New OPP cameras scan licence plates

[OMGSelenaGomez]

They'll cruise parking lots for plates that are tied to unpaid parking tickets, stolen vehicles, suspended licenses and/or perhaps arrest warrants.

Nothing too crazy.

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If you are a criminal, the worst place you can be, is in a car.

as long as they can't check for validity of insurance I'm good!

Parking tickets is a no-no. Police are not hunting you down over a civil issue. These camera's are mainly to track stolen cars.

Just keep in mind that the only plates these guys can read are Ontario plates.

 

[?spoc]

All police units? Or just specific police (like OPP, Peel, TPS, etc.)

All police that have access to ISS. Some outfits, that means all sworn officers, other places just certain officers. You can count on ALL traffic officers to have access. I am not certain, but willing to bet ALL OPP.

 

[rib]

If most of these cops are recording everything on video, shouldn't everyone be asking for this when they ask for disclosure when fighting a ticket?

And for this 360 radar, how can the cop be certain it was you he got, when he was not 'aiming' at you?

 

[Macs]

If most of these cops are recording everything on video, shouldn't everyone be asking for this when they ask for disclosure when fighting a ticket?

And for this 360 radar, how can the cop be certain it was you he got, when he was not 'aiming' at you?

It's actually 4-point radar, mah bad. And the ideas are that A) Radar tracks the fastest moving object. B) The cop is already moving, so he can say he was pacing you and use the radar as insurance. I don't think they'd try to nab someone going with the traffic flow, if you're speeding enough on the Gardiner to get a ticket you're going noticeably faster

 

[toysareforboys]

It's actually 4-point radar, mah bad. And the ideas are that A) Radar tracks the fastest moving object. B) The cop is already moving, so he can say he was pacing you and use the radar as insurance.

The radar works for both oncoming cars as well as cars in the same direction of travel as the officer. You are correct in that most officers have it set to "fastest" instead of "strongest". They can see with their own eyes which vehicle is travelling faster than others, so they know it's that car they have on the radar, and give that person the ticket.

I don't think they'd try to nab someone going with the traffic flow, if you're speeding enough on the Gardiner to get a ticket you're going noticeably faster

Oh they do. If you're travelling with the flow of traffic they ticket you (if you just happened to be the unlucky one that got pulled over), and even if he didn't radar YOU, he can say you were travelling the same speed as the "car in front" which he got on radar. It's such a crock of crap.

-Jamie M.

 

[nikiter]

My buddy recently asked a cop if police could check that your vehicle has insurance on it. He said negative. Could be BS either way though.
I'll try to ask some cop. Really curious what they can check now a days.

 

[SXE MX6]

http://www.thestar.com/news/investigations/article/822961--uninsured-drivers-get-free-ride



This is from back in 2010, and still looks like they don't have anything to verify........
(15 Civil Servants have been working on it since 2004)
Thats 8 years............. And you know that there getting $100,000 pay checks too. So thats only what......... at least $12,000,000 paid out to people for NOTHING???????

I'd love to be able to get a group of people together and go through all the government waste, and fire 90% of them! The amount that is wasted on "studys", etc, and the bill is paid by TAX PAYERS, is stupid!




They won't give an estimate anymore, but they will say this: there are nearly 14 million roadworthy private passenger vehicles (cars, pickup trucks, vans, SUVs, dune buggies and motor homes) registered in the ministry's database. Roughly 6.5 million of them have insurance. The rest do not and it is unclear how many of the cars without insurance are on the road.


REALLY!!!!!!!??????

WTF!!!

So over half the drivers in ontario, don't have insurance? NICE!!!
If anyone ever, and I mean ever injured me, or my family, and didn't have insurance, they had better have some money put aside for a 6 foot hole in the ground. Just sayin'.

 

[CruisnGrrl]

Funny how other provinces can have real time insurance status

 

[Pegassus]

They'll cruise parking lots for plates that are tied to unpaid parking tickets, stolen vehicles, suspended licenses and/or perhaps arrest warrants.

Nothing too crazy.

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Yeah and then comes searches for deadbeat dads or people in fake "blacklists" of whatever, how about people that owes money to Rogers and Rogers gets into an agreement with cops to bust people just like the music industry did in the USA? Whoever said "So what?" or "If you have nothing to hide" to these intrusive laws/technologies are doofus that don't know what's coming to them.

 

[caboose56]

Yeah and then comes searches for deadbeat dads or people in fake "blacklists" of whatever, how about people that owes money to Rogers and Rogers gets into an agreement with cops to bust people just like the music industry did in the USA? Whoever said "So what?" or "If you have nothing to hide" to these intrusive laws/technologies are doofus that don't know what's coming to them.

Cops and Rogers??? Lol.

Put down the crack pipe, Peggy.

 

[Rob MacLennan]

Cops and Rogers??? Lol.

Put down the crack pipe, Peggy.

Well he's way off base with that one, but not totally whacky where the principle is concerned. There have been cases in which private lists have been sold by unscrupulous employees to make a buck, on the side. There have also been cases in which errors have resulted in private information being leaked by government agencies. If the information isn't there, then it can't be leaked.

These cases result in criminal charges, when the source can be tracked.

