Oil change after every winter???

[lraponi]

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Hey guys, my question is about whether or not to change my oil.

I bought my 1198s brand new from the d-ship last April.
I've only out 500km on it before I had to put it away for the winter.
Now I'm ready to put her on the road once more, and am wondering if I should change the oil.

I've already started her, and taken her on a few rides. It's riding perfectly fine. But I've been recommended by a friend to "always change the oil at the beginning of every riding season, regardless of milage."
The bike's not even fully broken in yet.

What are your thoughts?

 

[Wingboy]

No.

 

[Sushii]

With 500km... theres no need.

But if i had a Ducati, i'd change the oil before and after winterization regardless of mileage.

If your spending that much money on a bike, might aswell take good care of it.

 

[Wingboy]

With 500km... theres no need.

But if i had a Ducati, i'd change the oil before and after winterization regardless of mileage.

If your spending that much money on a bike, might aswell take good care of it.

Bull.Is it made of different metals than the other high performance bikes out there?

 

[canadianshark74]

Our winters are pretty short. So I change my oil whenever I get to 4500-5000 kms. Regardless when that happens.

But....... As Sushii said. If I had a Ducati 1198s...... I wouldn't hesitate to change the oil more frequently.

 

[mmmnaked]

Hey guys, my question is about whether or not to change my oil.

I bought my 1198s brand new from the d-ship last April.
I've only out 500km on it before I had to put it away for the winter.
Now I'm ready to put her on the road once more, and am wondering if I should change the oil.

I've already started her, and taken her on a few rides. It's riding perfectly fine. But I've been recommended by a friend to "always change the oil at the beginning of every riding season, regardless of milage."
The bike's not even fully broken in yet.

What are your thoughts?

LAST April? That means you've had the same oil in there for a year now.

$20,000 bike

$50 oil change



.... sad that you even have to ask this

 

[Ikan]

Hey guys, my question is about whether or not to change my oil.

I bought my 1198s brand new from the d-ship last April.
I've only out 500km on it before I had to put it away for the winter.
Now I'm ready to put her on the road once more, and am wondering if I should change the oil.

I've already started her, and taken her on a few rides. It's riding perfectly fine. But I've been recommended by a friend to "always change the oil at the beginning of every riding season, regardless of milage."
The bike's not even fully broken in yet.

What are your thoughts?

It's just a motorcycle!
Nothing that nuclear exotic inside it except for the marketing, sales....
I know. Almost blasphemy. :lmao:


500 km's = ride the dang thing and do the 1st change at 1,000 kms.
Then a longer mileage for the next one.

Since you have already ridden it it has already gotten up to full operating temperature a few times, I assume the rides were more than to the end of the block and back, so the moisture in it has been removed. If any appeared over the winter.

I always change the oil and filter at the very end of the riding season. Then start it and ride it in the spring.

 

[awyala]

Hey guys, my question is about whether or not to change my oil.

I bought my 1198s brand new from the d-ship last April.
I've only out 500km on it before I had to put it away for the winter.
Now I'm ready to put her on the road once more, and am wondering if I should change the oil.

I've already started her, and taken her on a few rides. It's riding perfectly fine. But I've been recommended by a friend to "always change the oil at the beginning of every riding season, regardless of milage."
The bike's not even fully broken in yet.

What are your thoughts?

Did I read that right? 500km in a year?!?!?!

Anyways, break in oil has bits of metal that have flaked off from the engine brake in period. Usually it is changed at the 1000km point, all the while swirling little bits of metal around....that's normal and it's fine. If you change your oil now, you will need to change again in the next 500km when the proper break in period is complete, again, to rid the oil of the metal bits and shavings of the now broken in engine.

I wouldn't be too bothered at this point, but make sure to have fresh oil and a new filter at the 1000km mark for sustained riding afterwards. You don't want all the metal particulates in there as a regular thing.

I haven't yet heard any rational as to why one needs to change their oil before and after a winter season, especially if the bike is stored in a temperature regulated garage. The oil wont undergo any further viscosity breakdown, nor will it do anything other than sit at the bottom of the oil pan all winter. I would suggest changing the oil before winterization, running it in a few times to let the new oil coat all the internals, then letting it sit in the pan all winter, fresh and ready for a spring thaw (without a redundant oil change).

Stop babying your bike and ride it! Unless you're saving it for some sort of upper end resale value! In which case, what was the point! Ride it and maintain it as per the manual.

 

[SunnY S]

But I've been recommended by a friend to "always change the oil at the beginning of every riding season, regardless of milage."
The bike's not even fully broken in yet.

What are your thoughts?

Oil companies love people like your friend.

 

[Wingboy]

Did I read that right? 500km in a year?!?!?!

Anyways, break in oil has bits of metal that have flaked off from the engine brake in period. Usually it is changed at the 1000km point, all the while swirling little bits of metal around....that's normal and it's fine.

Ok,you guys do know the designers of these things put oil filters on them...right? It's just an internal combustion engine.Not a top fuel motor or a Space Shuttle engine.

 

[Ikan]

Ok,you guys do know the designers of these things put oil filters on them...right? It's just an internal combustion engine.Not a top fuel motor or a Space Shuttle engine.

