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Anyone been through this disaster lately?

Anyone know if your car is deemed "not ready" 2 times if they still will allow a conditional pass?
 
Paul1000RR said:
Anyone been through this disaster lately?

Anyone know if your car is deemed "not ready" 2 times if they still will allow a conditional pass?
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I read an article on wheels that said if you get to non readies with 30km driven between them you can do the tailpipe test. I will be going through it soon, but I haven't yet.
 
After a couple shots, and never getting the sensors ready I was able to do a tail pipe test.

I refuse to get sensors ready in the future. For the GM test anyways, it's impossible to do without breaking the laws of HTA.
 
Tailpipe still exist? I thought its all obd2s now. So for them to use tailpipe you have to fail thenretake if yourcar isnt ready within 30 kms?
 
Under the changes announced Thursday, a conditional pass can be issued after two “not ready” tests, provided that:

-At least 24 hours have passed between tests.

-The vehicle has been driven at least 30 km between tests.

-The battery was not disconnected nor OBD codes cleared within the last 30 km.

-The number of “not ready” monitors hasn’t increased.

As a result, the total e-test cost is $52.50 ($35 test plus $17.50 retest).

Resale vehicles that have failed twice for “not ready” can pass a two-speed idle tailpipe test instead. However, not all Drive Clean facilities are equipped for such tests.

In that scenario, the total e-test cost is $87.50 ($35 OBD test, plus $17.50 retest, plus $35 two-speed idle test).

However, the changes do not apply to vehicles with the “check engine” light illuminated, which remains an automatic fail and must be investigated and corrected.

Source- http://www.wheels.ca/news/drive-clean-tweaks-test-process-after-driver-complaints/
 
Robp said:
Under the changes announced Thursday, a conditional pass can be issued after two “not ready” tests, provided that:

-At least 24 hours have passed between tests.

-The vehicle has been driven at least 30 km between tests.

-The battery was not disconnected nor OBD codes cleared within the last 30 km.

-The number of “not ready” monitors hasn’t increased.

As a result, the total e-test cost is $52.50 ($35 test plus $17.50 retest).

Resale vehicles that have failed twice for “not ready” can pass a two-speed idle tailpipe test instead. However, not all Drive Clean facilities are equipped for such tests.

In that scenario, the total e-test cost is $87.50 ($35 OBD test, plus $17.50 retest, plus $35 two-speed idle test).

However, the changes do not apply to vehicles with the “check engine” light illuminated, which remains an automatic fail and must be investigated and corrected.

Source- http://www.wheels.ca/news/drive-clean-tweaks-test-process-after-driver-complaints/
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In other words complete waste of money and time.
My car never failed before until this nonsense.
 
My avalanche shows the check engine light due to a evap sensor code...no effect on emissions...I guess I will still have to spend $500. Awesome, thanks mcguinty
 
If I get my Cobalt ECU flashed to remove the check engine code for "poor O2 sensor efficiency" (because of cold air intake I installed) would they be able to tell?!?!
 
I think the new test checks if all monitors are running. So turning it off will probably make you fail the test.
 
kellen said:
My avalanche shows the check engine light due to a evap sensor code...no effect on emissions...I guess I will still have to spend $500. Awesome, thanks mcguinty
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Its probably the fuel evap system. Either the lines are broken (rubber hoses) or maybe the canister needs replacing. Its a charcoal canister that captures gasoline vapor so it doesn't enter the atmosphere. I would look into used canister if it is broken.

I drove my car for 3 yrs without fixing my evap system
 
hpvchewy said:
If I get my Cobalt ECU flashed to remove the check engine code for "poor O2 sensor efficiency" (because of cold air intake I installed) would they be able to tell?!?!
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I have heard that it is possible to do it, but simply turning off the system check (so that it never runs the test sequence) is not going to cut it. The system check never runs so readiness never gets set.

Current system check may be something like: "If coolant temperature is above X and engine run time is longer than Y then if secondary O2 records zero for longer than Z then clear readiness monitor and goto fault code sequence, else countdown the timer for setting readiness; if countdown reaches zero then clear fault code and set readiness"

Replace that logic with "If engine run time is longer than Y then clear fault code and set readiness" ... Get my drift ... ? ? ?
 
True but you are allowed up to two systems to have "readiness not set" and still pass. I forget what the cutoff year is. Before x is two, after x is one.

Brian P said:
I have heard that it is possible to do it, but simply turning off the system check (so that it never runs the test sequence) is not going to cut it. The system check never runs so readiness never gets set.

Current system check may be something like: "If coolant temperature is above X and engine run time is longer than Y then if secondary O2 records zero for longer than Z then clear readiness monitor and goto fault code sequence, else countdown the timer for setting readiness; if countdown reaches zero then clear fault code and set readiness"

Replace that logic with "If engine run time is longer than Y then clear fault code and set readiness" ... Get my drift ... ? ? ?
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Gah... Time for me to do the etest for my Chevy HHR soon. Anyone planning to remember this when it is time to hit the polls again? Dollars to donuts the Liberals get in again. They are in a wasteland at the federal level but they do seem to be able to do no wrong at the Provincial level. They are a teflon party; no matter what they do nothing sticks to them...
 
Zoodles95 said:
Gah... Time for me to do the etest for my Chevy HHR soon. Anyone planning to remember this when it is time to hit the polls again? Dollars to donuts the Liberals get in again. They are in a wasteland at the federal level but they do seem to be able to do no wrong at the Provincial level. They are a teflon party; no matter what they do nothing sticks to them...
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As long as they have Mr. Creepy and his 1950's idea leading the Conservatives then you will continue on the same path.
He is running against two women. He failed to beat McGuinty with all of his screw ups. Women are a large block of voters now and Mr. Creepy is not appealing from step 2. Step one is people that blindly vote for a party.

The Conservative should find a talented woman to run and let's see what happens, as I think it would be interesting just to watch the debates. Mr. Creepy will come off looking like a "bully" and if he did get aggressive towards one of them (for reasons we the viewers may not know the back story) he will be done.

People need to get to know their local City Councillors and MPP's.
Host a meet and great party, invite 25+ people from your area, use the community center if you can.
Ask them tough questions e.g. why are you in politiics, tell us about your past, tell us about something bad that happened to you and how you handled it...set a few ground rules that they are not to repeat talking points or the last 5 minutes will be for that.

This way you can drill them and really see what they are made of. Also do not make it about "bring your issues".
You can make it about 3 major issues effecting the square that you live in. It's not a ***** fest or their personal advertising time.

Just a suggestion to get people involved and aware.
It's my observation people need to focus on the people representing the square you live in first.
 
This is what I find confusing. I watched an extended interview with "Mr. Creepy" on The Agenda with Steve Paikin. He seemed totally in control of his faculties. This happens all the time. I'll know more about a politician way before I ever here him/her speak. Like a character development. Then I see them interviewed or debating and they don't seem anything as described.
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