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I'd have to agree with Caboose. Any sport touring tire will be fine and provide longevity. I had Michelin Pilot Roads on my bike and they were great. When I say they were "great" I mean that they didn't tend to square off and provided high km. In terms of people's preference for street tire what are the criteria? I ride pretty aggressively and never have had the tires move or slide on me. You don't need a super duper sticky tire for street riding. Track riding is something else... Overall there really are no "bad" tires.
 
I've used Michelin Power Pilots and Dunlop Q2's and prefer the Dunlop.

I'm interested in the Roadsmart 2's for the beginning of this season. I have a lot of kms to cover this spring.

I have a bias against Bridgestones due to some bad experiences with one pair. Not the tires' fault but now I just don't like 'em. :p Brand loyalties are hilarious, don't ya think?

From what I've seen from listening to other people's opinions on what is good and what is not it has more to do with brand loyalty and tread pattern/looks than much else.
 
Griffin said:
From what I've seen from listening to other people's opinions on what is good and what is not it has more to do with brand loyalty and tread pattern/looks than much else.
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Not to mention that they're going from a worn out set of Brand X tires to a new set of Brand Y tires. Ohhhh Brand Y tires are SOOOOOOO much better than Brand X. Brand X is garbage. Then a year later.... Ohhhh Brand Z tires are SOOOOOOO much better than Brand Y tires. Brand Y is garbage!
 
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Not to mention that they're going from a worn out set of Brand X tires to a new set of Brand Y tires. Ohhhh Brand Y tires are SOOOOOOO much better than Brand X. Brand X is garbage. Then a year later.... Ohhhh Brand Z tires are SOOOOOOO much better than Brand Y tires. Brand Y is garbage!
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LOL. Good point. A long time ago in a galaxy far away I used to run Dunlop K81's that had a ridiculously steep V profile. When new the bike would fall over into a corner. When worn it was a completely different feel. Then I'd replace them with new K81's and almost kill myself in the first corner.

I've only seen one good, comparative and fairly objective review of tires done by a rider. He'd been tracking his bike (an S1000RR) and compared the performance of 4-5 different high performance sport tires. Very insightful. Wear was not a consideration though :D.
 
Another Rossi ^ :lol:

Unless you mean running Corsas on an KLR650 :lol:
 
I run Corsas on my r1, Dunlops on my 10r, and Bridgestone on the KTM....it doesn't work any other way. I crash otherwise.
 
Not even close to what I said but sure I'll go with that. Different profiles on different bikes feel different, better? Pedrosa.
 
You didnt say profiles. You said tires. Rossi.

So for that matter, different profiles feel different even on the same bike, duh.
 
Different tires have differnt profiles so differnt tires feel differnt on different bikes which is what I said in my first post
 
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Hey the way I see it, the track "Pros" in here can say whatever they want to say about certain brands against others are not different while riding street, I can only speak from my experience and my experience tells me that it feels QUITE different when I am monkeyng around up north and I have a certain tire on compared to the other brand.

I don't need to argue, I don't need to try and make other people look like idiots, I only know what I experienced. The OP asked a question and some of us are trying to answer him as per our experience.

and mnnnnaked take a chill pill dude
 
I'm stricktly talking about street riding. I'm not a fan of the 2ct's on my 10r they may be great on another bike but not mine, I prefer my corsa 3's I had previously. OP, mabie ask some people with the same model bike what their experiences are with the tires your looking at, might help you decide.
 
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Modern sport touring tires can't be over ridden by 99.99% of riders on the street... especially in Ontario. Buying anything softer is a massive waste of money.
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+1 its not the comfort that tires give you its the comfort from rider confidence, any tire on street use should do fine. 4 me its the tread pattern to like.
 
ZX600 said:
Hey the way I see it, the track "Pros" in here can say whatever they want to say about certain brands against others are not different while riding street, I can only speak from my experience and my experience tells me that it feels QUITE different when I am monkeyng around up north and I have a certain tire on compared to the other brand.

I don't need to argue, I don't need to try and make other people look like idiots, I only know what I experienced. The OP asked a question and some of us are trying to answer him as per our experience.

and mnnnnaked take a chill pill dude
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Did you ride the same bike with a set of new tires, then immediately swapped to a different new tire of the same same size and went back out to test it? What was different about them?
 