White gloves are required also. And a paper face mask so as to not have your moist breathe getting on the bike. Italian stuff rusts extra easily. (No disrespect to Italians).

I always do my 1st oil change on a bike or car at ~1,000 km's. then revert to normal change intervals.

 

[Charles Darwin]

I've seen a lot of people advocating changing the oil before and after the winter sleep. It's not a silly question.

However, it does not make sense to me. After the riding season, I can see why someone would want fresh oil sitting in there for a few months. At the beginning of the riding season, if you change it again - aren't you just wasting that fresh oil you just put in there?

Oil sitting in the bottle all winter vs. oil sitting in the bike all winter. In my house they're spending the same time in the same garage about 10 feet apart from each other.

 

[Wingboy]

I've seen a lot of people advocating changing the oil before and after the winter sleep. It's not a silly question.

However, it does not make sense to me. After the riding season, I can see why someone would want fresh oil sitting in there for a few months. At the beginning of the riding season, if you change it again - aren't you just wasting that fresh oil you just put in there?

Oil sitting in the bottle all winter vs. oil sitting in the bike all winter. In my house they're spending the same time in the same garage about 10 feet apart from each other.

Darwin has spoken!

 

[mmmnaked]

I've seen a lot of people advocating changing the oil before and after the winter sleep. It's not a silly question.

However, it does not make sense to me. After the riding season, I can see why someone would want fresh oil sitting in there for a few months. At the beginning of the riding season, if you change it again - aren't you just wasting that fresh oil you just put in there?

Oil sitting in the bottle all winter vs. oil sitting in the bike all winter. In my house they're spending the same time in the same garage about 10 feet apart from each other.

That wasn't the question. This guy bought a new bike last april, put 500km on the original oil, and then put the bike away for winter. That break-in oil has been in there for a year now, including sitting in the engine over the winter.

If thats not a candidate for an oil change, I dont know what is....

 

[TdotMurderer]

Let's get to the real question. Why buy a 20,000 dollar bike and not ride it? Give it to me. I'll get you 500km in 2 days and then you can get the regularly scheduled oil change. Better yet, ill take it, sell it and replace it with just the outer shell so you can continue to just look at it in your garage, and ill buy another bike that will actually be ridden.

 

[SunnY S]

That wasn't the question. This guy bought a new bike last april, put 500km on the original oil, and then put the bike away for winter. That break-in oil has been in there for a year now, including sitting in the engine over the winter.

If thats not a candidate for an oil change, I dont know what is....

Many times, if you check the build date on a new vehicle, its already been a few months before it gets to the sales floor, and likely been started and run at the factory, perhaps during transport during dealer trades, when put together at the dealer, test driven, pdi, etc. So if a dealer has a new bike or car for that matter, thats been demo'd a few times, yet sits on the sales floor for many months, or even a year, and then sells it.......


Do they change the oil on it before delivery?

 

[fastar1]

That wasn't the question.

The question was "what are your thoughts?" which followed a statement about changing the oil every spring regardless of km. He wasn't addressing your post either so what makes you the Grand Decider of what the question is?

Aside from that. you're wrong. The oil doesn't degrade a whole lot over a year even if the manufacturer pretends that it does. Do you also change your plugs and air filter every year regardless of mileage like they say? Now if we're talking brake fluid then sure, one year sitting around will noticeably affect it's performance. I'm sure you change your brake fluid every year, right? Or do you strictly obey the maintenance schedule there too?

 

[mmmnaked]

Many times, if you check the build date on a new vehicle, its already been a few months before it gets to the sales floor, and likely been started and run at the factory, perhaps during transport during dealer trades, when put together at the dealer, test driven, pdi, etc. So if a dealer has a new bike or car for that matter, thats been demo'd a few times, yet sits on the sales floor for many months, or even a year, and then sells it.......


Do they change the oil on it before delivery?

I was under the impression that the bike is shipped dry and the dealer does everything prior to delivery.

Perhaps the bike sits there in the show room with oil in it, but a) it didn't sit there long and b) it wasn't ridden.

500km of riding is enough of a workout for the oil that the degradation process has already started..especially in a new engine. I just don't see a reason NOT to change the oil. Its been a year for him, and it only costs $50. Don't be lazy.

 

[mmmnaked]

Aside from that. you're wrong. The oil doesn't degrade a whole lot over a year even if the manufacturer pretends that it does. Do you also change your plugs and air filter every year regardless of mileage like they say? Now if we're talking brake fluid then sure, one year sitting around will noticeably affect it's performance. I'm sure you change your brake fluid every year, right? Or do you strictly obey the maintenance schedule there too?

What in the world do plugs and air filters have in common with engine oil?

Its been well documented that used oil breaks down over time. Perhaps you know better than the scientists and SAE though.

Once again, $50

 

[fastar1]

What in the world do plugs and air filters have in common with engine oil?

The manufacturers recommend you replace them all after 1-2 years and 0 km. That doesn't mean it needs to be done.

Its been well documented that used oil breaks down over time. Perhaps you know better than the scientists and SAE though.

Everything breaks down over time, you should replace your whole bike every year.

Once again, $50

Or give me the $50 and I'll personally guarantee that no additional damage is done to his engine, up to the full replacement cost.

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