection 7), as you will see it states nothing about flashing or pulsing or intermittent lamps being prohibited...
[h=3]Lamps required on motorcycles[/h] (2) Subject to subsection (3), when on a highway at any time every motorcycle shall carry two lighted lamps in a conspicuous position, one on the front of the vehicle which shall display a white light only, and one on the rear of the vehicle which shall display a red light only. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 62 (2).
[h=3]Idem[/h] (3) When on a highway at any time every motorcycle with a side car shall carry a lighted lamp in a conspicuous position on each side of the front of the vehicle which lamps shall display a white or amber light only and a lighted lamp on the rear of the vehicle which shall display a red light only. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 62 (3).
[h=3]Light requirement[/h] (4) Any lamp required under subsection (1), (2) or (3) shall, when lighted, be clearly visible at a distance of at least 150 metres from the front or rear, as the case may be. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 62 (4).
[h=3]Exception[/h] (5) Despite subsections (2) and (3), where a motorcycle that was manufactured prior to the 1st day of January, 1970 is operated on a highway, the lighted lamps required under subsections (2) and (3) shall be required only during the period from one-half hour before sunset to one-half hour after sunrise, or at any other time when, due to insufficient light or unfavourable atmospheric conditions, persons and vehicles on the highway are not clearly discernible at a distance of 150 metres or less. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 62 (5).
[h=3]Strength of lamps[/h] (6) Lamps on the front of a motor vehicle shall be so constructed, located, arranged and adjusted that when lighted as required by subsections (1), (2) and (3) they produce under normal atmospheric conditions and on a level road a driving light sufficient to render clearly discernible to the operator of the motor vehicle any person or vehicle on the highway within a distance of 110 metres ahead of the motor vehicle. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 62 (6).
[h=3]Attachment that affects lamps prohibited[/h] (7) No person shall drive upon a highway a motor vehicle if either or both of the lamps that are required on the front of the vehicle by subsections (1), (2) and (3),
(a) are coated or covered with a coloured material; or
(b) have been modified by the attachment to the lamps or the motor vehicle of any device that reduces the effective area of the lenses or the intensity of the beam of the lamps. 2002, c. 18, Sched. P, s. 19 (1).
[h=3]Lamps required on motorcycles[/h] (2) Subject to subsection (3), when on a highway at any time every motorcycle shall carry two lighted lamps in a conspicuous position, one on the front of the vehicle which shall display a white light only, and one on the rear of the vehicle which shall display a red light only. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 62 (2).
[h=3]Idem[/h] (3) When on a highway at any time every motorcycle with a side car shall carry a lighted lamp in a conspicuous position on each side of the front of the vehicle which lamps shall display a white or amber light only and a lighted lamp on the rear of the vehicle which shall display a red light only. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 62 (3).
[h=3]Light requirement[/h] (4) Any lamp required under subsection (1), (2) or (3) shall, when lighted, be clearly visible at a distance of at least 150 metres from the front or rear, as the case may be. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 62 (4).
[h=3]Exception[/h] (5) Despite subsections (2) and (3), where a motorcycle that was manufactured prior to the 1st day of January, 1970 is operated on a highway, the lighted lamps required under subsections (2) and (3) shall be required only during the period from one-half hour before sunset to one-half hour after sunrise, or at any other time when, due to insufficient light or unfavourable atmospheric conditions, persons and vehicles on the highway are not clearly discernible at a distance of 150 metres or less. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 62 (5).
[h=3]Strength of lamps[/h] (6) Lamps on the front of a motor vehicle shall be so constructed, located, arranged and adjusted that when lighted as required by subsections (1), (2) and (3) they produce under normal atmospheric conditions and on a level road a driving light sufficient to render clearly discernible to the operator of the motor vehicle any person or vehicle on the highway within a distance of 110 metres ahead of the motor vehicle. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 62 (6).
[h=3]Attachment that affects lamps prohibited[/h] (7) No person shall drive upon a highway a motor vehicle if either or both of the lamps that are required on the front of the vehicle by subsections (1), (2) and (3),
(a) are coated or covered with a coloured material; or
(b) have been modified by the attachment to the lamps or the motor vehicle of any device that reduces the effective area of the lenses or the intensity of the beam of the lamps. 2002, c. 18, Sched. P, s. 19 (1).
probably due to the fact that the downtown major intersection is closed due to fire and everyone is trying to get around that in a hurry.
SweetOnion
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For someone that seems so well informed, you don't care to include the information that pertains to ALL MOTOR VEHICLES.
Unless you are a Cop or a Lawyer, I don't see how you come off so well informed. I scroll down about 2 pages past your quote and find my quote.
See how mine says "Subject to 14.1" - well I'm not a lawyer, but I know I can scroll down to 14.1 and find out if it's saying Motorcycles are exempt.. and you know what it says? It says only Police cars can have one.
So, unless you would like to actually PROPERLY EDUCATE on the matter, and quote any and all relevant information, I would appreciate if you stop acting like you're so well informed, and I am not.
Once again, have a look at section 14... it says "NO PERSON" - I'm assuming that means no person driving or riding in/on a vehicle. Perhaps though, that section of the HTA applies only to pedestrians walking in lighted suits.
What area do you normally drive in?
LOL. Your son shows potential.
He is/was a cop
For someone that seems so well informed, you don't care to include the information that pertains to ALL MOTOR VEHICLES.
Unless you are a Cop or a Lawyer, I don't see how you come off so well informed. I scroll down about 2 pages past your quote and find my quote.
See how mine says "Subject to 14.1" - well I'm not a lawyer, but I know I can scroll down to 14.1 and find out if it's saying Motorcycles are exempt.. and you know what it says? It says only Police cars can have one.
So, unless you would like to actually PROPERLY EDUCATE on the matter, and quote any and all relevant information, I would appreciate if you stop acting like you're so well informed, and I am not.
Once again, have a look at section 14... it says "NO PERSON" - I'm assuming that means no person driving or riding in/on a vehicle. Perhaps though, that section of the HTA applies only to pedestrians walking in lighted suits.
