Oh they do. That's why most police agencies are switching away from HD bikes to Euro tourers
New Ford Police Interceptors
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Oh they do. That's why most police agencies are switching away from HD bikes to Euro tourers
RedDogDarren
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A 365 hp car is not going to be on the same planet as a 600 sportbike as far as performance. They will however be close enough that when you panic and slow down or wipe out trying to corner that they will run you over. If you suggest running at any rate.
Bone up on those track days!
Bone up on those track days!
Cities have analysis of anticipated cost and maintenence for dept budgeting and total cost is historically tracked so when replacement time comes around previous issues arent repeated.
It may look like some guys sitting around say "hey lets buy some of those!" , but competing for market share of fleet sales make manufacturers try hard and procurement people pay attention.
Peel has one now, it is full turbo engine 365+ hp and it is the Tauras SHO model.
I can say this car is @$@(# fast.
I can say this car is @$@(# fast.
Because if they overspend their budgets, they're routine theft of your money will be more likely to get noticed.
You are probably right.
I don't have evidence to support this but I heard that a sergeant or staff sergeant is notified when a scout car/ cruiser goes over 140 kilometers per hour which probably equals an arse tonne of paperwork for the officer. I heard this after the Peel officer died at Derry and Airport last year.
Anyone else heard this?
I don't have evidence to support this but I heard that a sergeant or staff sergeant is notified when a scout car/ cruiser goes over 140 kilometers per hour which probably equals an arse tonne of paperwork for the officer. I heard this after the Peel officer died at Derry and Airport last year.
Anyone else heard this?
It doesn't really matter how fast the cop car CAN go, they probably wont be chasing you over 200km/h anyways city or highway.
They just need to accelerate fast enough to get your plate
Exactly what I was thinking.
If Ford were to sell a turbocharged car to law enforcement and it didn't work out (through their own fault, or because they were misused - turned off after spooling the hell out of the turbos, idled for 2 hrs straight, ...), I bet GM or Chrysler's getting the next contract.
Granted, it depends on the city, the honesty of the sales pitch, and the people making the procurement decision. Because, like, totally, all of my city's procurement decisions have been slam dunks :lmao:
That's why you make it not easy to see. A few plate not visible tickets are worth it in the long runThey just need to accelerate fast enough to get your plate
-Jamie M.
09SV650S
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Why is everyone worried about turbos and idle time? Ever seen a cruiser stand still? If so what's it doing.....idling!
Oh and what's a turbo timer worth these days? Couple hundred? Prob worth the investment.
Not all police interceptors will be the turbo'd models mostly traffic division units and under covers will be. Regular patrol will be no turbo'd for obvious reasons.
Oh and despite the reviews the officers for the most dislike them. They are smaller then the Vic and with a duty belt on they are not easy to get in/out of.
As a tax payer I'm confident some testing and cost analysis has been done before all these orders went in lol
Also if a cruiser is close enough to see you chances are you're already screwed. Oh and the more you customize your bike the easier you make it for the traffic specialist to pick your bike out.
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Oh and what's a turbo timer worth these days? Couple hundred? Prob worth the investment.
Not all police interceptors will be the turbo'd models mostly traffic division units and under covers will be. Regular patrol will be no turbo'd for obvious reasons.
Oh and despite the reviews the officers for the most dislike them. They are smaller then the Vic and with a duty belt on they are not easy to get in/out of.
As a tax payer I'm confident some testing and cost analysis has been done before all these orders went in lol
Also if a cruiser is close enough to see you chances are you're already screwed. Oh and the more you customize your bike the easier you make it for the traffic specialist to pick your bike out.
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No need to worry.... its a newer design Ford. We won't see many of them. They'll spend more time in the shop than on the road.
They'll be begging Ford to bring back the CrownVic
Personally I don't see any valid reason that traffic enforcement should be running around with unmarked cars.
I believe it goes against everything that they should be working towards.
