Jump on the 600... just be careful with the throttle.... its very sensitive.
Ninja 250 to GSX-R 600
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There is a big difference, you can not compare the power of the GSXR even in Mode C against a 250 - however, ultimately the power is on your wrist and your common sense and not on the bike.
Think of mode C like taking about 30 percent of the bikes power away, but 70% of a gsxr power is a hell of a lot more than the 250's power
Try one a 600 is really pretty tame and easy to ride. Its not going to kill you on its own just take some time and learn the bike.
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You don't speed? You're upgrading to the wrong bike! lol
Like others have already said the real difference is in your right hand.
You can cruise around all day long on a 600, 750, 1000cc even a hayabusa, its when you open them up the fun starts
In my opinion, put more km's on your 250. Less than 10k km's is nothing. Have you been on any group rides? How did you feel your riding skill was compared to the other individuals? The issue is most people compare personal riding skill from the past to the present.
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wandering_bandit
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I remember that ride, I was leading I think? But yeah---try to follow and you go down, hehe.
i rode the 250r for about 12,000km, then i switched to a gsxr 600 04
transition was massive. the first time you open up that throttle 1/2 way on a straight will make you poop yourself, but you get used to it afterwards
main thing you should make sure is that you are fully comfortable on your 250r
riding in a straight line comfortably does not count
im talkin about taking corners at a decent speed....if cars are piling up behind you on a highway on ramp, and you dont feel safe to go faster then your probably not comfortable with your turns.
for me the main thing to get used to when i switched to 600 was
1) seating position (250r was hell lot more comfortable for longer rides, but the 600 was more aggressive and makes me feel more one with the bike)
2) power!!
with almost 100hp difference the power difference was massive,
make sure your throttle hand is steady, espeically around turns
slow down before the turn, and slight acceleration through the turn, straighten up before rolling the throttle harder
much throttle during the turn = lowside
chopping your throttle off during a hard lean is not good either
transition was massive. the first time you open up that throttle 1/2 way on a straight will make you poop yourself, but you get used to it afterwards
main thing you should make sure is that you are fully comfortable on your 250r
riding in a straight line comfortably does not count
im talkin about taking corners at a decent speed....if cars are piling up behind you on a highway on ramp, and you dont feel safe to go faster then your probably not comfortable with your turns.
for me the main thing to get used to when i switched to 600 was
1) seating position (250r was hell lot more comfortable for longer rides, but the 600 was more aggressive and makes me feel more one with the bike)
2) power!!
with almost 100hp difference the power difference was massive,
make sure your throttle hand is steady, espeically around turns
slow down before the turn, and slight acceleration through the turn, straighten up before rolling the throttle harder
much throttle during the turn = lowside
chopping your throttle off during a hard lean is not good either
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yammyr6
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If thats even on your mind you're not ready I would say
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Red_Liner740
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sigh....its ALL about control of your right hand.....in the end, you can go too fast into a corner with a 250 just as easily as with a 600...the diff is that the 600 will get to that speed faster. This whole..."you need more km...." is such a dumb statement....what if he got on his 250 and did hundreds of km's on a slab highway with just stops for fuel and food....would 20K km of that experience be helpful? What about 5K of twisties, stop and go traffic, tons of exposure to everyday idiots, emergency maneuvers etc? Who has more experience? is a better rider?
In fact, of all the 600s to start off on the Supersport is probably the easiest...why? Cuz they are gutless at low RPM....keep the RPM below 5K and they are timid....I remember getting onto my friends 99 GSXR 600 after my VTR and it was boooooring....
In the end, ultimately the biggest factor is between your ears...if you have the mentality of respect and control you can get on any bike and ride it. If you hop off the 250 after a month and go "pfft, hold my beer, i GOT this!!" as you throw your leg over a SS, things are gonna get interesting REAL quick.
In fact, of all the 600s to start off on the Supersport is probably the easiest...why? Cuz they are gutless at low RPM....keep the RPM below 5K and they are timid....I remember getting onto my friends 99 GSXR 600 after my VTR and it was boooooring....
In the end, ultimately the biggest factor is between your ears...if you have the mentality of respect and control you can get on any bike and ride it. If you hop off the 250 after a month and go "pfft, hold my beer, i GOT this!!" as you throw your leg over a SS, things are gonna get interesting REAL quick.
nightflex
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I had a 250 for 2 months, I hated the lack of power and I could throw that thing in corners like a toy. Also the lack of power required a constant rpm jump to make U-Turns and slow maneuvers, personally a 250 was a pain in the ***. However, it was very very easy to ride. I upgraded to a zx6r and I found it to be a perfect bike for myself. Simple speaking, it has enough power to take you around turns without twisting youe wrist all the time in a rubber band effect. I found the turning radius to be very good as well. The height of the bike makes it fun to mount on it and go for a long drive. It feels like it's a lot more grounded as compared to a 250. I love the power the bike has, it gives me the rush when I need it for a split second around a crazy driver on the highway. Highways are fun! City is okay. Trust me when I say this, if you have a 5-6+ years of car driving experience then you are more than ready after putting 8-9k on the 250.
