Overly informed

Jampy00

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After a bit of research and thought I decided to switch motorcycles.
99% of the time I lay out what I'm looking for and see what ticks off the most boxes combined with my "gut feeling"
Then you have to typically sit around and wait for everything to get finalized. In my case it's been about 3 weeks.
So of that time was the dealer waiting for me, and some is me waiting for the dealer.

While I wait I research a number of things.

What after market accessories I think I want.
Watch reviews.
Watch video that pertain to the type of motorcycle I am getting.

I think I've watched way too many video's, none of which swayed my decision, but some brought up some points I was unaware of.
What a time we live in where it is now so easy to be overly informed on a topic/product of interest.

Of course you have to take many of these video's with a grain of salt as many seem only to ride the "hype train" or pander for view.
 
What a time we live in where it is now so easy to be overly informed on a topic/product of interest.

Of course you have to take many of these video's with a grain of salt as many seem only to ride the "hype train" or pander for view.

Stay the hell away from watches.
 
Should we have a poll to see who takes longer to actually get a bike, you or @mimico_polak ?
 
Stay the hell away from watches.
I've heard that numerous times. Luckily I have never had any interest in watches.
I wear a fitbit and that is too much "bling" for me... lol
 
My advice: read/watch reviews from people who ride like you or will use the motorcycle the same way you do.

I see so many riders shopping around ADV bikes watching videos from MX racers talking about the nuances of all the off-road features, when they themselves will never intend to take it off the pavement. They don't realize that a lot of those features that make it a good off-road bike actually hinder performance on-road.
 
3 weeks wait is pretty nutso....I'm reminded by @Wingboy frustrations.
Nah, I was in the middle of another financial transaction, so they actually were waiting for me.
 
I see so many riders shopping around ADV bikes watching videos from MX racers talking about the nuances of all the off-road features, when they themselves will never intend to take it off the pavement. They don't realize that a lot of those features that make it a good off-road bike actually hinder performance on-road.
Yes! that is exactly what I see. they complain about the suspension travel and ground clearance, when the actual bike will 90% never see terrain of this type by the average rider.
 
Buyer's remorse?
 
Yes! that is exactly what I see. they complain about the suspension travel and ground clearance, when the actual bike will 90% never see terrain of this type by the average rider.

Yep, then they spend $$$ after the fact fixing these selling "features".

Africa Twin forums are full of people asking about 19" front wheel conversions because they realize they don't need a 21" front because they never ride over logs or in deep sand, and realize that the larger front wheel is a hindrance in tight turns, slower steering, etc. on road.
ADVrider forums are full of people asking about lowering their too-tall ADV bikes because they don't need the suspension travel or clearance... again... on-road.

If you're into the ADV looks but you won't ride off-road, there are so many faux-ADV bikes to choose from, the MTS, the S1KXR, KTM SA (non-R) ,Versys, Tiger Sport, etc. All the on-road benefits of ADV bikes: the rider triangle, the carrying capacity, AND they are kitted out for *exactly* the way you ride. But less popular because not enough dirt-cred, I guess...
 
Meh you are probably trying to fulfilling a itch by watching reviews while waiting, you'll know as soon as you ride it.
 
Yep, then they spend $$$ after the fact fixing these selling "features".

Africa Twin forums are full of people asking about 19" front wheel conversions because they realize they don't need a 21" front because they never ride over logs or in deep sand, and realize that the larger front wheel is a hindrance in tight turns, slower steering, etc. on road.
ADVrider forums are full of people asking about lowering their too-tall ADV bikes because they don't need the suspension travel or clearance... again... on-road.

If you're into the ADV looks but you won't ride off-road, there are so many faux-ADV bikes to choose from, the MTS, the S1KXR, KTM SA (non-R) ,Versys, Tiger Sport, etc. All the on-road benefits of ADV bikes: the rider triangle, the carrying capacity, AND they are kitted out for *exactly* the way you ride. But less popular because not enough dirt-cred, I guess...
I already have my "ADV" 2022 HD RA1250S
As a "more mature" rider I know my limits and they are not bumping over logs and plowing through mud and water. My "Adventure" riding will be gravel/dirt roads for the foreseeable future. It's not the bikes capabilities I'm concerned with...
 
Meh you are probably trying to fulfilling a itch by watching reviews while waiting, you'll know as soon as you ride it.
For sure, I like to understand what I'm getting into. I am very eager to complete this switch and get riding!
 
Yep, then they spend $$$ after the fact fixing these selling "features".

Africa Twin forums are full of people asking about 19" front wheel conversions because they realize they don't need a 21" front because they never ride over logs or in deep sand, and realize that the larger front wheel is a hindrance in tight turns, slower steering, etc. on road.
ADVrider forums are full of people asking about lowering their too-tall ADV bikes because they don't need the suspension travel or clearance... again... on-road.

If you're into the ADV looks but you won't ride off-road, there are so many faux-ADV bikes to choose from, the MTS, the S1KXR, KTM SA (non-R) ,Versys, Tiger Sport, etc. All the on-road benefits of ADV bikes: the rider triangle, the carrying capacity, AND they are kitted out for *exactly* the way you ride. But less popular because not enough dirt-cred, I guess...
to be fair;

s1kxr was not as comfortable, could not carry as much, had far less aftermarket kit options and the engine is not nearly as tractable.

do i ever plan on throwing my AT down in the mud? Nope. Do i care? nope.

personally i think it handles far better than it has any right to, i have just as (if not more) fun throwing it into corners as i did the s1xr.

all that being said, your general points are valid. people who try to mod their bikes to that extent did not buy the right one in the first place.
 

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