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Passed M1 - never Driven a BIKE before - which bike shud i get ?

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Never had a bike - got my M1 - I am 32 yrs old IT guy who wants to try out and see if riding is for me.. I am looking for some advise into which bike i should get ?
My preference is Suzuki 750 or the 650 - only because i dont want to move into another one next yr. I feel like getting used to the 750 and therefor keeping it for a long time.
Do you think its still too fast for me ?
The last thing i want is to DIE .. LOL
Please advise and this will def be worthwhile for me..


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Take a m2 exit course, than decide. :)
 
Nick_f said:
Take a m2 exit course, than decide. :)
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What he said.

Also, don't start too big, but don't get something you'll get bored with too quickly. You can always ride a fast bike slow, but it's downright scary trying to ride a slow bike fast! :p
 
If you have never done it before, go for the course. Think of it as a $400 dollar bike rental.

After the course you will know if riding is for you, and then you can buy a $5000 bike and $2000 insurance.
 
I got my M1 literally yesterday and my first bike (SV650) 3 days ago. I know I'm a noob but I'll give you my 2 cents.

If you have never ridden a bike before get a goddamn 250. There are so many things that can go wrong in a slip second on a bike when you don't know how the clutch, throttle, or brakes work and how their going to react to your inputs that in that split second you could be doing a wheelie into a tree. Forget power right now. you need to learn how to steer the bike first at slow speeds, counter-steering, how to stop and when not to stop, when not to reduce power etc.... There's a lot going on man.

Buy a 250 for a month or 2, learn, and then upgrade.

To put it this way: If you have no idea how to drive a car, would you learn on a car with a manual transmission, no abs, no traction control, and 600+ HP? No... Because that would be the equivalent of even something like an SV650 for a car (Power/Weight ratio is almost the same as a Ferrari Enzo).
 
Ninja 400r, Ninja 650r, SV650... more than fast enough. You should want to ride to enjoy riding

Foolish to think that you need to start on the fastest bike in the segment. Especially seeing that you've never ridden. I'm a 33 yr old stocks guy... My preference was a Ninja ZX6... Glad i didn't. Bike is built for a track. You'll take a long while before you'll be able to even come close to pushing this bike anywhere near it's limit. No matter what... your first bike will not be your last. Look for something for 2-3 years.
All bikes are fast, it's just how fast do they get up to that speed.
Listen, i've been riding for 1 month on a Ninja 400r. I too didn't want to start on a 250 bike and have to upgrade next year when i outgrew the bike quickly. I'm happy that i bought the 400 instead. Powerful enough to go fast, managable enough to learn on. Its not actually about the power or speed. It's about the power delivery. A 4 cylinder 600cc bike is crazy fast. A 2 cyclinder 650cc bike is also fast, but no where near as fast as the 600cc!
My very first ride on a street was about 2 hours have taking delivery of the bike and riding in a parking lot. I was coming south on Pape avenue doing about 30km/h and saying to myself, "damn... this is fast with everything else around like cars and people and buses... I still don't ride on the DVP because it's faster than i thought it would be to maintain high speed for any length. And the wind! WIND SUCKS! Scariest thing yet. Especially on the highway. I've ridden in rain and wind, and would much prefer the rain any day. Wind will blow you right across the lane.
After taking the course the following weekend of getting my bike i felt a lot more comfortable. You have to put in the time to get used to the bike. I personally think the two month restrictions for the M1 are absolutely essential to the learning experience. It's the right amount of time.
Insurance on my bike is $950yr, the 650r was 1380, and the ZX6 (same category as your GSXR) was 2450. (you pay this in 4 installments over the summer months, not 12.)
Do yourself a favour... relax.
Definitely take the course. You learn a lot, and who cares if your drop their bikes.
 
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mychasiw said:
Definitely take the course. You learn a lot, and who cares if your drop their bikes.
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+1.

Take the class. I went with RTI up at Brock University. They have classes at other locations as well. It's great fun and you learn a bunch. They start the first day as if you have never even seen a motorcycle before, so everyone is on the same page.

They let you try a varity of bikes, so it can help you decide what kind of bike you want.
 
Thanks folks .. am alrready booked for RTI in NortH york for the 28th of June ... I was thinking of either suzuki 650 or the 750 ..
after reading that - i am thinking maybe they are also too fast for me..
i am 5'10 and i weigh about 150 Pounds.
 
Decide after the course. You'll be on 250cc bikes there and there is lots of riding time after to get a bike and enjoy the rest of the season. If you felt really comfortable, maybe bump it up, but a 750 as a beginner bike? No way. Its not people don't trust you when you say you'll be responsible and follow the rules etc., but the higher end bikes just want to go, and if you make a mistake on one, you may not be around to learn from it. The throttle and brakes on a SS are super touchy, like a hair trigger compared to a 250. Some riding experience is highly recommended before you set out on one. Kawasaki and Honda both make a sporty 250, nice thing is bikes don't go down in value like cars. You could get one new and sell it used for not much less and there is tons of used ones at different prices all over.
 
