Ninja 1000 or Street Triple R (or Hypermotard?)

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I'm bored, time for some crap posting I think.

Looking at some bikes. I like the Ninja 1000 but there's hardly any on the used market, and I can't get a price I like from the few dealers that have them - however, they are quite plentiful south of the border, so importing one is an option. A 2012 Street Triple R came up at a price I like, and then there's Wingboy's Hypermotard 1100S.

Between the three, what would you get? Yes I can make my own decisions, but this board is full of opinions if nothing else and I'm interested to hear what you got.
 
TwistedKestrel said:
I'm bored, time for some crap posting I think.

Looking at some bikes. I like the Ninja 1000 but there's hardly any on the used market, and I can't get a price I like from the few dealers that have them - however, they are quite plentiful south of the border, so importing one is an option. A 2012 Street Triple R came up at a price I like, and then there's Wingboy's Hypermotard 1100S.

Between the three, what would you get? Yes I can make my own decisions, but this board is full of opinions if nothing else and I'm interested to hear what you got.
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No contest: http://hellforleathermagazine.com/2009/10/up-close-with-the-2010-kawasaki-z1000/

There's enough Euro-wieners and Anglophiles on GTAM. Bring on the slightly confused Japanese badassery.
 
Ridden both bikes. The Street Triple would make a nice second bike, but forget any long distance highway riding. Lots of wind. Ninja 1000 has amazing power and comfort, and great in the twisties. Quite a versatile bike too. Can be used as a commuter bike nicely with the European top box mount. (Special order item from Kawi) The std US/Canadian top box mount is a Givi item and is fugly!
 
espro said:
Z1000 is not the Ninja 1000.
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Very similar ... only things that separates them are: a full fairing, an analog dash, and a few horsepower. The Z1000s are even rarer though.
 
3 completely different flavors. Are you letting your choice determine what your want to do this season or will your riding habits help narrow it down.

1) Touring, I'd go the Duc. The only thing I really wouldn't want to do with the Hyper is stop and go and little A to B runs. I know you can but, just because you can, doesn't mean you will.

2) Commuting around town with weekend trips with the occassonal over night, Trumpet

3) Posing at Timmies and carving on/off ramps and searching for hidden curves not often travelled. Ninja.

Never ridden any of them. From my arm chair dream of what I'd go with, more than likely the Triumph or Duc. It would depend on what else is in the garage or if I had nothing else in the garage.
 
nakkers said:
3 completely different flavors. Are you letting your choice determine what your want to do this season or will your riding habits help narrow it down.

1) Touring, I'd go the Duc. The only thing I really wouldn't want to do with the Hyper is stop and go and little A to B runs. I know you can but, just because you can, doesn't mean you will.

2) Commuting around town with weekend trips with the occassonal over night, Trumpet

3) Posing at Timmies and carving on/off ramps and searching for hidden curves not often travelled. Ninja.

Never ridden any of them. From my arm chair dream of what I'd go with, more than likely the Triumph or Duc. It would depend on what else is in the garage or if I had nothing else in the garage.
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See, there already seems to be an agreement that the Hypermotard would be a better tourer than the Street Triple and I don't understand why. If anything I would assume it has a stiffer suspension, and neither has much in the way of wind protection.

Also, you may be thinking of the ZX-10R, which I am not interested in. The Ninja 1000 would probably make a better tourer than either, but in order to get one I would have to make a three day trip to the US. I really wish Kawi had picked a less confusing name for it.
 
TwistedKestrel said:
See, there already seems to be an agreement that the Hypermotard would be a better tourer than the Street Triple and I don't understand why. If anything I would assume it has a stiffer suspension, and neither has much in the way of wind protection.

Also, you may be thinking of the ZX-10R, which I am not interested in. The Ninja 1000 would probably make a better tourer than either, but in order to get one I would have to make a three day trip to the US. I really wish Kawi had picked a less confusing name for it.
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I actually love Kawi and I read all the favorable reviews of the Ninja 1000. It probably does tour just as well as the Hyper and it's probably even a little more exclusive than the Hyper and Triple in terms of coming across them at the local rider's gathering. I'm not sure if you could pit a comparo against each other for touring duty though? Never swinging a leg over any of them, my opinion doesn't count for much. If someone offered me the choice between the two, my initial instinct would be to grab the Hyper over the Ninja. Let's say to go from Toronto to the Cabot Trail.


