VanillaGorilla
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Opinion on 2011 Z10R /w ABS
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toshison
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Hey man, you are absolutely right. Your logic is totally reasonable and I agree with you completely but I just dont think this guy is even listening. He wants a toy that is more powerful then everybody elses toys and thats going to put a smile on his face.. Thats the story I see here. I think he knows that this is more bike than he's ever going to need so I take it its just a "want" thing. If you want it, you want it.
If someone wants to rail bangkok ladyboys sans-condom, you can only tell them its unsafe so many times.
eventually, "HAVE FUN" has to be your defacto response.
In this case, the sexy fellas are probably going to offer less chance of disaster than the ZX10.
eventually, "HAVE FUN" has to be your defacto response.
In this case, the sexy fellas are probably going to offer less chance of disaster than the ZX10.
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Maintenance on a 1000 is no different than on a 600. Oil changes, valve clearance cheks and adjustment, regular stuff, is the same for just about any sport bike.
I've had two 10Rs and they were my 4th and 5th bikes respectively. I had an EX500, then two ZX7Rs then two ZX10Rs. To be honest, I'm glad i didn't get onto a 1000 any earlier than i did. My race bike had a stock motor in it, it didnt make any more horsepower than a street bike with a full exhaust and good fuel management system would make and even after 3 years of riding it on the track and racing it still scares me. A 1000 can be a handful, a big handful, but if you're a level headed person and respect/fear the bike and the ridiculous things it's capable of there is no reason why you couldn't go get one now and be perfectly comfortable on it. If you can't do that, if you're not afraid of the bike (which you damn well should be) then I'd say its only a matter of time before it gets away from you. This is where the unforgiving nature of a 1000 can hurt you, if/when you lose control of the situation the results will most likely be a lot worse on a 1000 than they would be on a 600 (or smaller). Which type of rider are you? Really only you can answer that. I personally know that i had a lot of stupid i had to work out of my system before a superbike was a good idea.
This is true.
I went from a 7R to a 10R and thought the difference was ridiculous. I went from a stock 10R to a 10R race bike and thought the difference was ridiculous. Then i got used to a geared, overpowered, underweight superbike and that became normal to me. Now my perception of "normal" is horribly skewed and when i get on a Daytona 675 i feel like it can barely get out of its own way.
Bareback or nothing.
tigster
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Thank you.
It's sad and scary at the same time how easy it is for someone (Especially in Canada) to get a Litrebike. It scares me to know some of you actually go out a buy these monster bikes on your second riding season.
Please re-evaluate what you're about to do before doing it.
If you're buying a 1000cc Superbike to impress your friends, get new friends.
dblEspresso
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espro
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You just won this thread.
I don't know; I'd give the OP a break. I'm into my 3rd season and I still shy away from the liter bikes. But I don't know how many times I've been in the showroom lusting after one. It's easy to have eyes bigger than your wallet (and skill).
P.S. I do agree, as stated by others, that you are more likely to learn more slowly on a bigger bike.
P.S. I do agree, as stated by others, that you are more likely to learn more slowly on a bigger bike.
Wow...so many interesting replies ...
To be honest: am I a pro? No! am I a professional racer? No! am I trying to show off? No!
That bike accident over the weekend, even though it as at a lower speed, it still has shaken me up , I looked at my pants, and the gloves that I was wearing, and I can see the damage, and let me tell you, it's scary ... falling for the first since 1 year ago doing the course and getting the M2. I seem crazy things at he course, it gets to you , the stuff that goes crazy ...
The reason I liked the ZX-10R was like I said, I haven't driven it, it feels light weight, and I can comfortability move around and relax at rest position in proper riding position
When comparing to the similar bikes: e.g. Suzuki GSX1000 or R1, I feel I am sitting weirdly, it just doesn't feel right.
I also sat on the Ninja 1000 , it's okay too.
I "think" I can handle the ZX10R and I always take on the caution side , it's a sweet bike, Hans did advise that I should go for the M2 advanced course, to have more training on driving, there is never enough learning.
Between 600 - 1000, I like the ZX10R ...
My mind is still open, I still have until mid of July to decide, perhaps I'll go browsing other models ...
To be honest: am I a pro? No! am I a professional racer? No! am I trying to show off? No!
That bike accident over the weekend, even though it as at a lower speed, it still has shaken me up , I looked at my pants, and the gloves that I was wearing, and I can see the damage, and let me tell you, it's scary ... falling for the first since 1 year ago doing the course and getting the M2. I seem crazy things at he course, it gets to you , the stuff that goes crazy ...
The reason I liked the ZX-10R was like I said, I haven't driven it, it feels light weight, and I can comfortability move around and relax at rest position in proper riding position
When comparing to the similar bikes: e.g. Suzuki GSX1000 or R1, I feel I am sitting weirdly, it just doesn't feel right.