ZX600 said:
Hey the way I see it, the track "Pros" in here can say whatever they want to say about certain brands against others are not different while riding street, I can only speak from my experience and my experience tells me that it feels QUITE different when I am monkeyng around up north and I have a certain tire on compared to the other brand.
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A difference in feedback or "feel" does not equate to a difference in performance.

Dunlops traditionally have a very stiff carcass, Michelins and Pirellis tend to be on the softer side. Going from a Dunlop to Pirelli will make you think the front tire is very very soft and lacks feedback but a month later once you're used to it that becomes normal. Going from a Pirelli to a Dunlop might make you think the front tire is on the verge of sliding all the time but a month later you're used to it and it becomes normal.

The tires may feel different but none are any better or worse than the other.

If someone tells me they don't like Dunlops because they don't like the feel, ok i'll buy that. If someone prefers the plush ride of a Pirelli, that's just fine and dandy. If someone tells me they don't like Dunlops/Pirellis/Michelins/etc because they suck, that's stupid.

Statements like Brand X/Y/Z is the best! are also stupid. They are all amazing and all the current sport tires provide more grip than anyone is capable of using on the street. Once upon a time when I still rode my 10R on the street I took it down to Deal's Gap shod with Pirelli Diablo Stradas. Single compound sport touring tires that are lightyears behind what is available now and even they were able to get me through the Dragon with my knee down everywhere. The current crop of sport touring tires are vastly superior to the Stradas. Unless doing a mix of street and track with the same tire, anyone who doesn't try them is doing themselves a large diservice. Bridgestone BT023s, Michelin Pilot Road 3s, Dunlop Roadsmarts or the Pirelli Angel ST (the Metzeler is the same tire) or even the Conti Road Attacks. All of them are great tires. Whichever one I could get the best deal on is the tire I'd be riding.

Other people's reccomendations won't really help anyone decide what kind of tire they actually prefer.

What kind of riding do they do?
What pressures do they run?
Does grip or mileage matter more?
Does the rider like more feedback or a plush ride?
What tread patterns look the coolest?
How much do the tires cost?

So many questions that make genuinely objective comparisons impossible and render threads like these utterly useless.
 
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caboose483 said:
Going from a Pirelli to a Dunlop might make you think the front tire is on the verge of sliding all the time but a month later you're used to it and it becomes normal.
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Had to change tires mid road trip once. I nearly soiled my knickers the first corner I hit after going from Supercorsas to Q2`s. By the time I`d finished my roadtrip I had forgotten I`d even changed tires mid trip.

And I`ll steal this link from another thread;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vx-8jD_4A20

[video=youtube;Vx-8jD_4A20]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vx-8jD_4A20[/video]

And this isn`t a pro Dunlop post, it`s just to illustrate that if Bostrom can take a street tire and make it work at the track then tire choice for the street is kinda academic, unless you`re a better rider than Ben Bostrom.
 
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mmmnaked said:
Did you ride the same bike with a set of new tires, then immediately swapped to a different new tire of the same same size and went back out to test it? What was different about them?
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No and don't see how that is relevant as there are different degrees of feeling the performance of a tire. I am not a test rider

I put in a new set or BT003's and went through the performance and feel curve from new to used until the end of its life, then I put a new set of Diablo’s and went through the same curve and my perception gave me an opinion based on experience, I also put in a set of BT016's scrubs on and once done I put in a set of Diablo scrubs.

I know the difference while riding in the rain, I know when I got on the HWY just right by my house the back tire would slip if I pushed it a bit and the other didn't, I know what one did at certain cornering speed compared to the other, that is a fact.

Also in the pass with enduro's and motocross I couldn't see any difference between one tire or the other, so I never really cared and always went with the cheap one, maybe lack of experience, whatever. but with a 153Hp bike, I do care what I put on, if you don't then that is your problem, no need to criticize me because I do..no?

I do Agree that this thread is useless on the context of people argueing on what tire is better, all the op is going to get is, each persons own interpretation on what is better for themsleves, however the OP asked "for advice" and he is aware that the advice he will get is on other people's experiences and not on a comprehensive detail review of what tire is better and why.

I kept saying "feel" and not "better", the one reference to performace i made was on the BT016's been crapy when wet, and if people don't agree with that is probably because they haven't ran those tires while raining but that is not what the tires are designed for, but maybe I just sucks *** generally riding in the rain..or in general, who knows

I can't believe I am involved in this thread *facepalm* to myself
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