The idea behind traffic enforcement is that they should be visible and identifiable, so that we are reminded of our duty to drive within the law when we see them and check our behavior accordingly. We should also have no trouble identifying them when they attempt to pull us over.
There are too many incidents of road raging people impersonating a police officer these days. Personally I've come across two in the past few years, when I didn't cow-toe to their demands to wave me over they took off. (Real police don't take off when you give them the finger.)
Running around in unmarked cars causes nothing but confusion, and IMO amounts to a lowering of the general integrity level of the police.
It is akin to skulking around in the shadows like thieves.
I believe it goes against everything that they should be working towards.
The idea behind traffic enforcement is that they should be visible and identifiable, so that we are reminded of our duty to drive within the law when we see them and check our behavior accordingly. We should also have no trouble identifying them when they attempt to pull us over.
There are too many incidents of road raging people impersonating a police officer these days. Personally I've come across two in the past few years, when I didn't cow-toe to their demands to wave me over they took off. (Real police don't take off when you give them the finger.)
Running around in unmarked cars causes nothing but confusion, and IMO amounts to a lowering of the general integrity level of the police.
It is akin to skulking around in the shadows like thieves.
If this motor is shared with the Ecoboost F150, and tuned the same, a 365 hp car with 420 ft lbs of torque down low in the rev range, and AWD will be an absolute monster.
I would be willing to bet this car, well driven, would put the fear of god into most 600cc sportbike riders. CArs can take city corners, manhole covers, painted lines, gravel strewn roadways etc, all much faster than a sportbike ridden by a terrified rider.
This new Taurus platform makes me nervous more from a strength standpoint. Cops drive thru fields, over curbs and traffic islands etc. A big RWD car with a live axle (like a truck) is much more accepting of that kind of abuse than a 4 wheel independent suspension car with CV axles at all 4 corners etc.
I would be willing to bet this car, well driven, would put the fear of god into most 600cc sportbike riders. CArs can take city corners, manhole covers, painted lines, gravel strewn roadways etc, all much faster than a sportbike ridden by a terrified rider.
This new Taurus platform makes me nervous more from a strength standpoint. Cops drive thru fields, over curbs and traffic islands etc. A big RWD car with a live axle (like a truck) is much more accepting of that kind of abuse than a 4 wheel independent suspension car with CV axles at all 4 corners etc.
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09SV650S
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Does it sound like a joke to you?
I'm dead serious about everything I said there.
Chief's, executive/administrative staff and possibly detectives that require the use of a police car MAY be considered valid to use an unmarked car.
Other than that there is no reason that a police officer that wears a uniform and deals with the public should be driving anything other than a fully marked car.
I'm dead serious about everything I said there.
Chief's, executive/administrative staff and possibly detectives that require the use of a police car MAY be considered valid to use an unmarked car.
Other than that there is no reason that a police officer that wears a uniform and deals with the public should be driving anything other than a fully marked car.
I think it's much closer to performance than a Crown Vic, per se.
Still, it's going to be loaded down with extras and it will have a light bar on the roof. I think most supersports could outrun it and pull away at speed. You're completely right that 'real life' stuff like gravel, potholes, traffic, etc. would bridge that gap, or really test the skill of a rider in order to get away.
It's kind of a different feeling to know the cops might have a comparable/faster car vs. my VFR. Not that I would ever run...
09SV650S
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So...come up with a good argument why they should be allowed to use unmarked cars for anything they want.
Trashing the GTAM membership isn't a valid debate on the topic.
Trashing the GTAM membership isn't a valid debate on the topic.
09SV650S
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1) Undercover or not we all should be driving accordingly.
2) there's enough marked cars to justify my tax dollars
3) if in doubt it's an impersonator. We all have cell phones. Call dispatch. They'll confirm.
4) there's no such law that states officers "vehicles" need to be visible all the time.
I could go on. But your ignorance isn't worth the rest of the debate.
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