I also sat on the Ninja 1000 , it's okay too.
I "think" I can handle the ZX10R and I always take on the caution side , it's a sweet bike, Hans did advise that I should go for the M2 advanced course, to have more training on driving, there is never enough learning.
Between 600 - 1000, I like the ZX10R ...
My mind is still open, I still have until mid of July to decide, perhaps I'll go browsing other models ...
In one year of riding you really can't gain the experience and natural reaction to deal with that bike. It will put you on your face or the moon before you know what happend. Even when your cautious and think "this is a good place", by the time you blink/shift you'll be doing 200, yes it's that easy. None of the new 1000 are heavy so don't let the weight make you think it's going to be some soft kitty you can play with because it will turn into a bengal tiger as soon as you go over 6000rpm. ABS and TC will not save you. Mabie try a track day and rent a 600 before you buy the bike. 600's don't have the grunt down low like a 1000 but that's what gets you in trouble.
Hurry up and bang the tranny, already,,,,,
the rest of us are waiting!
the rest of us are waiting!
hairy hands...they have HAIRY HANDS
VanillaGorilla
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LOL. hey newb with shaken confidence cuz you just crashed, I was at Kahuna couple weeks ago, they have a demo ZX10, why don't you take it for a spin before you make a decision. I scared the crap out of myself on a demo ride with the ZX10R last year, and I ride a 600SS. you just won't know until you experience it. Don't get me wrong, I had a stupid grin on my face the whole time I was riding it and afterwards my 600 felt soooo slow but the power on the 1000 superbikes is retarded
kiwi
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it'll look good at posing at timmies.
lol.. also when I did my M2 Exit here in Canada, I had to laugh at one of the guys who showed up on his 600cc+ bike. He couldnt control it in slow turns or corner. He *was* good at ripping in a straight line.. I guess anyone can twist a throttle.. the thing that made me laugh was he had the bike 5 years!!! Was only doing M2 Exit so as he had to, to keep the licence.
lol.. also when I did my M2 Exit here in Canada, I had to laugh at one of the guys who showed up on his 600cc+ bike. He couldnt control it in slow turns or corner. He *was* good at ripping in a straight line.. I guess anyone can twist a throttle.. the thing that made me laugh was he had the bike 5 years!!! Was only doing M2 Exit so as he had to, to keep the licence.
Nevermind that you have 1 year of riding experience. You have 5,600 km of riding experience.
To put that in perspective, when I was younger, I often did that in a month.
Unless your name is Jordan Szoke, you are a beginner rider. Full stop.
Liter sport bikes are not designed for beginner riders. Full stop. They are designed for very experienced riders, and increasingly, they are designed for racetrack use. The ABS and traction control on that particular bike may bail out *some* people from the results of their hamfisted actions, but certainly not all.
If you have no racetrack experience, you have no business being on that bike with so little experience under your belt.
If you putter around slowly, yeah you can "operate" the bike. But not really "ride" it.
It will do 160+ km/h in first gear and it will get there in about 4 seconds. Zero to driver's license suspension in a flash.
I own an earlier-generation ZX10R that I bought new. BUT. Prior to that, I put 7000 km on a Nighthawk 450, 118,000 km on a Ninja 750, 118,000 km on a ZX9R, and by the time I bought the ZX10R, I already had 12 years of roadracing under my belt. I don't ride the big bikes on the track - they're too much.
Nowadays, with all the street-racing crap and traffic and cops everywhere ... I ride a cbr125. Still have the ZX10R because it isn't worth selling - it has been converted to a drag bike.
To put that in perspective, when I was younger, I often did that in a month.
Unless your name is Jordan Szoke, you are a beginner rider. Full stop.
Liter sport bikes are not designed for beginner riders. Full stop. They are designed for very experienced riders, and increasingly, they are designed for racetrack use. The ABS and traction control on that particular bike may bail out *some* people from the results of their hamfisted actions, but certainly not all.
If you have no racetrack experience, you have no business being on that bike with so little experience under your belt.
If you putter around slowly, yeah you can "operate" the bike. But not really "ride" it.
It will do 160+ km/h in first gear and it will get there in about 4 seconds. Zero to driver's license suspension in a flash.
I own an earlier-generation ZX10R that I bought new. BUT. Prior to that, I put 7000 km on a Nighthawk 450, 118,000 km on a Ninja 750, 118,000 km on a ZX9R, and by the time I bought the ZX10R, I already had 12 years of roadracing under my belt. I don't ride the big bikes on the track - they're too much.
Nowadays, with all the street-racing crap and traffic and cops everywhere ... I ride a cbr125. Still have the ZX10R because it isn't worth selling - it has been converted to a drag bike.
