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Opinion: Do you use your rear brake when emergency braking?
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LOL you should stop entering this thread and penetrating it with your posts then.
I'm not going to be the only one stuck with herpes.. i'll penetrate where i want, when i want!
Rear brake control is just another skill for your riding toolbox, and its a precision tool that becomes very useful.
You don't HAVE to use it all the time.
If the job requires a file and a micrometer and you only have a hammer and a hack saw, you're gonna get things done poorly
For the "The rear brake will kill you, racer's don't use it" crowd.
Brembo makes a master cylinder specifically for racing purposes to activate the rear brake with precision.
it's even branded as "THE MOTOGP Thumb brake"
http://www.yoyodyneti.com/ProductInfo.aspx?productid=x98.57.01
You don't HAVE to use it all the time.
If the job requires a file and a micrometer and you only have a hammer and a hack saw, you're gonna get things done poorly
For the "The rear brake will kill you, racer's don't use it" crowd.
Brembo makes a master cylinder specifically for racing purposes to activate the rear brake with precision.
it's even branded as "THE MOTOGP Thumb brake"
http://www.yoyodyneti.com/ProductInfo.aspx?productid=x98.57.01
JFD
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Dear sir. I would kindly ask you to leave quietly.. and take your simple facts and logic with you.
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mindactivated
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Also matters on different surfaces as I have found out...
I now hate riding between street car tracks as the cement is very smooth and I once locked up the rear on a wicked skid while emergency braking. Some dude hit the cross walk lights and just started walking without looking. He finally looked last minute as I skidded past him! N00b mistake which I have since learned from, though sometimes you can't help it if someone depends on the cross walk lights and decides to enter the intersection blindly.
By default I use both brakes including this time, though I completely under-estimated the surface I was on, and I wasn't even going fast! 40km/h or so in warm sunshine... google map link
I now hate riding between street car tracks as the cement is very smooth and I once locked up the rear on a wicked skid while emergency braking. Some dude hit the cross walk lights and just started walking without looking. He finally looked last minute as I skidded past him! N00b mistake which I have since learned from, though sometimes you can't help it if someone depends on the cross walk lights and decides to enter the intersection blindly.
By default I use both brakes including this time, though I completely under-estimated the surface I was on, and I wasn't even going fast! 40km/h or so in warm sunshine... google map link
even when skidding your back brake is slowing you down more than not using it at all. as for an endo you don't do that immediately or you would go flying over the handle bars with the bike possibly following you. if you're endoing then you're not doing it right.
If you stop on the track, don't you end up at the back of the train?
I have a headache now, no more herpes for you.
Now back to our regularly scheduled regurgitation...
When I practice quick stops, I use both brakes at the same, while trying to keep my weight down and on the tail of the bike, so that I can utilize the back brake along with the front.
I've found that I stop significantly shorter using both brakes. That difference could put my bike outside of a car rather than inside.
I'll let someone else get into the physics of stoppies and whether or not they are the most efficient way to stop a bike.
Badabing, badaboom....... ^^^ Great advice here.
This is precisely what they teach at BMW riding schools around the world. This method is especially good on bikes with ABS.
Having said that...... I have a hard time using the rear brake on the track, but no problems using it on the street. Weird.
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Shows you what top level racers are willing to do, in order to avoid losing that "dangerous" rear brake :lol:
Anyone remember which international racer this was designed for? For some reason, I'm drawing a blank.
Im wondering if its that guy referred to in Nick Ientasch's book Sport Riding Techniques.
I remember he was talking about some racer who had a thumb activated rear brake lever. Cant remember his name... Mickey Doohan?
EDIT..... Yep, I think its him....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Doohan
"One notable trait of Doohan's post-crash riding style was the use of a thumb-operated rear brake developed during 1993. This was operated by a "nudge" bar similar to a personal water craft throttle, but mounted on the left handlebar. Some commentators have argued that this technique offered Doohan an additional advantage in rear brake control, though there was nothing to stop other riders from trying it (and some did, most notably Troy Corser and Miguel DuHamel, neither of whom had restricted use of their right foot)."
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Charlie-brm
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+1 or a Hyundai with 4 wheel disc brakes.
Sure, but then it's lost all ability to keep you pointed straight and it's stabilizing effects are lost. For the tiny contribution it makes to actually slowing you down, that's a net loss in my books.
what keeps you going straight is where you are looking and the inputs you're putting into steering the bike. the front wheel just follows the front, keep the front straight and looking straight and the rear wheel will stay straight.
Johnny5
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The exact opposite of that is true. If you use the FRONT brake all the weight is transferred to the front because the stopping point is at the front, so all the weight behind that is pushing forward still. Simple physics. That is the first thing you learn as a kid riding a bicycle, if you use your front brake only your weight will shift forward and you will go over the handle bars. Using the rear brake keeps the bike and rear end on the ground and is more stable than the front, not less. It's just that the front brake on a motorcycle has more stopping power (75%) so you should always use a combo of both brakes in an emergency stop.
Doohan was the first to use the thumb brake.
most of the guys that came from Flat track used the conventional rear at some level
Troy bayliss used the thumb brake in WSBK and MotoGP on the Ducati's(we all know how that worked out)
most of the guys that came from Flat track used the conventional rear at some level
Troy bayliss used the thumb brake in WSBK and MotoGP on the Ducati's(we all know how that worked out)
