Parking commercial vehicle at residence in TO

[Relax]

Just before Sweaty Bob became mayor the previous council was pushing a TO bylaw that you could only park as many vehicles in your driveway as you had garage door width. Three car wide garage door, three cars--Two car wide garage door, two cars--One car garage door, one car. I think no garage was also one car.... Any extras had to be in the garage. I know we made it an election issue for our local councillor at the time.

I don't get the point of this. So any family with 2 kids and a motorcycle would need to move to a house with a 3-car garage?

 

[backmarkerducati]

I agree. Left over nanny by-law that really deserves a rewrite. Size limitation makes sense. Some form of eyesore by-law makes sense so you don't have a scrapyard next door but prohibiting a licensed small commercial vehicle seems excessively intrusive. They probably also need to include some clause for regularly driven or some knob will park a van that never moves to be used as signage in contravention of the sign by-law. License sticker (if it's still required) is cheap for a sign that is erected in a sign free area year round.

It really should be a size limitation. I get it, no dump trucks but a van or pickup should really be fine. This guy should make it about trades. The city has a bylaw that prevents trades people from parking their vehicles at their homes. War on small businesses, etc.

As long as they do not block the entrance to Home Depot with their trucks and scream "muh freedumbs", he has my support.

 

[GreyGhost]

I don't get the point of this. So any family with 2 kids and a motorcycle would need to move to a house with a 3-car garage?

Wander around woodbridge or brampton and see the fallout. One or two driveway spaces and four or five vehicles per house. They are all over the lawn (often hardscaped) and on both sides of the streets. Nowhere for anyone to go. Visiting my BIL in Woodbridge, the only spot that has ever been available is on the curb in a corner. All straight sections are full of cars that live there. Where sidewalks exist, you often have another vehicle perpendicular to the driveway between the sidewalk and road.

 

[backmarkerducati]

I don't get the point of this. So any family with 2 kids and a motorcycle would need to move to a house with a 3-car garage?

I can't say what crazy motivated it.... But if you had two cars and a bike you would have to live in a house with:

A) A two car garage and park the bike in the garage and the cars in the driveway.
B) A one car garage and park the bike and one car in the garage and the other car in the driveway.

It was extremely dumb, no doubt. best guess on the crazy busybodies not liking driveways full of cars. I guess in many cases it does get out of control.

 

[Relax]

Wander around woodbridge or brampton and see the fallout. One or two driveway spaces and four or five vehicles per house. They are all over the lawn (often hardscaped) and on both sides of the streets. Nowhere for anyone to go. Visiting my BIL in Woodbridge, the only spot that has ever been available is on the curb in a corner. All straight sections are full of cars that live there. Where sidewalks exist, you often have another vehicle perpendicular to the driveway between the sidewalk and road.

That's different from having all your cars parked on your actual driveway, following all setbacks according to the current bylaw.

But what you describe is actually one of the reasons I moved from a previous neighborhood - more than half of the houses had become multi-tenant, and cars were constantly parked along both sides of the street, even around the corners.

 

[Priller]

Some of these bylaws exist for good reasons.

Our next door neighbour (the foundation guy not loved by the lady across the street) parked what was essentially a job site office trailer in his driveway. This was a bigger issue because our driveway runs along his and down the sides of both our houses, with no separation. Having this huge trailer, while he was technically on his side of the property line, was a huge PITA, and it literally blocked the sun on that side of the house.

A friendly chat got it moved, but it was nice knowing I could fall back on bylaws to get it shifted if he was a jerk about it.

(His pop up camper hasn't shifted since we moved here, but it's further back behind a dividing fence, so it doesn't really bother me...)

 

[nobbie48]

Just before Sweaty Bob became mayor the previous council was pushing a TO bylaw that you could only park as many vehicles in your driveway as you had garage door width. Three car wide garage door, three cars--Two car wide garage door, two cars--One car garage door, one car. I think no garage was also one car.... Any extras had to be in the garage. I know we made it an election issue for our local councillor at the time.

That was slipped through in an omnibus bill. More chain jerking by the townies.

 

[nobbie48]

That's different from having all your cars parked on your actual driveway, following all setbacks according to the current bylaw.

But what you describe is actually one of the reasons I moved from a previous neighborhood - more than half of the houses had become multi-tenant, and cars were constantly parked along both sides of the street, even around the corners.

Parkdale / High Park area

Most of the single family houses, originally with no parking, have been converted into three and even four apartments. Dinner at my SIL's on Sunnyside meant dropping the family at the door and driving around for 20 minutes looking for a spot a 10 minute walk away. A few years ago they modified Roncesvales making it worse.

They also have decent TTC service.

 

[nobbie48]

It really should be a size limitation. I get it, no dump trucks but a van or pickup should really be fine. This guy should make it about trades. The city has a bylaw that prevents trades people from parking their vehicles at their homes. War on small businesses, etc.

As long as they do not block the entrance to Home Depot with their trucks and scream "muh freedumbs", he has my support.

I don't know if it is still on the books but it used to be if you wanted a trade license you had to have a commercial address and couldn't use the home. For mail purposes it wasn't all that hard to "Rent" from a friend.