And you'd look better in Highviz gear on the Hyper. All adventure like. I'm shallow like that.
 
espro said:
Z1000 is not the Ninja 1000.
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As mentioned, they are blood brothers. I liked the purple paint/snakeskin seat combo. It's awful style, but it was Kawasaki's own style at least.

The Streets and Speeds are undoubtedly excellent bikes, but shamelessly ugly. Ducatis always seem so conservative, even though people love then. Another L-twin with blobs of horsepower, carbon fibre and electronics? Meh. The Diavel should have been a 2000 cc single--that would have been a pretty cool bike.
 
If it were me, Ninja 1000 hands down. You just can't beat the Japanese for reliability, low cost of maintenance/ownership, and over all quality. With the Triumph or Ducati, they both have more personality, and maybe even style, but they also have a much smaller dealer network. Have a disagreement with your local Triumph or Ducati dealer and you might be having to drive quite a distance to find another dealer and get some work done or get a part. Also, if you plan to do any traveling and need a repair or part while on the road, again, Triumph and Ducati have a much smaller dealer network and you may be waiting a while for what you need.

For me, I love the silky smoothness of an I4 engine. I like the roar and personality of the Ducati L twin, but would rather have an I4 if I were keeping the bike a while or spending a lot of seat time on it. I have no experience with the triple to say yay or ney about it. Also, for touring, the ninja is the hands down winner in my book. It comes stock with an adjustable height wind screen and you can get the awesome Givi V35 side cases and a top box for it right from Kawi. Now that is what I call SPORT-touring!
 
What kind of rider you are and what kind of riding do you do in a season?
 
I have ridden the following speed triple, street fighter and also mv brutale. In terms of bikes I rank them in the following order. Mv brutale, speed triple and street fighter. Just my personal opinion. I am considering a naked back as a second bike to commute to work.
 
If you do decide on Wingboys Hyper, my advice is to switch to conventional mirrors. The OEM ones are a neat idea but IMO make the bike way to wide looking plus they're just cheap plastic. I've had my Hyper since '07 and love it. Super comfortable and you can get a full set of touring bags from Ducati.
 
TwistedKestrel said:
I'm bored, time for some crap posting I think.

Looking at some bikes. I like the Ninja 1000 but there's hardly any on the used market, and I can't get a price I like from the few dealers that have them - however, they are quite plentiful south of the border, so importing one is an option. A 2012 Street Triple R came up at a price I like, and then there's Wingboy's Hypermotard 1100S.

Between the three, what would you get? Yes I can make my own decisions, but this board is full of opinions if nothing else and I'm interested to hear what you got.
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Why not consider the FZ1? Personally, I like it better than the Ninja.

If I were in your shoes I'd go for Serialize's 2010 bike, (bought new last year).

http://youtu.be/tQJWw6PgZno
 
TwistedKestrel said:
See, there already seems to be an agreement that the Hypermotard would be a better tourer than the Street Triple and I don't understand why. If anything I would assume it has a stiffer suspension, and neither has much in the way of wind protection.
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Really? As per who? Sounds completely wrong to me, but what do I know.
 
mxs said:
What kind of rider you are and what kind of riding do you do in a season?
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I'm someone that uses their bike for everything if they can. In a good year, I would put on maybe 30,000km on a bike (but the last two years have been terrible for me). I shy away from supersports mostly due to ergonomics, and having a motor you can't use drives me crazy.

That said I still want something with good brakes & suspension ... I will not even consider something that does not at least have cartridge forks. It doesn't have to be perfect for touring, just something that won't beat me up too much (my only concern with the Speed Triple). Also I'm still 5 years old and want something kinda cool.

I guess if there was more than one used Ninja 1000 on the market, my mind would already be made up, but as I said what dealers are asking for 2012 models is just a hair more than I'm willing to spend (plus the colours are dumb).
 
I'd get the Ninja 1000.

I just got back from Pensacola, Florida this past Thursday with my brother's new 2005 Honda CBR1000RR Repsol Ltd. Ed. It was really surprisingly easy to purchase it and bring it across the border. Not much to do, other than drive a few thousand km's. :-)

Point is, if you can't find a Ninja 1000 here in Ontario, getting one from the USA is really no biggie.
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