 

[Pegassus]

Cops and Rogers??? Lol.

Put down the crack pipe, Peggy.

That's what people said in the 1950's with the book "1984", now we have more instrusive laws than that, funny how you ridicule me for the Rogers remark but conveniently stayed quiet on the subject of cops using these plate scanners to bust deadbeat dads, what's the matter are you scared now? The 407 is a private corporation and the cops enforce their deadbeats, the same thing with the RIAA industry in America, cops and the courts enforce their made-up laws, laws made up by a coproration and being enforced by a public police force.

Call me when these police stations start spending money on having undercover officers in basements catching motorcycle thieves.

 

[caboose56]

That's what people said in the 1950's with the book "1984", now we have more instrusive laws than that, funny how you ridicule me for the Rogers remark but conveniently stayed quiet on the subject of cops using these plate scanners to bust deadbeat dads, what's the matter are you scared now? The 407 is a private corporation and the cops enforce their deadbeats, the same thing with the RIAA industry in America, cops and the courts enforce their made-up laws, laws made up by a coproration and being enforced by a public police force.

Call me when these police stations start spending money on having undercover officers in basements catching motorcycle thieves.

The 407 pays the OPP to patrol their highway.

The OPP does not pursue dead beat users. Collection agencies do that.

Last time I checked we don't have Thought Police.

 

[toysareforboys]

Last time I checked we don't have Thought Police.

Did you see the new Xbox kinect movie rental service? You pay per "viewer". I wasn't sure what it meant until I read the fine print. It photographs and identifies the people sitting in front of the TV! Charges you based on how many people watch the movie with you! It even guesses their age and sex and sends all that information back to Microsoft!

Next it'll read your thoughts. Guaranteed.

-Jamie M.

 

[DaveTheCanuck]

Did you see the new Xbox kinect movie rental service? You pay per "viewer". I wasn't sure what it meant until I read the fine print. It photographs and identifies the people sitting in front of the TV! Charges you based on how many people watch the movie with you! It even guesses their age and sex and sends all that information back to Microsoft!

Next it'll read your thoughts. Guaranteed.

-Jamie M.

That's not a real service. It's a patent on a concept, and it will never fly as long as other services don't require Kinect (i.e. One of those ideas companies patent just for the hell of it but never actually go anywhere).

People complain about vehicle theft and then bash a system that can greatly increase the recovery of stolen vehicles. I don't get it.

 

[PLau]

http://www.thestar.com/news/investigations/article/822961--uninsured-drivers-get-free-ride



This is from back in 2010, and still looks like they don't have anything to verify........
(15 Civil Servants have been working on it since 2004)
Thats 8 years............. And you know that there getting $100,000 pay checks too. So thats only what......... at least $12,000,000 paid out to people for NOTHING???????

I'd love to be able to get a group of people together and go through all the government waste, and fire 90% of them! The amount that is wasted on "studys", etc, and the bill is paid by TAX PAYERS, is stupid!




They won't give an estimate anymore, but they will say this: there are nearly 14 million roadworthy private passenger vehicles (cars, pickup trucks, vans, SUVs, dune buggies and motor homes) registered in the ministry's database. Roughly 6.5 million of them have insurance. The rest do not and it is unclear how many of the cars without insurance are on the road.


REALLY!!!!!!!??????

WTF!!!

So over half the drivers in ontario, don't have insurance? NICE!!!
If anyone ever, and I mean ever injured me, or my family, and didn't have insurance, they had better have some money put aside for a 6 foot hole in the ground. Just sayin'.

I suspect this also includes the people who list their vehicle under their parent's name in the policy as the primary while they're really not?

 

[油井緋色]

I suspect this also includes the people who list their vehicle under their parent's name in the policy as the primary while they're really not?

That isn't how insurance works.

Insurance for vehicles goes by the VEHICLE, not the individual. The exception is household members. In other words, if a vehicle is insured, it is insured. The statement above is referring to registered vehicles without any insurance...period.

Honestly, that exception probably wouldn't exist if people stopped crashing so much.

 

[fastar1]

Good article with a Q & A on the topic;

http://spectrum.ieee.org/podcast/ge...ense-plates-cameras-and-our-vanishing-privacy

"Well, potentially there’s not a whole lot wrong with that. If a policeman is using this system because they’ve identified that there is a crime being committed, and they’re using this as a way of enforcing a law that they’ve already determined has been broken, I think that’s fine. The question is really the broader topic that was brought out in your introduction, that there are many cameras that are set up all over the country that are photographing traffic. And the question then is, where is that data being sent? Who is analyzing it? And what is being done with it?"

"Because every technological system, every tracking system, has false alarm rates. There’s false positives and there’s false negatives, and those are inherent to any system, and there’s not a lot of rigorous analysis being done on these systems to determine what are those false alarm rates. And so it is possible that you have this illusion of perfect tracking, but in fact you’re not tracking the right person."

"And that’s an even bigger concern, because in countries like the United States, we have a Bill of Rights. We have laws that regulate governmental behavior that’s different from the laws that regulate corporate behavior, and the corporate law hasn’t necessarily caught up with these notions of privacy and sharing data and aggregating data."