newb landlord living with the tenants, what do i need to know?

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Even with a concrete lease, it will not necessarily protect you, tenant act still is strongly for the tenants.....you must jump through their hoops and it can still take over 6 months to legally evict a problem tenant, so chosing carefully is important, its much harder to live with tenants then those who just have a rental property. Again though this is more for house then roomers, different rules..


Cat13 said:
After seeing my mother go thru a tenant from hell. Work it in your lease that you have a way to kick them out with need be. My mom has it that she can kick them out when they've become a nusence and after the tenant taking her to arbutration 5 times(tenant loses), damaging the house, harrasing her with phone calls (live in the same house), she still doesnt have enough to warrant kicking her out according to the landlord and tenant board. Your lease is your safety net. Work it up and take it to a couple fellow landlords and see what they say about it.
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KawasakiGal said:
Even with a concrete lease, it will not necessarily protect you, tenant act still is strongly for the tenants.....you must jump through their hoops and it can still take over 6 months to legally evict a problem tenant, so chosing carefully is important, its much harder to live with tenants then those who just have a rental property. Again though this is more for house then roomers, different rules..
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100% agreed. Another thing... no matter how much you may need the money (if at all) DONT go against your gut!
 
KawasakiGal said:
If I recall, there is a different rights classification between tenants and boarders. In the case of a boarder (someone living with you), there is far more freedom to throw them out if things aren't working. You may want to check on the exact distinction.
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THis is true![/QUOTE]

interesting...can someone provide details for this?
 
CrazyKell said:
Boarders are not recognized by Landlords or the Ontario Tenant Protection Act. Boarders are subject to contract law between themselves and the Tenant.

from: http://www.has.uwo.ca/housing/glenmore/tenantsrights.htm#2
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okay im a bit confused now, the link describes the relationship between tenants and boarders, but not boarders and landlords.

I was under the impression there were differences regarding the rules between these two types of relationship...
 
TomC said:
okay im a bit confused now, the link describes the relationship between tenants and boarders, but not boarders and landlords.

I was under the impression there were differences regarding the rules between these two types of relationship...
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Sorry, I hit reply before finishing that post.

This was just a sample from a renting association. I couldn't find anything concrete that listed 'boarders' in the Ontario Tenants Act.

I think they are treated differently but I'm not entirely sure how.
 
As a person who rents a room, i beleive that rent is on a week to week basis.

In regards to illegal suites. I dont see how someone who is renting a entire house would not be able to alos pay heat/hydro. Anyone renting a house and icluding heat/hydro (as in its still their name) is insane. Thats how people end with 10K plus bills on grow houses. I didnt know that these even exist today-- as in renting a house all in.

Insurance will care when a person who is living in the basement ends up with injuries or death as a result of a fire/strutcal issue, they dont have provisions to cover illegal suites in their policies, but do have seperate polices for multi family units.

Either way, its the civil case that you would have to be worried about as well as possible criminal charges.

If you rent out a basement that is an illegal suite (not approved by city) and you actually issue a lease, the tribunal will have a field day with it.
 
TomC said:
THis is true!
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interesting...can someone provide details for this?[/QUOTE]

If you share a kitchen and/or bathroom with your tenant, then the Tenant Protection Act doesn't apply to you. The rules are what you want them to be.
 
Cat13 said:
100% agreed. Another thing... no matter how much you may need the money (if at all) DONT go against your gut!
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This is very very important advice. If you start thinking up excuses why such and such an applicant really is pretty normal, then they really aren't and you need to move on to the next one.
 
If you share a common kitchen and bathroom then they are boarders and not tenants. You can boot them out on a moments notice as the landlord tenant act doesn't apply.
 
DaveOke said:
If you share a common kitchen and bathroom then they are boarders and not tenants. You can boot them out on a moments notice as the landlord tenant act doesn't apply.
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just because landlord tenant act doesn't apply doesn't mean you can boot them out at a moments notice. It would be based on your contract.
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