I agree with the ladder... Decide after the course. I just had mine with RTI on Monday and Tuesday and you will have a few bikes to try. And I suggest you do try them all. I have never ridden before I took the course as well and let me tell you, even a little 125 can be scary for beginners! Don't ever take these machines for granted and for me i tune out the people that say you should start on a bigger bike. There are 2 sides to everything and to each their own, but for me I will be starting on a 250 and get used to using my gears and learn how these babies react. And if I get sick of it after a year? oh well, bikes barely loose any value so if I decide to sell, I wouldn't be losing much. I know every bike is different but you will understand once you start to move on them. You will have a ton of fun and will get the sense on whether it is for you or not!

Good Luck and ride safe.

Oh! and you dont drive a bike, you Ride one :)
 
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For your weight and size a 250 Ninja or similar is ideal. Lots of fun, not too expensive to buy or insure.
See if you can get an experienced rider to help you find one.
Keeps insurance costs down that vital first year and will not lose much value.

You need saddle time period
 
MacDoc said:
For your weight and size a 250 Ninja or similar is ideal. Lots of fun, not too expensive to buy or insure.
See if you can get an experienced rider to help you find one.
Keeps insurance costs down that vital first year and will not lose much value.

You need saddle time period
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+1 either get a 125 or 250, with your weight you wouldnt need much more, I ride a 125 on 401/409/427/QEW all the time, although it isnt stock which helps.

If you plan on doing a lot of 2 up riding get a 400 (400r) or ex/gs 500. Remember insurance is a combination of time spent riding/accidents & tickets/cc's of bike
 
How about a Suzuki GS500 (or GS500F for fairings). It's a fantastic standard bike. It's perfect for learners who want to stick with their bike for awhile. I know I'll be keeping mine for years. Great on handling and very forgiving. The power doesn't scare you but excites you. You'll have plenty for highway speeds =D

Happy and Safe Riding!
 
Razasyed1 said:
Thanks folks .. am alrready booked for RTI in NortH york for the 28th of June ... I was thinking of either suzuki 650 or the 750 ..
after reading that - i am thinking maybe they are also too fast for me..
i am 5'10 and i weigh about 150 Pounds.
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At that weight, a used Kawasaki 250 or Suzuki 500 (naked or fairing versions) would be plenty to keep you entertained for a couple of years. Used ones are plentiful, they are easy to work on if you want to learn to do your own wrenching, replacement parts (especially those prone to crash damage) are plentiful and comparatively cheap, and they are among the cheapest to insure.

When you're ready to move on, there is also a ready market of new riders who will buy those bikes from you for what you paid (or almost) what you paid as long as you keep the thing in reasonable shape.
 
MudHog said:
Also, don't start too big, but don't get something you'll get bored with too quickly. You can always ride a fast bike slow, but it's downright scary trying to ride a slow bike fast! :p
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Riding a slow bike fast is a lot more fun than riding a fast bike slow
 
Most people here are giving you bad advice. I bought a GSXR 600 as my first bike. It is a complete MISCONCEPTION that the throttle is so sensitive that if your not careful you'll wheelie right away. This must be from people that have never been on a 600 and it's their way of justifying wasting their time and money on a 250. It will not lift on you, as people are saying.

Don't waste your time with a 250 or anything like that. I recommend a 600, a 750 maybe a bit too much. If you go with a 600, that's plenty of power and fun and you won't get bored anytime soon. Nevermind all this upgrade business after 2 or 3 months. Complete waste of time.
 
gixxeranyone said:
most people here are giving you bad advice. I bought a gsxr 600 as my first bike. It is a complete misconception that the throttle is so sensitive that if your not careful you'll wheelie right away. This must be from people that have never been on a 600 and it's their way of justifying wasting their time and money on a 250. It will not lift on you, as people are saying.

Don't waste your time with a 250 or anything like that. I recommend a 600, a 750 maybe a bit too much. If you go with a 600, that's plenty of power and fun and you won't get bored anytime soon. Nevermind all this upgrade business after 2 or 3 months. Complete waste of time.
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Bad troll! Back in your cave.
 
when i first went looking for a bike i wanted a cruiser like a virago or vstar or vulcan.... I ended up buying a standard (kind of a universal seating position) because that is what was available for my price range. i then took a riding course and found that what i really wanted was a dual sport (something like a vstrom is what i really want). lucky i didn't get a cruiser... the nice thing about RTI courses are that you can pick any bike you want to try, i recommend switching up bikes often, you might find you like one bike over another...

as for starting too big, starter bikes are first bikes, not last bikes, once you're rocking a starter bike (which is also way nicer on insurance) you can sell it often for nearly what you paid for it. lots of guys buy a nice super sport and then scare themselves and never really learn to ride it well and just go for timmies runs (some do learn to ride it well but they're not as common and some put themselves in a position where they give up riding all together)... if you are looking for high cc and are willing to pay the insurance premium maybe look at something older, I started on an old 80's bike that had proven reliability and wasn't twitchy like super sports of today but it still had enough oomph to get me into trouble. a bike that is forgiving allows you to get up to the bikes speed and doesn't dump you for not paying attention... the super sports are race bikes and if you look at most racers they don't start on the gp race bikes, they start on smaller bikes, because even if you have natural talent you still need to hone that talent.
 
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