Ontario Pension plan

Budgie farts.

Pack your bags.
 
Nothing but thievery. I fully expect to never see a dime of that money when i do retire, and if miraculously it does kick in, the inflation would have made it worthless.

This is nothing more than a way to take more money from working people NOW and put it in the hands of the provincial government. Everything lately that the liberal ***** has been proposing = us paying more.

We already have tons of savings plans for retirement available to us. Guess what, if people wanna save, they'll save. You forcing it on them doesnt help, well, it does help you....Besides, i bet you 10c on the dollar that investing that money privately would yield a better than return than what the government can offer. We're already forced to pay into Canadian Pension Plan...but that ***** cant get her hands on that money.

"Raise the fuel tax in ON so that Toronto has better transit..." yea cuz you know, extra $$ would NEVER be funneled out of that cash cow. What did you do with all the extra tax revenue when we switched to HST from GST? Oh thats right, it magically disappeared.

Hey hoebag, how about you stop blowing money away on ********....that'll put money in your coffers.
 
Alberta. No provincial sales tax, only 5% GST, 10% income tax rate for all income. I hear people are nicer???

ya and what you don't pay in sales tax the retailer screws you outta, remember they got oil money so the prices on items are outrages on most things.

i just spent the last 3mths there training.
 
I didnt see that in Calgary.

I was specifically looking at prices of things to see how it compares to Ontario and grocery stores, best buy etc all had about even prices. Its when you get into services that it becomes crazy. Need a roofer....get ready to bend over. Labour there costs, not goods.

Ofcourse if you're in Fort McMurray or other oil related industry towns i fully agree. Its a totally different subset of economics.



ya and what you don't pay in sales tax the retailer screws you outta, remember they got oil money so the prices on items are outrages on most things.

i just spent the last 3mths there training.
 
I didnt see that in Calgary.

I was specifically looking at prices of things to see how it compares to Ontario and grocery stores, best buy etc all had about even prices. Its when you get into services that it becomes crazy. Need a roofer....get ready to bend over. Labour there costs, not goods.

Ofcourse if you're in Fort McMurray or other oil related industry towns i fully agree. Its a totally different subset of economics.

yeah Calgary is white collar and edmonton is blue collar, still the retailer takes the extra or what you think you save from only paying one tax, most all the industry in edmonton services fort mac.
 
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I blew thru Alberta one August. It felt like late September. That's all I need to know about Alberta.
 
Yeah, and I understand they have zero corruption. Right, Ms. Redford?

dude every place has corruption. You are thinking of a utopian society. It doesn't exist.

You get less screwed there with lower taxes? Over here it's hard when they go up even a little.
 
I suggest some of you travel the world to see how good we have it in Ontario. And that includes the fecal hole to the south of us.
 
. What did you do with all the extra tax revenue when we switched to HST from GST? Oh thats right, it magically disappeared.
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Yep, you'd think there would be increase in services & roads. I have a hard time feeling sorry for politicians
 
I suggest some of you travel the world to see how good we have it in Ontario. And that includes the fecal hole to the south of us.

I travelled

USA
Denmark
Belgium
Switzerland
Germany

My wife travelled way more.

We dont have it good here at all maybe compared to the usa in medical cost only.

1. Most of Europe has fraction of our medical expenses. I pay less then $10 for medicine that cost $80
Here

2. Our free health care has turned into crap. Almost wish it was like USA atleast you pay you get served. 4-6 month wait for an MRI. Go to a cancer patient where every moment counts.

3. We are the 4th biggest city in NA and our public transit is 3rd world. Our highway structure is third world.

4 . It takes us 2 years to build an off ramp on the 401. We have 7 guys working one 9-5 shift. Other nations build 1 km long span bridges in less time with 2000 workers per shift 24/7

5. Our goverment monopolizes alcohol and tobacco. Where is free enterprise?

6. You make $1 you pay .40 as income tax, .13 as hst. You are left with .47 ...

You pay land tax, you pay this that?? Where does it go? I have 2 family members that work for goverment and they do anything at work... Where is all the money go?? Where is my hospitals? My highways? I used to have twice a week garbage collection now its once every two weeks? Blowing millions on ehealth, gas plants??

OUR POLITICIANS DISCOVERED IF YOU BRING THE THIRD WORLD HERE IN NUMBERS THAT YOU COLLECT TAXES AND RUN THE COUNTRY WITH LOW STANDARDS.

Thats whats going on and will
Only get worse.

Our corruption is worse then Greece but we are too divided culturally and too brain washed to stand up and discover the real truth
 
Thanks for the bubble wrap Winn.................Let me get this straight. We are taxed to death, we make crap for income and the Provincial Government thinks we won't have enough money when we retire so, they are going to take more of our money so we can have a wee pension to pay for things and pay more taxes? Yup! Sounds like politicians are gaming us some more.......Thanks for taking money on my behalf to give it back to me later. And likely make crappy investments, pay 10X more to get much less. Hope we die so we don't collect etc.

Seriously, how about we elect a government that will govern instead of trying to create more social programs and create more debt?
 
2. Our free health care has turned into crap. Almost wish it was like USA atleast you pay you get served. 4-6 month wait for an MRI. Go to a cancer patient where every moment counts.

I can't help but chuckle when I hear "free healthcare"

We need to re-work our collective social conditioning to rid ourselves of this error in the matrix. Our healthcare is not free.

http://www.fraserinstitute.org/uplo...price-of-public-healthcare-insurance-2012.pdf

2 adults living together, making $100k, are actually spending upwards of $10,000/year on healthcare. That's over $800 per month, every month, for the rest of your life- regardless of how healthy you are. Meanwhile the single guy living down the street, eating McDonalds and doing trackdays every weekend is only contributing a fraction of that. Guess who's paying to fix his broken leg when he crashes at Shannonville?

Not only this, but healthcare spending has been skyrocketing compared to costs of other necessities. This is a problem that needs addressing.
 
I can't help but chuckle when I hear "free healthcare"

We need to re-work our collective social conditioning to rid ourselves of this error in the matrix. Our healthcare is not free.

http://www.fraserinstitute.org/uplo...price-of-public-healthcare-insurance-2012.pdf

2 adults living together, making $100k, are actually spending upwards of $10,000/year on healthcare. That's over $800 per month, every month, for the rest of your life- regardless of how healthy you are. Meanwhile the single guy living down the street, eating McDonalds and doing trackdays every weekend is only contributing a fraction of that. Guess who's paying to fix his broken leg when he crashes at Shannonville?

Not only this, but healthcare spending has been skyrocketing compared to costs of other necessities. This is a problem that needs addressing.


Agreed 100%
 
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