The reason being that you are fimiliar with the traffic, laws and street smart. Your only learning curve was the 250, upgrade and focus on the following things.
Five things:
1) Learn to stop using both brakes on the 250, you'll need it on a 600.
2) Learn to lean the shinitzle out on the 250, as the 600 will be a heavier bike so you need to have the confidence to lean it.
3) Master the clutch control, clutch is life. Regardless of the situation a proper clutch control can save your life.
4) Learn to keep your wrist in constant position as to hold one speed, this will teach you how to feather a 600 cc throttle.
5) Push the limits of a 250 (not yours) and you will know that it's time to upgrade.
The reason being that you are fimiliar with the traffic, laws and street smart. Your only learning curve was the 250, upgrade and focus on the following things.
Five things:
1) Learn to stop using both brakes on the 250, you'll need it on a 600.
2) Learn to lean the shinitzle out on the 250, as the 600 will be a heavier bike so you need to have the confidence to lean it.
3) Master the clutch control, clutch is life. Regardless of the situation a proper clutch control can save your life.
4) Learn to keep your wrist in constant position as to hold one speed, this will teach you how to feather a 600 cc throttle.
5) Push the limits of a 250 (not yours) and you will know that it's time to upgrade.
HuKo
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You should be just fine..be careful and don't worry about keeping up with people at first.. also if you go to group rides make sure to pay extra attention to your surroundings. I remember few years back on the forks of credit I had a low slide on the way back because of my inexperience, fairly new on the 600 (couple of months) and didn't realize the whole trail downhill was full of sand...and I got too close to the edge. Now get on the kijiji hunt 
油井緋色;2012601 said:
Then stick with the 250
Lmao My thoughts exactly. 600cc bikes just wanna go through RPM's and lean them hard and quick in turns. They are actually pretty boring when you just cruise.
Sounds like 250cc is the right choice for you at the moment as you won't even use 600cc to its 1/4 of potential.
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Sounds like OP is me - I too am planning to jump on a gixah sixah because of the drive-mode selector (I believe I made an incredibly similar thread on this not too long ago either).
This is my first season of riding and anyone that I've ridden with will tell me to hold off on the upgrade because of my riding style. I wring the little ****ers neck every chance I get and I'm told that that kind of attitude will not end well on a 600. However, that still wasn't the deciding factor of why I decided to wait to get at least 2 seasons under my belt before upgrading.
1. I really want to be able to scrape before upgrading (I know my skillset just isn't there yet and I want to do whatever I can to get better) so that my experience on a 600 can be "FUN" and not intimidating like it is for most new riders. The very fact that you and I even MENTIONED the drive-mode selector shows that we're not ready for it. Once you're ready, you'll want the full power and won't be intimidated. You're scared.
2. Money - I can swing it... but I realize that if I stick with the 250 another season, the insurance savings will likely pay for most of the bike the following winter.
3. I'm assuming you're a younger guy... and I can honestly say that there's so many more years to experience bikes. I spoiled myself by getting a bimmer as a first car.. I really have nowhere to go but consider an M3 as a next car.. that kinda sucks.. because I don't have much to look forward to in life. Getting a GSXR as a noob is short-satisfaction... What are you going to be looking forward towards after a year or so?
Bottom line is that, you're scared so save some money and get the bike a little bit later in your career so that you can look forward to that day more. Maybe invest in some good new rubber for the 250 (as I'm doing this weekend) - I've heard that makes an immense difference in the ride for cheap.
This is my first season of riding and anyone that I've ridden with will tell me to hold off on the upgrade because of my riding style. I wring the little ****ers neck every chance I get and I'm told that that kind of attitude will not end well on a 600. However, that still wasn't the deciding factor of why I decided to wait to get at least 2 seasons under my belt before upgrading.
1. I really want to be able to scrape before upgrading (I know my skillset just isn't there yet and I want to do whatever I can to get better) so that my experience on a 600 can be "FUN" and not intimidating like it is for most new riders. The very fact that you and I even MENTIONED the drive-mode selector shows that we're not ready for it. Once you're ready, you'll want the full power and won't be intimidated. You're scared.
2. Money - I can swing it... but I realize that if I stick with the 250 another season, the insurance savings will likely pay for most of the bike the following winter.
3. I'm assuming you're a younger guy... and I can honestly say that there's so many more years to experience bikes. I spoiled myself by getting a bimmer as a first car.. I really have nowhere to go but consider an M3 as a next car.. that kinda sucks.. because I don't have much to look forward to in life. Getting a GSXR as a noob is short-satisfaction... What are you going to be looking forward towards after a year or so?
Bottom line is that, you're scared so save some money and get the bike a little bit later in your career so that you can look forward to that day more. Maybe invest in some good new rubber for the 250 (as I'm doing this weekend) - I've heard that makes an immense difference in the ride for cheap.
Type17
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I say you're good to go, OP, just be careful cuz it's probably a huge jump. I really doubt you need to ride like Hayden to do regular street riding. Now that you have the basics down, with a healthy respect of the bike and the throttle I'm sure you'll be just fine considering there are people that hop on to them with 0 biking experience and do just fine.
